Obligatory C5 Thread

[Desertbreh]

LOL guise. I understand that I'm not dialing in my next Auto-X win. Just looking for a little less roll in front.

Troy, I gather you think the adjustability and fancy endlinks are pointless? Because that's what you're paying for other than the fancy color and marketing.

It's not pointless, but the main benefit is the ability to adjust handling balance for different surfaces i.e. soften the rear bar when it's cold or raining. If you only drive the car when it's warm and dry, there's no real need to adjust anything.

So you had JOC's on Barney said fuck it and went ZR1? What bar did you use on the rear?

[Desertbreh]

I know that brah. Only the rear is adjustable on JOC. If I'm going to make a change the adjustable allows room for error. But I would trust Troy's opinion. And yep it's waayyyy cheaper.
I had Hotchkiss adjustables on my GayTI and changed them around.

I understand that the Gayti was a heep of rusty swasticas melted together to form a shitbox. But the GS, is in another league, I can't imagine you approaching the limits on any type of driving that may be done on city streets where you need a bigger sway. Don't waste your money that weekend in Tijuana Wine Valley or what not sounds like a far better use of those funds that a yellow suppository.

I really enjoyed my GTI with Hotchkis bars/Bilstein B8s and DG springs. It was another world from stock, IMHO. Yes, I am not skilled enough to drive my car to its limits on the track or the street. I'm a little bored?
I'm kind of stuck here for the summer, my crotchfruit starts back to school on the 8th and I'm just looking for a simple wrenching project. I give my self a little financial room to do this because I don't switch cars every 8 months like the rest of you motherfuckers. And say what you want to say, the roll on the front of the C6 GS could be improved.

[troyguitar]

It's not pointless, but the main benefit is the ability to adjust handling balance for different surfaces i.e. soften the rear bar when it's cold or raining. If you only drive the car when it's warm and dry, there's no real need to adjust anything.

So you had JOC's on Barney said fuck it and went ZR1? What bar did you use on the rear?

I went back to a stock rear bar, the JOC rear bar was too big for my square tire setup.

The fast guys in stock-ish C6GS all run a yuuuge front bar, stock rear bar, and all of the camber all around. That adds roll resistance and grip all around but adds more front grip than rear, making it both flatter and more neutral.

They use a custom $300ish 35mm solid bar from Sam Strano, but the $120 ZR1 bar is close enough.

Being unbound by class rules, you could also add a C6Z06 front leaf spring to make it even better - but that's more money and a lot more work than swapping a sway bar and aligning the car.

[Desertbreh]

I've loved my DRM Bilsteins, non runflat PSS and a mild performance alignment. It's not like you can't improve things a bit.

[Desertbreh]

So you had JOC's on Barney said fuck it and went ZR1? What bar did you use on the rear?

I went back to a stock rear bar, the JOC rear bar was too big for my square tire setup.

The fast guys in stock-ish C6GS all run a yuuuge front bar, stock rear bar, and all of the camber all around. That adds roll resistance and grip all around but adds more front grip than rear, making it both flatter and more neutral.

They use a custom $300ish 35mm solid bar from Sam Strano, but the $120 ZR1 bar is close enough.

Being unbound by class rules, you could also add a C6Z06 front leaf spring to make it even better - but that's more money and a lot more work than swapping a sway bar and aligning the car.

Alright man, many thanks.

[troyguitar]

I've loved my DRM Bilsteins, non runflat PSS and a mild performance alignment. It's not like you can't improve things a bit.

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

[Desertbreh]

I've loved my DRM Bilsteins, non runflat PSS and a mild performance alignment. It's not like you can't improve things a bit.

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

Any quick interwebz direction to the front bar only? I see F/R for about $270.

[troyguitar]

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

Any quick interwebz direction to the front bar only? I see F/R for about $270.

Gotta look it up by the GM part number, should be one for the bar and one for the bushings (called insulators and sold individually IIRC). I'm not at a PC but it shouldn't be hard to find.

