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I'm frugal, so keeping it would be my first choice.
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Apex wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:46 pm I’d go Defender. They will do everything you need a truck/SUV for and you get the uprated badge. :like:
They also look cool af imo
Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am :notsure: if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.
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Apex wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:46 pm I’d go Defender. They will do everything you need a truck/SUV for and you get the uprated badge. :like:
They also look cool af imo
Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am :notsure: if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.
2.0 is the best option in our JLU, and Griff likes it in his as well. Idk what the weight/gearing differences are but you’d probably be fine with the 2.0. Worth looking into.
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Tarspin wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:07 pm I'm frugal, so keeping it would be my first choice.
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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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My Carvana offer has officially reached :fullretard: levels at $20,415; $415 more than I paid for it nearly 3 years and 18k miles ago. The timing is perfect since my wife is going back to the office part time in a few weeks. I don't much feel like playing the used market right now with as nutty as prices are, so I'm probably going to buy new. The question then is, do I really need a minivan or not? The two I'm deciding between are the Outback XT Touring and the Odyssey EX-L. The Outback is maybe the only non-SUVs that will fit 3 car seats, plus it will actually fit in our garage. The Odyssey would not (at least not with the Atlas), and I suppose we could always rent a Suburban or something if we really need a big road trip vehicle. We could always get a roof box for the Atlas as well. The price is about the same, but the Subaru dealer is actually still willing to sell the car for invoice ($39.8k from $42.6k), which in today's climate is insane to me, but I'd gladly take it. Honda dealer will come off MSRP a little bit, but not much, and the Odyssey is a little cheaper to begin with so the purchase price would be about the same.
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Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple :baby: but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
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Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 am Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple :baby: but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
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coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:20 am
Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 am Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple :baby: but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your :baby: s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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However :tits: tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other :tits: that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one" :pouroneout:
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Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am However :tits: tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other :tits: that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one" :pouroneout:
If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.
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wap wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 am
coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:20 am

Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your :baby: s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

Just my undoubtedly :wrong: opinions.
That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.
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coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 am
wap wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 am

Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your :baby: s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

Just my undoubtedly :wrong: opinions.
That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.
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coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 am
Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am However :tits: tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other :tits: that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one" :pouroneout:
If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.
They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
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Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am Fun chart
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am Fun chart
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Rising prices supported by increased incentive spending, neutral for OEMs...until now when demand went crazy and supply fell off a cliff. Wild times.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 pm
Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
:word:
Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:38 pm
coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 pm

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Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...
I believe both are, but I'd personally choose the Odyssey over either.
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No stellantic hybrid? :doge:
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FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
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Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe
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Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
We were clearly :wrong:, but we chose the Atlas over the Telluride.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Irish wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe
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max225 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:16 pm
Apex wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:46 pm I’d go Defender. They will do everything you need a truck/SUV for and you get the uprated badge. :like:
They also look cool af imo
Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am :notsure: if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.
Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.
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