2020 Supra-Why I think it is half assed.

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Is the 2020 half assed ?

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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm
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M2 comes close. It is far better packaged, far better quality inside and out, similar in performance. It does sound "worse" though since it is a lot less obnoxious.
It also depreciates more and I would suspect is nowhere near as fun to drive. Granted I've driven neither...
I don't see how a smaller nimbler car is "less fun" to drive? The mustangs are giant boats. Which is their biggest downfall. I am :notsure: about depreciation, they are both equal at this point in time. GT350s are high 40s used as are M2s.
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:iono: I like the BMW... but the fact that it is worse equipped than my buddy's poverty spec 2013 Ford Focus is pretty :wtf:
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm But c'mon, the Mustang has like 200 more horsepower and an awesome, once in a lifetime motor versus a run-of-the-mill Supra lump.
:wtf: the current M2 doesn't have a "supra" lump. It puts down 440whp. The mustang puts down 470, and the M2 has more torque while being far smaller and lighter.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:05 pm :iono: I like the BMW... but the fact that it is worse equipped than my buddy's poverty spec 2013 Ford Focus is pretty :wtf:
The 2019 M2 comes with everything standard. We're not comparing base(ish) models here. M cars are fully loaded with blue tooth, nice stereo, nav, etc standard.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:07 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm But c'mon, the Mustang has like 200 more horsepower and an awesome, once in a lifetime motor versus a run-of-the-mill Supra lump.
:wtf: the current M2 doesn't have a "supra" lump. It puts down 440whp. The mustang puts down 470, and the M2 has more torque while being far smaller and lighter.
The GT350 is over 500 hp, don't remember the exact number. M2 is a tuned Supra motor.

I mean, I actually like the M2 a lot, but the Mustang has got to be more interesting to drive. Different strokes I guess, drama free cars are boring to me, even if very capable. Where the hell is Johnny P to back me up on this?
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:08 pm
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:wtf: the current M2 doesn't have a "supra" lump. It puts down 440whp. The mustang puts down 470, and the M2 has more torque while being far smaller and lighter.
The GT350 is over 500 hp, don't remember the exact number. M2 is a tuned Supra motor.

I mean, I actually like the M2 a lot, but the Mustang has got to be more interesting to drive. Different strokes I guess, drama free cars are boring to me, even if very capable. Where the hell is Johnny P to back me up on this?
No it isn't The 16-18 M2 was a "tuned" supra motor the 19+ models have the M3 motor, with twin turbos etc. Drive an M car please they are far different from the run of the mill bmws. Same difference as comparing a GT350 to a V6 performance package mustang. They are leagues apart.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm But c'mon, the Mustang has like 200 more horsepower and an awesome, once in a lifetime motor versus a run-of-the-mill Supra lump.
There are more than a few reviews complaining the Voodoo consumes way too much oil. Much in the manner of BMW M V8s.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:07 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm But c'mon, the Mustang has like 200 more horsepower and an awesome, once in a lifetime motor versus a run-of-the-mill Supra lump.
:wtf: the current M2 doesn't have a "supra" lump. It puts down 440whp. The mustang puts down 470, and the M2 has more torque while being far smaller and lighter.
I'm with you Max. I would M2 b4 GT350.
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max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:44 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm But c'mon, the Mustang has like 200 more horsepower and an awesome, once in a lifetime motor versus a run-of-the-mill Supra lump.
There are more than a few reviews complaining the Voodoo consumes way too much oil. Much in the manner of BMW M V8s.
The power differencial is no where near the "advertised" figues.
The Mustang is advertised at 526 and its puts down 470
The current M2 is advertised at 410 and puts down 440 to the wheels (if it wasn't detuned over the M3 which it shouldn't have been) and more torque than the stang. The M2 is actually the more powerful car of the two when you consider power to weight and the power curve.
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OK, I concede there are some reasons to choose the M2 over the 'stang. I'd happily take either TBH.
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I'd get the GT350 if I was a Ford nut, owned classic Mustangs or other Ferds, etc. It'a a notable mustang. But an M2 is a legit DD car than hauls major ass. If they offered a "big tank" option on that betch I would be a taker doe.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:51 pm OK, I concede there are some reasons to choose the M2 over the 'stang. I'd happily take either TBH.
After spending some time in the stang.... I think it is more deservant of the 2.3+10AT than the 5.2 vodoo. The car itself is just very "cheap" feeling. Everything wears quick, is made to some kind of cheap budget etc.