[CorvetteWaxer]

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

Any quick interwebz direction to the front bar only? I see F/R for about $270.

Looks like this one: 25796969

https://www.trunkmonkeyparts.com/oem-pa ... r-25796969
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-GM-O ... 2044896603


This one has the part numbers for the kit, including front, rear, and isolators: http://www.performancecorvettes.com/pro ... EM-GM.html

[Desertbreh]

Got it, thanks guys!

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I can still smoke nearly anything on Woodward with Troy's C5Z bars, so that's good enough.

[D Griff]

I went back to a stock rear bar, the JOC rear bar was too big for my square tire setup.

The fast guys in stock-ish C6GS all run a yuuuge front bar, stock rear bar, and all of the camber all around. That adds roll resistance and grip all around but adds more front grip than rear, making it both flatter and more neutral.

They use a custom $300ish 35mm solid bar from Sam Strano, but the $120 ZR1 bar is close enough.

Being unbound by class rules, you could also add a C6Z06 front leaf spring to make it even better - but that's more money and a lot more work than swapping a sway bar and aligning the car.

Alright man, many thanks.

Going to back play here, I have the same front bar (C6ZR1) and my car doesn't understeer at all. It efinitely did originally. I can keep up with all the on the Dragon in my cheaper than a Miata Corvette and it's pretty epic on the track.

Also, I'm in support of your modding. The few and the proud "old DFD" car drivers have to stick together.

[D Griff]

I've loved my DRM Bilsteins, non runflat PSS and a mild performance alignment. It's not like you can't improve things a bit.

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

is fun.

Would you do 17s all around? Are there any 17Xwide wheels available for cheap? It would be cool to just have 275 wide tars on 17s at all four corners.

[troyguitar]

Part of me really wants to grab an 02-04 C5 Z51, DRM Bilsteins, a ZR1 bar, and stay in stock class on 17" tarz NFG at 30 mpg instead of going with coilovers and tuning on the

is fun.

Would you do 17s all around? Are there any 17Xwide wheels available for cheap? It would be cool to just have 275 wide tars on 17s at all four corners.

OEM C5Z fronts 17x9.5 are very light, strong, and cheap since no one wants them. I ran them at all 4 corners on my old car and would run them again on a trackdaybro C5/C6 every time, probably with 275/40/17 Falken RT615K+ as a tire that's still quick and fun. The guy who bought mine was doing exactly that last I heard from him.

For stock class autox I'd run 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 with 255/40/17s, staggered wheels but the same tires all around so they could be rotated via re-mounting them.

[D Griff]

is fun.

Would you do 17s all around? Are there any 17Xwide wheels available for cheap? It would be cool to just have 275 wide tars on 17s at all four corners.

OEM C5Z fronts 17x9.5 are very light, strong, and cheap since no one wants them. I ran them at all 4 corners on my old car and would run them again on a trackdaybro C5/C6 every time, probably with 275/40/17 Falken RT615K+ as a tire that's still quick and fun. The guy who bought mine was doing exactly that last I heard from him.

For stock class autox I'd run 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 with 255/40/17s, staggered wheels but the same tires all around so they could be rotated via re-mounting them.

Was thinking the Z06 fronts might be the way to go, wasn't sure on the width and I am a lazy fuck about googling right now, long day at work. Thanks.

The rear 17s might look a little weird, but really. Better ride wouldn't suck either.

[max225]

Alright man, many thanks.

Going to back play here, I have the same front bar (C6ZR1) and my car doesn't understeer at all. It efinitely did originally. I can keep up with all the on the Dragon in my cheaper than a Miata Corvette and it's pretty epic on the track.

Also, I'm in support of your modding. The few and the proud "old DFD" car drivers have to stick together.

