They have a new plant (well, new for Wrangler) so production is way higher than it's been before. I'm sure they have incentives piled on the old ones to help move them, so I'd expect YOY comparisons to be down next year.
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They may... but at this point they'll have the Scrambler.... and a full 500k unit capacity at the plant...
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Oh I didn't realize the plant was new as well. Yeah I'd wait a year or more for sure.
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I've heard that the Scrambler is only forecast for like 30k units annually or something.
But yea, that capacity is insane. I don't know how residuals will survive that much volume.
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It's not a "new" plant, just new for Wrangler. They moved Cherokee out of Toledo and replaced it with Wrangler there. It's actually where they're building the new one, the old one is still in the "old" plant. Pretty brilliant build-out plan, TBH.
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It's a new chassis to all the people and machines in that plant. Good idea overall for them, just means it's going to have little build quality issues until they get all the stuff sorted out and people familiar with building ox carts instead of modern vehicles.
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New JL is built where the cherokee used to be built. As of 3/31 they stopped making the JK and are now converting it to make the scrambler by october.
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So far the new one hasn't had anything catastrophic yet. Quality seems to be quite good. A few random issues on the forum but overall at all.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:17 pmIt's a new chassis to all the people and machines in that plant. Good idea overall for them, just means it's going to have little build quality issues until they get all the stuff sorted out and people familiar with building ox carts instead of modern vehicles.
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That's really good to hear. FCA needs a home run with this vehicle.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:20 pmSo far the new one hasn't had anything catastrophic yet. Quality seems to be quite good. A few random issues on the forum but overall at all.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:17 pm
It's a new chassis to all the people and machines in that plant. Good idea overall for them, just means it's going to have little build quality issues until they get all the stuff sorted out and people familiar with building ox carts instead of modern vehicles.
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It shouldn't be that complex, TBH. The electrical bits are the most concerning, but I feel like they had to have figured those out well in advance of production. Nothing is unique on it.
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when you look at the vehicles side by side etc... it seems REALLY similar to the old one. Even hard to tell em apart. A lot fo the "electronics" are straight up partsbin. The dash/jewconnect etc are all shared with other FCA vehicles with just some graphics.
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Last time that happened I saw a sport with a 8.4 Jewconnect + various other sahara bits, a combo you couldn't get period.
I'd wait to see the final units hit the damn that two door roll out is taking forever... they started building the JLU in NOVEMBER
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I really want to like the JLU. Priced some out on website:
Sport S poverty model - $41,550
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 7"
-Alpine stereo
Rubicon - $47,555
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 8" with nav (was only $300 more than base poverty radio as an infotainment package?)
-Alpine stereo
Man these things are stupid expensive anymore
Neither of these +$40k vehicles have seat heaters or acceptable headlights either.
Sport S poverty model - $41,550
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 7"
-Alpine stereo
Rubicon - $47,555
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 8" with nav (was only $300 more than base poverty radio as an infotainment package?)
-Alpine stereo
Man these things are stupid expensive anymore
Neither of these +$40k vehicles have seat heaters or acceptable headlights either.
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Rubi doesn't come with LEDs?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:27 pm I really want to like the JLU. Priced some out on website:
Sport S poverty model - $41,550
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 7"
-Alpine stereo
Rubicon - $47,555
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 8" with nav (was only $300 more than base poverty radio as an infotainment package?)
-Alpine stereo
Man these things are stupid expensive anymore
Neither of these +$40k vehicles have seat heaters or acceptable headlights either.
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$900 extraApex wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:29 pmRubi doesn't come with LEDs?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:27 pm I really want to like the JLU. Priced some out on website:
Sport S poverty model - $41,550
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 7"
-Alpine stereo
Rubicon - $47,555
-Automatic
-Hard top with headliner
-Uconnect 8" with nav (was only $300 more than base poverty radio as an infotainment package?)
-Alpine stereo
Man these things are stupid expensive anymore
Neither of these +$40k vehicles have seat heaters or acceptable headlights either.
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It's insane how expensive Wranglers got...and continue to sell for. Won't last,
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They MSRP creep every year.
A 2018 JK just like my 2015 was $3400 more expensive with no actual updates, just model year increments. This kept my value up. I only "lost" about $6k in in depreciation in 3 years and just under 30k miles.
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That is lack of depreciation.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:48 pmThey MSRP creep every year.
A 2018 JK just like my 2015 was $3400 more expensive with no actual updates, just model year increments. This kept my value up. I only "lost" about $6k in in depreciation in 3 years and just under 30k miles.
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Filled up last Sunday. Used a quarter of a tank commuting back and forth to work last week and dinking around town a bit. Wound up driving up to Lancaster yesterday to see my mom. That, plus driving around in town up here used the rest of the tank. Just filled up and calculated 19mpg for that tank probably got a good 20mpg on the freeway up here yesterday doing 70 for the most part with a little traffic where there was some construction on the 5.