Obligatory C5 Thread

[troyguitar]

My tires are on their last leg. They're sliding around a lot more. Good news is that it's controllable like a wicked drift. Bad news is that it just ain't gripping.
I'm on the fence about slicks for a season. Price is high, and they wear quicker. Right now I'm more inclined to drop my money into the Lemons car and the Meowta but I'm really debating hard on some Hoosiers

Used hoosiers.

[Acid666]

My tires are on their last leg. They're sliding around a lot more. Good news is that it's controllable like a wicked drift. Bad news is that it just ain't gripping.
I'm on the fence about slicks for a season. Price is high, and they wear quicker. Right now I'm more inclined to drop my money into the Lemons car and the Meowta but I'm really debating hard on some Hoosiers

I'm actually cosidering jumping over to autox in 2021. Trackdaybro is fun as hell but I kind of want to compete in something and club racing is a rich man's game.

My 30,000 foot view of tracking is
1) I'm weary of putting the C5 on the track due to A) the wear and tear (because I'll want to do it a lot), and B) the costs to run.
2) Our Lemons car might be our way of getting more track time in a dedicated car that we don't really worry so much about.
We have 2 engines, one black top and one silvertop. The black is a hot rodded motor, silver is just a more powerful stock setup. For Lemons we will likely run the Silvertop, and then for the rest of the year we think we'll run the hot rod black top and autocross it and do some TNIA and other stuff for fun. It'll be cool to build one from the ground up and we can get our seat time in that way. That's kind of the plan on paper for now. The C5, I love, but I kinda get Alan's vibe of driving something else for my kicks for a bit.

[D Griff]

I'm actually cosidering jumping over to autox in 2021. Trackdaybro is fun as hell but I kind of want to compete in something and club racing is a rich man's game.

My 30,000 foot view of tracking is
1) I'm weary of putting the C5 on the track due to A) the wear and tear (because I'll want to do it a lot), and B) the costs to run.
2) Our Lemons car might be our way of getting more track time in a dedicated car that we don't really worry so much about.
We have 2 engines, one black top and one silvertop. The black is a hot rodded motor, silver is just a more powerful stock setup. For Lemons we will likely run the Silvertop, and then for the rest of the year we think we'll run the hot rod black top and autocross it and do some TNIA and other stuff for fun. It'll be cool to build one from the ground up and we can get our seat time in that way. That's kind of the plan on paper for now. The C5, I love, but I kinda get Alan's vibe of driving something else for my kicks for a bit.

I think your plan is pretty awesome. I'd love to do Lemons but I don't think I have the wrenching abilities and dedication you do to make it happen.

If you are ever offing the C5 though, at least do a few TNIA before walking away, it is really great in that environment and TNIA is easy and fun. At my level with the 17" tarz, the consumables arenot THAT awful.

200TW street tires last 10ish events + street driving.
DustTech pads last 5ish events plus street driving.
Rotors... jury is out on this one, I've just gotten some free replacements from Advance

Most things are proving to be pretty darn durable, but it does add up for sure.

[Acid666]

My 30,000 foot view of tracking is
1) I'm weary of putting the C5 on the track due to A) the wear and tear (because I'll want to do it a lot), and B) the costs to run.
2) Our Lemons car might be our way of getting more track time in a dedicated car that we don't really worry so much about.
We have 2 engines, one black top and one silvertop. The black is a hot rodded motor, silver is just a more powerful stock setup. For Lemons we will likely run the Silvertop, and then for the rest of the year we think we'll run the hot rod black top and autocross it and do some TNIA and other stuff for fun. It'll be cool to build one from the ground up and we can get our seat time in that way. That's kind of the plan on paper for now. The C5, I love, but I kinda get Alan's vibe of driving something else for my kicks for a bit.

I think your plan is pretty awesome. I'd love to do Lemons but I don't think I have the wrenching abilities and dedication you do to make it happen.

If you are ever offing the C5 though, at least do a few TNIA before walking away, it is really great in that environment and TNIA is easy and fun. At my level with the 17" tarz, the consumables arenot THAT awful.

200TW street tires last 10ish events + street driving.
DustTech pads last 5ish events plus street driving.
Rotors... jury is out on this one, I've just gotten some free replacements from Advance

Most things are proving to be pretty darn durable, but it does add up for sure.

