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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:14 am Parked next to a BASE 2 door JL this morning. Soft top, :manuel: everything, including trans. Dude had it on 33's and these no-frills black aluminum wheels. Looked awesome.
The steel wheels are really :notbad: looking. The irony of it all while most are loading up a good portion of the jeeps with options a base 2 door JL can be had for 23-25k after discounts. Which is not worlds apart from a clean 20 year old 50-60k mile TJ for 15-8k, or tju which go for 18-25. Yet the JL is better in every way shape and form. I don’t understand the Jeep 2nd Hand market
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:24 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:14 am Parked next to a BASE 2 door JL this morning. Soft top, :manuel: everything, including trans. Dude had it on 33's and these no-frills black aluminum wheels. Looked awesome.
The steel wheels are really :notbad: looking. The irony of it all while most are loading up a good portion of the jeeps with options a base 2 door JL can be had for 23-25k after discounts. Which is not worlds apart from a clean 20 year old 50-60k mile TJ for 15-8k, or tju which go for 18-25. Yet the JL is better in every way shape and form. I don’t understand the Jeep 2nd Hand market
I spent some time looking at it because I hadn't seen one before...it was legit :notbad: Interior looked nice for being base, small infotainment screen but :whocares: in a :jeep: It had really nice ground clearance with the larger tires, and it didn't appear to have a lift (not sure it's needed for 33's).

Why anyone would buy a TJ or JK for a similar price is beyond me. I was/am really intrigued.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:27 am
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The steel wheels are really :notbad: looking. The irony of it all while most are loading up a good portion of the jeeps with options a base 2 door JL can be had for 23-25k after discounts. Which is not worlds apart from a clean 20 year old 50-60k mile TJ for 15-8k, or tju which go for 18-25. Yet the JL is better in every way shape and form. I don’t understand the Jeep 2nd Hand market
I spent some time looking at it because I hadn't seen one before...it was legit :notbad: Interior looked nice for being base, small infotainment screen but :whocares: in a :jeep: It had really nice ground clearance with the larger tires, and it didn't appear to have a lift (not sure it's needed for 33's).

Why anyone would buy a TJ or JK for a similar price is beyond me. I was/am really intrigued.
We got an all base advertised for 23,999 :manuel: everything
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:29 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:27 am
I spent some time looking at it because I hadn't seen one before...it was legit :notbad: Interior looked nice for being base, small infotainment screen but :whocares: in a :jeep: It had really nice ground clearance with the larger tires, and it didn't appear to have a lift (not sure it's needed for 33's).

Why anyone would buy a TJ or JK for a similar price is beyond me. I was/am really intrigued.
We got an all base advertised for 23,999 :manuel: everything
Does it have AC?

For a toy, that's pretty compelling.
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You can throw a set of rubicunt take off wheels for $1000 on it, nice lights for $400 and maybe a stereo upgrade for $500 and you’re set. You can also get take off rubicon sliders for $100 it’ll look like a rubicon ... for the price of a modded tj
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:32 am
max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:29 am
We got an all base advertised for 23,999 :manuel: everything
Does it have AC?

For a toy, that's pretty compelling.
I was trying to find that out 30,060 msrp it may not. But 4 doors come with ac standard. 33k msrp we got 4 of em listed for 27,5k
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:32 am You can throw a set of rubicunt take off wheels for $1000 on it, nice lights for $400 and maybe a stereo upgrade for $500 and you’re set. You can also get take off rubicon sliders for $100 it’ll look like a rubicon ... for the price of a modded tj
Would be awesome.
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:33 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:32 am
Does it have AC?

For a toy, that's pretty compelling.
I was trying to find that out 30,060 msrp it may not. But 4 doors come with ac standard. 33k msrp we got 4 of em listed for 27,5k
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Sting gray is my fav color too. :triggered:
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:24 am

The steel wheels are really :notbad: looking. The irony of it all while most are loading up a good portion of the jeeps with options a base 2 door JL can be had for 23-25k after discounts. Which is not worlds apart from a clean 20 year old 50-60k mile TJ for 15-8k, or tju which go for 18-25. Yet the JL is better in every way shape and form. I don’t understand the Jeep 2nd Hand market
:dat:

Looks badass on steelies with a lift.