It makes a great cruiser at 25-35k MSRP anything over that ... it starts to play with the big boys that are actually nice places to be inside etc.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:54 pm I'd get the GT350 if I was a Ford nut, owned classic Mustangs or other Ferds, etc. It'a a notable mustang. But an M2 is a legit DD car than hauls major ass. If they offered a "big tank" option on that betch I would be a taker doe.
The 13.2 gallon tank is just a whole lot of :wtf: then again the mustang has a 15.5 gallon tank and gets likely far worse mpg than the M2.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:58 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:54 pm I'd get the GT350 if I was a Ford nut, owned classic Mustangs or other Ferds, etc. It'a a notable mustang. But an M2 is a legit DD car than hauls major ass. If they offered a "big tank" option on that betch I would be a taker doe.
The 13.2 gallon tank is just a whole lot of :wtf: then again the mustang has a 15.5 gallon tank and gets likely far worse mpg than the M2.
Both are wholly unacceptable given the ridic engines they are supplying.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:08 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:58 pm

The 13.2 gallon tank is just a whole lot of :wtf: then again the mustang has a 15.5 gallon tank and gets likely far worse mpg than the M2.
Both are wholly unacceptable given the ridic engines they are supplying.
Allows for more time spent at gas stations with that mandatory "fill up" selfie. That shit :triggered: me
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:11 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:08 pm

Both are wholly unacceptable given the ridic engines they are supplying.
Allows for more time spent at gas stations with that mandatory "fill up" selfie. That shit :triggered: me
Everyone over 22 should delete their gram. The only gas station photos I take is the price of E85 for the srt. Its a big middle finger. Its like 2.50 a gallon. Gas is cheap too. Loving it. Hard.
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NeonJonny wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:52 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:11 pm

Allows for more time spent at gas stations with that mandatory "fill up" selfie. That shit :triggered: me
Everyone over 22 should delete their gram. The only gas station photos I take is the price of E85 for the srt. Its a big middle finger. Its like 2.50 a gallon. Gas is cheap too. Loving it. Hard.
I'm 25

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Not the shot I’m talking about ... look up any older Fox body or camero from 93-02 ... they all have it and 1/2 have the Craigslist finger
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Im 30. 99% is dog pictures. No face selfies for my ugly ass. I added ya calederoo
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Who the fuck takes pictures of themselves getting gas? How self-absorbed do you need to be?
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Huckleberry wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:37 pm Who the fuck takes pictures of themselves getting gas? How self-absorbed do you need to be?
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020 ... olet-ford/

BMW vs Supra vs Mustang GT vs Vette
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Davestr wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:20 pm https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020 ... olet-ford/

BMW vs Supra vs Mustang GT vs Vette
Compares nicely to a Nissan from 2009 for 10k less :disgust:
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max225 wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:00 pm
Davestr wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:20 pm https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020 ... olet-ford/

BMW vs Supra vs Mustang GT vs Vette
Compares nicely to a Nissan from 2009 for 10k less :disgust:
In honesty the Z will be much less costly to operate as well.
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https://www.automobilemag.com/news/firs ... 22A1FF26BF
they just bought Supra VIN 20201 for a cool $2.1 million. That might seem like an excessive premium on a car that will have a base MSRP of $50,920, but beyond the cool factor of owning the first example, the entire bid will benefit the American Heart Association and the Bob Woodruff Foundation. The Supra has also been signed by Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda—a neat extra.
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