Oh I intend on doing it at least once in the C5, I'm just not in a rush to do it.
If you're interested in my tire life numbers for autocross, you can check my chart. I got 158 runs out of the smaller RE-71Rs, and I'm nearing 130 on the 315 Rivals but they lost their competitive edge about 20 runs ago. They just don't bite like they should. (I did rotate them every 2 months or so)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

[Purpc5z]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

[goIftdibrad]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

[user not found] sold a car, bought another car. sold a jeep bought a jeep.

I got a Miata

coogles is still in denial he needs a

gberg went and traded his unfixable for another newer

[Apex]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

[user not found] sold a car, bought another car. sold a jeep bought a jeep.

I got a Miata

coogles is still in denial he needs a

gberg went and traded his unfixable for another newer

[coogles]

[user not found] sold a car, bought another car. sold a jeep bought a jeep.

I got a Miata

coogles is still in denial he needs a

gberg went and traded his unfixable for another newer

[Purpc5z]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

[user not found] sold a car, bought another car. sold a jeep bought a jeep.

I got a Miata

coogles is still in denial he needs a

gberg went and traded his unfixable for another newer

so, more of the usual then.. Noice

[Apex]

[wap]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

[CaleDeRoo]

Someone help me drop it in?

[D Griff]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

In C5 land I am doing a refresh of my

New tie rods, ball joints, DRM Bilsteins, grounds, power steering cooler, fluids, some gaskets, rebuilding calipers, etc.

Nothing too exciting but it should be greatly improved chassis-wise when I'm finally done. The damn ball joints can fucking blow me.

[Purpc5z]

henlo frenz. Im bck for good now. Did I miss anything good?

In C5 land I am doing a refresh of my

New tie rods, ball joints, DRM Bilsteins, grounds, power steering cooler, fluids, some gaskets, rebuilding calipers, etc.

Nothing too exciting but it should be greatly improved chassis-wise when I'm finally done. The damn ball joints can fucking blow me.

what tie rods are you going to use? I have to do the same thing to my in the next week or so.

[D Griff]

In C5 land I am doing a refresh of my

New tie rods, ball joints, DRM Bilsteins, grounds, power steering cooler, fluids, some gaskets, rebuilding calipers, etc.

Nothing too exciting but it should be greatly improved chassis-wise when I'm finally done. The damn ball joints can fucking blow me.

what tie rods are you going to use? I have to do the same thing to my in the next week or so.

I bought the Moog shit, kind of pricey but most of it is US made and high quality. It came recommended from other track day folks.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

what tie rods are you going to use? I have to do the same thing to my in the next week or so.

I bought the Moog shit, kind of pricey but most of it is US made and high quality. It came recommended from other track day folks.

I had Moog outer tie rods on the front of mine, they are indeed good quality parts.

Caliper rebuild is a good idea too. Pretty easy, and it improved the braking performance a tad on mine. SS lines of you haven't done them yet either.

[CaleDeRoo]

P0103 maf code popped up leaving work today. The car jerked like the tcs slammed the brakes then the CEL came on. Rained heavy all morning and my AFE intake puts the maf right below the hood/bumper gap

[Purpc5z]

has anyone done the "batwing" lower oil pan? I'm going to do one in the next few weeks. I need to know if I have to actually lift the engine and/ or drop the front cross-member.

Of course, the CF is filled with mixed answers.

[Acid666]

has anyone done the "batwing" lower oil pan? I'm going to do one in the next few weeks. I need to know if I have to actually lift the engine and/ or drop the front cross-member.

Of course, the CF is filled with mixed answers.

I thought all the C5s had the batwing pan? I just thought it described it since it flares out to the sides.
I had to cut the corner of mine to get the headers in.

[Purpc5z]

has anyone done the "batwing" lower oil pan? I'm going to do one in the next few weeks. I need to know if I have to actually lift the engine and/ or drop the front cross-member.

Of course, the CF is filled with mixed answers.

I thought all the C5s had the batwing pan? I just thought it described it since it flares out to the sides.
I had to cut the corner of mine to get the headers in.

they do! I just need to confirm if I have to do a whole lotta work or can just snag a few bolts off and swip swap a new gasket on.