C6gs on 275 pss fronts and 325 rears <<<>>>> C5

Just trying to save the desert broham some cash money

[D Griff]

Going to back play here, I have the same front bar (C6ZR1) and my car doesn't understeer at all. It efinitely did originally. I can keep up with all the on the Dragon in my cheaper than a Miata Corvette and it's pretty epic on the track.

Also, I'm in support of your modding. The few and the proud "old DFD" car drivers have to stick together.

C6gs on 275 pss fronts and 325 rears <<<>>>> C5

Just trying to save the desert broham some cash money

Agreed, but I think he's good on the money front and just wants to dick around for fun. It's cheaper than

Even though grip is immense, cars are really set up to understeer, which isn't as fun. Talking out my ass though, never even been in a Corvette that isn't a C5.

[troyguitar]

My cars always seem to have "too much wheel gap"

Cool thing about running 255/40/17 instead of stock ? Significantly better effective gearing. 2nd gear on stock tires goes to 80 mph, on the small ones it is 75... and still only does 1700 rpm at 75 in 6th.

[troyguitar]

Going to back play here, I have the same front bar (C6ZR1) and my car doesn't understeer at all. It efinitely did originally. I can keep up with all the on the Dragon in my cheaper than a Miata Corvette and it's pretty epic on the track.

Also, I'm in support of your modding. The few and the proud "old DFD" car drivers have to stick together.

C6gs on 275 pss fronts and 325 rears <<<>>>> C5

Just trying to save the desert broham some cash money

The GS has a pretty soft front spring compared to the C6Z06 or Z51, swapping to a big front bar and/or stiffer front spring really does wake it up.

[Desertbreh]

C6gs on 275 pss fronts and 325 rears <<<>>>> C5

Just trying to save the desert broham some cash money

Agreed, but I think he's good on the money front and just wants to dick around for fun. It's cheaper than

Even though grip is immense, cars are really set up to understeer, which isn't as fun. Talking out my ass though, never even been in a Corvette that isn't a C5.

Yes. And not much money thanks to forum bros.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Maybe it's a sign of getting old, or being more of a poser or whatever, but I just can't make the car ugly. 17's on the rear look ridiculous to me (unless drag radials), and honestly the 17/18 staggered is pretty fine for ride. I'm also traction limited and can't imagine going less than 295's on the rear.

I lowered my car just enough so that there's even gap all the way around the tire. Not slammed, but it doesn't look like it's on it's toes either. Still rides fine.

[Melon]

What's all this "old" talk going on in here?

[D Griff]

Maybe it's a sign of getting old, or being more of a poser or whatever, but I just can't make the car ugly. 17's on the rear look ridiculous to me (unless drag radials), and honestly the 17/18 staggered is pretty fine for ride. I'm also traction limited and can't imagine going less than 295's on the rear.

I lowered my car just enough so that there's even gap all the way around the tire. Not slammed, but it doesn't look like it's on it's toes either. Still rides fine.

I think the looks agressive in the era of everything having rubber bands. I'm with you, don't think it makes you a poser to want to enjoy looking at the car, that's definitely part of it for most of us.

[Melon]

Put 15's on there.

#hardloglife

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Maybe it's a sign of getting old, or being more of a poser or whatever, but I just can't make the car ugly. 17's on the rear look ridiculous to me (unless drag radials), and honestly the 17/18 staggered is pretty fine for ride. I'm also traction limited and can't imagine going less than 295's on the rear.

I lowered my car just enough so that there's even gap all the way around the tire. Not slammed, but it doesn't look like it's on it's toes either. Still rides fine.

I think the looks agressive in the era of everything having rubber bands. I'm with you, don't think it makes you a poser to want to enjoy looking at the car, that's definitely part of it for most of us.

Oh, totally. I'd never run larger than an 18" on the car. The problem is, if you want to run 17's in the rear without it looking ridiculous, you need to find something like a 275/45 that doesn't exist. OR drag radials, which I'm still tempted to buy but they supposedly suck in turns.