Presidential Debates
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:05 pm
I'm sure he's already working up a reason to blame "teh radical left" for his contraction. Like Hillary had Bill seduce Hope Hicks and brought her back to the house where Hillary was wearing a Scarecrow mask and shot Hope in the face with a concentrated dose of weaponized COVID that infected her and erased her memory. Then they gave her a watch and waited for her to get to the White House, upon which Hillary pressed a button that made the watch a mind control device that left Hope walking like a robot saying, "I must infect the President."Dbest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:48 am Some deep thoughts from this morning while pooping.
Trump looks like an asshole downplaying Corona and saying the pandemic is almost over then getting it right.... so what if he determines the Democrats planted the virus trying to taking him out before the election and he becomes a COVID martyr for the Proud Boys he told to stand by to take action. Civil unrest happens, he declares martial law, the election doesn't happen, he stays in power. The transition from Penis Potato (dick-tater) to Dictator is complete.
Sounds plausible.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:16 pmI'm sure he's already working up a reason to blame "teh radical left" for his contraction. Like Hillary had Bill seduce Hope Hicks and brought her back to the house where Hillary was wearing a Scarecrow mask and shot Hope in the face with a concentrated dose of weaponized COVID that infected her and erased her memory. Then they gave her a watch and waited for her to get to the White House, upon which Hillary pressed a button that made the watch a mind control device that left Hope walking like a robot saying, "I must infect the President."Dbest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:48 am Some deep thoughts from this morning while pooping.
Trump looks like an asshole downplaying Corona and saying the pandemic is almost over then getting it right.... so what if he determines the Democrats planted the virus trying to taking him out before the election and he becomes a COVID martyr for the Proud Boys he told to stand by to take action. Civil unrest happens, he declares martial law, the election doesn't happen, he stays in power. The transition from Penis Potato (dick-tater) to Dictator is complete.
Lol likedDbest wrote:At least there was a clear winner... Jorgensen
I forgot to mention... You're a straight white millionaire. Even in looneys that puts you so far away from "average" that I'm how you can even call yourself that. No one on this forum is average. We're all winners, not suckers and losers.Tarspin wrote:Pence Harris debate, and....GO!
For one, it went much smoother then the Biden Trump gong show. I also think that the portion I caught on the radio today before exiting the signal range was a Pence dominated affair, meaning that he handled the questions better then Harris did IMO.
This all through the lense of an average working class dork living in a different country. Curious to hear what you guys think about it.
on the finance piece, and consider myself above average in that sense, but it is just one element of my life and a byproduct of my desire to be good at things that pay well. Still average in other respects have 2.3 kids, a dog, marital issues like many, grew up in a poor immigrant household as a newcomer to the country, am six months out from having to liquidate assets to stay afloat if anything drastic changes.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:34 pmI forgot to mention... You're a straight white millionaire. Even in looneys that puts you so far away from "average" that I'm how you can even call yourself that. No one on this forum is average.Tarspin wrote:Pence Harris debate, and....GO!
For one, it went much smoother then the Biden Trump gong show. I also think that the portion I caught on the radio today before exiting the signal range was a Pence dominated affair, meaning that he handled the questions better then Harris did IMO.
This all through the lense of an average working class dork living in a different country. Curious to hear what you guys think about it.
I don't get it completely, are one of the parties wanting to tax high income earners more to fund healthcare + university education sans hand outs to minorities? What is the definition of high income, over 100k? Over 400k? If they raise tax on the 100k+ crowd they are going to be losing a lot of voters and if they hit up the 400k+ crowd they won't have enough revenue to fund all those services.... I don't get the , really wish politicians were forced to outline these things clearly and then be mandated to stick with the plan. It always ends up being a shitshow post election.troyguitar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:36 am I think that most people support higher taxes on millionaires, especially if it's to support programs like free public healthcare and university options instead of spreading "democracy" on brown people. Those people are all concentrated in a few voting districts though so they don't count as much as hillbillies.