Also, what headers do you run? I've yet to hear of any C5z guys cutting their oil pans for this

[Acid666]

I thought all the C5s had the batwing pan? I just thought it described it since it flares out to the sides.
I had to cut the corner of mine to get the headers in.

they do! I just need to confirm if I have to do a whole lotta work or can just snag a few bolts off and swip swap a new gasket on.

Also, what headers do you run? I've yet to hear of any C5z guys cutting their oil pans for this

I have the XS Power headers. There's plenty of people that have had to cut theirs, but it's not like a massive chunk of metal or anything. They (like me) only have to cut a small 1/4" or so notch out of the outmost corner just to get the headers to clear for lifting them into place. A simple dremel cut in there is all you need.
It depends on the brand tho since they're all shaped a little bit differently.

[Purpc5z]

they do! I just need to confirm if I have to do a whole lotta work or can just snag a few bolts off and swip swap a new gasket on.

Also, what headers do you run? I've yet to hear of any C5z guys cutting their oil pans for this

I have the XS Power headers. There's plenty of people that have had to cut theirs, but it's not like a massive chunk of metal or anything. They (like me) only have to cut a small 1/4" or so notch out of the outmost corner just to get the headers to clear for lifting them into place. A simple dremel cut in there is all you need.
It depends on the brand tho since they're all shaped a little bit differently.

Gotcha! Hopefully, i don't have to do the same. I just got a set of LG Motorsports headers for basically free.99

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Wait...what's wrong with the oil pan? Oil leaks are very rarely the oil pan. Mine appeared to leak, but it was a combination of the front main seal, rear main seal, and oil pressure sensor. Those leaked down the oil pan and made it look like it was leaking when it wasn't.

If you insist in doing the oil pan gasket, the engine has to come out, or the subframe has to be dropped to get to the upper bolts. Dropping the subframe isn't a big deal, but I'd be looking at other sources of oil leaks first. Would suck to go through the effort of changing the gasket and it still leaks.

[Purpc5z]

Wait...what's wrong with the oil pan? Oil leaks are very rarely the oil pan. Mine appeared to leak, but it was a combination of the front main seal, rear main seal, and oil pressure sensor. Those leaked down the oil pan and made it look like it was leaking when it wasn't.

If you insist in doing the oil pan gasket, the engine has to come out, or the subframe has to be dropped to get to the upper bolts. Dropping the subframe isn't a big deal, but I'd be looking at other sources of oil leaks first. Would suck to go through the effort of changing the gasket and it still leaks.

The batwing oil pan looks pretty accessible. Have you had to replace it as well?
I've had the car up in the air a couple times, and every time I see oil coming from what looks like the lower "batwing" oil pan.

Video for reference.
https://i.imgur.com/uLznpjn.mp4

At this point, I had already sprayed the pan down to get all the oil off. There was also a solid drip coming from the oil filter housing.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Wait...what's wrong with the oil pan? Oil leaks are very rarely the oil pan. Mine appeared to leak, but it was a combination of the front main seal, rear main seal, and oil pressure sensor. Those leaked down the oil pan and made it look like it was leaking when it wasn't.

If you insist in doing the oil pan gasket, the engine has to come out, or the subframe has to be dropped to get to the upper bolts. Dropping the subframe isn't a big deal, but I'd be looking at other sources of oil leaks first. Would suck to go through the effort of changing the gasket and it still leaks.

The batwing oil pan looks pretty accessible. Have you had to replace it as well?
I've had the car up in the air a couple times, and every time I see oil coming from what looks like the lower "batwing" oil pan.

Video for reference.
https://i.imgur.com/uLznpjn.mp4

At this point, I had already sprayed the pan down to get all the oil off. There was also a solid drip coming from the oil filter housing.

I did not replace the oil pan...no need. But I have separated the drivetrain from the body...trust me...the oil pan is not an easy job, unless you're just talking about the lower pan...which isn't your problem.

That looks to me like your oil pressure sensor is leaking. It's on that side of the engine, and when it leaks it trickles down the back/driver side of the block and collects on the bat wing and oil filter...which makes it look like the oil pan. Have you done the oil pressure sensor yet? If not, it might be worth taking the intake manifold off to get a good look at it and check for leaks. That's WAY easier than dropping the subframe and far more common. I've never heard of a C5 oil pan or gasket failing without impact or something.