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I'd totally just do a JL Sport S. For my use, it'd be perfect, and you can get the cloth seats with heat.
Woa! :megusta:

Bro I parked next to replaced the wheels with black aluminum "Moto Metal" wheels. Oddly, they weren't blinged out at all, looked like steelies at first glance.

:butwhy: those steelies look great. Agreed, a Sport S would be pretty ideal.
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Ideally would find one with an LSD :doe:
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Every jeep needs
35"+tires
2.5"+lift
new wheels obviously... with fake beadlocks because real ones are too much money
light bar +off road lights
recovery gear for the mall
CB radio
roof rack with various shit stached there
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:46 pm Every jeep needs
35"+tires
2.5"+lift
new wheels obviously... with fake beadlocks because real ones are too much money
light bar +off road lights
recovery gear for the mall
CB radio
roof rack with various shit stached there
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Just discovered you can get a base Gladiator with 4.10's if you equip the max tow pack.

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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:46 pm Every jeep needs
35"+tires
flat fenders
upgraded lights
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:44 pm Ideally would find one with an LSD :doe:
This.

Any word on what kind of LSD is in the JL? Clutch type?
Haven't heard.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:54 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:44 pm Ideally would find one with an LSD :doe:
This.

Any word on what kind of LSD is in the JL? Clutch type?
"Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle" assuming some sort of clutch type. How well it works remains to be seen. Rubi has open diffs with E lockers.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:47 pm Just discovered you can get a base Gladiator with 4.10's if you equip the max tow pack.

:notbad:
That's the only way you get to the 7500 towing and payload. Everything else is less. Rubi is 6500 IIRC. It was a spec specifically designed for marketing purposes, as I am sure the take rate will be >5% on this thing
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:18 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:47 pm Just discovered you can get a base Gladiator with 4.10's if you equip the max tow pack.

:notbad:
That's the only way you get to the 7500 towing and payload. Everything else is less. Rubi is 6500 IIRC. It was a spec specifically designed for marketing purposes, as I am sure the take rate will be >5% on this thing
Once people figure out that it's a way to get 4.10s in a lower trim truck, it'll sell ok. I'd buy one with the pack just for the 4.10s.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:21 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:18 pm

That's the only way you get to the 7500 towing and payload. Everything else is less. Rubi is 6500 IIRC. It was a spec specifically designed for marketing purposes, as I am sure the take rate will be >5% on this thing
Once people figure out that it's a way to get 4.10s in a lower trim truck, it'll sell ok. I'd buy one with the pack just for the 4.10s.
:butwhy: the base gladiator is 3.73s. Not like it really needs those gears with an 8 speed auto.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:47 pm Just discovered you can get a base Gladiator with 4.10's if you equip the max tow pack.

:notbad:
:ohmy: this is news.

for a $55k thing I cant afford to buy.
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max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:27 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:21 pm
Once people figure out that it's a way to get 4.10s in a lower trim truck, it'll sell ok. I'd buy one with the pack just for the 4.10s.
:butwhy: the base gladiator is 3.73s. Not like it really needs those gears with an 8 speed auto.
Wheeling bro. Combined with 4lo, 4.10's make a nice crawl ratio.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:39 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:27 pm

:butwhy: the base gladiator is 3.73s. Not like it really needs those gears with an 8 speed auto.
Wheeling bro. Combined with 4lo, 4.10's make a nice crawl ratio.
If you wanted to "wheel" a 30" shorter and 500lbs lighter JL seems like the way to go. The Gladiator is YUGE and terribly underpowered.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:21 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:18 pm

That's the only way you get to the 7500 towing and payload. Everything else is less. Rubi is 6500 IIRC. It was a spec specifically designed for marketing purposes, as I am sure the take rate will be >5% on this thing
Once people figure out that it's a way to get 4.10s in a lower trim truck, it'll sell ok. I'd buy one with the pack just for the 4.10s.
They throw in Molded-In-Color Fender Flares (2-Pc).

Is that painted or black?
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dubshow wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:37 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:47 pm Just discovered you can get a base Gladiator with 4.10's if you equip the max tow pack.

:notbad:
:ohmy: this is news.

for a $55k thing I cant afford to buy.
Doubt the Sport will be that expensive.
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