Biden's plan is to tax people making over $400K (US) a bit more. The reasoning is that most of the people in this tax bracket move money around and creatively avoid paying taxes. Trump's given the wealthiest people tax breaks that have made them richer, and left the rest of us normal people to front the bill. Trickle down economics don't really work like people want it to. The rich end up holding on to more of that money and it doesn't trickle into the economyTarspin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:12 amI don't get it completely, are one of the parties wanting to tax high income earners more to fund healthcare + university education sans hand outs to minorities? What is the definition of high income, over 100k? Over 400k? If they raise tax on the 100k+ crowd they are going to be losing a lot of voters and if they hit up the 400k+ crowd they won't have enough revenue to fund all those services.... I don't get the , really wish politicians were forced to outline these things clearly and then be mandated to stick with the plan. It always ends up being a shitshow post election.troyguitar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:36 am I think that most people support higher taxes on millionaires, especially if it's to support programs like free public healthcare and university options instead of spreading "democracy" on brown people. Those people are all concentrated in a few voting districts though so they don't count as much as hillbillies.
Great info, thanks for the breakdown broseph! 20-35% of our income seems rather fair and pretty typical, there's no reason why the above 400k crowd needs programs to limit taxes to that amount. Shit, Canucks earning that much at a job need to pay almost 50% tax on anything over 100k by default. Here people are legit trying to scrape at any programs that let you keep a bigger chunk.Acid666 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:10 amBiden's plan is to tax people making over $400K (US) a bit more. The reasoning is that most of the people in this tax bracket move money around and creatively avoid paying taxes. Trump's given the wealthiest people tax breaks that have made them richer, and left the rest of us normal people to front the bill. Trickle down economics don't really work like people want it to. The rich end up holding on to more of that money and it doesn't trickle into the economyTarspin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:12 am
I don't get it completely, are one of the parties wanting to tax high income earners more to fund healthcare + university education sans hand outs to minorities? What is the definition of high income, over 100k? Over 400k? If they raise tax on the 100k+ crowd they are going to be losing a lot of voters and if they hit up the 400k+ crowd they won't have enough revenue to fund all those services.... I don't get the , really wish politicians were forced to outline these things clearly and then be mandated to stick with the plan. It always ends up being a shitshow post election.
"A 2012 study by the Tax Justice Network indicates that wealth of the super-rich does not trickle down to improve the economy, but it instead tends to be amassed and sheltered in tax havens with a negative effect on the tax bases of the home economy."
All the majority of Americans just want people to pay their fair share of taxes. With the last bit of news coming out that Trump paid $750 one year in taxes a couple of years ago, is total BS. He can complain that he's paid tons in other taxes, but it still shows that he paid virtually zero in federal income tax. Something that eats up 20-35% of our income. Andrew Yang made a great point when questioned where his Universal Basic Income money would come from by pointing out that if huge companies like Amazon would pay a proper tax and not creatively avoid it, we'd make enough most of that money to cover it.
Y'all should get this guy moderating the next one.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:59 pm I felt that Pence had no respect for Harris or the moderator. He frequently interrupted Harris, which one would think he would have made a note not to do considering the notoriety of the last debate, and he really went out of his way to ignore the moderator when told his time was up. Harris started running over time, as well, but it seemed like she started doing it after Pence set the precedent that he doesn't give a fuck about time constraints.
I'm also surprised Harris didn't come back at Pence when he was trying to say that a repeal of the Trump tax bill would automatically equal a raise in taxes on all Americans. She should have pointed out that Trump and Pence are going to raise taxes on all Americans when those "cuts" go away in 2025. The only permanent cuts are the ones they handed out to corporations.
Another great point/missed opportunity.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:59 pm I felt that Pence had no respect for Harris or the moderator. He frequently interrupted Harris, which one would think he would have made a note not to do considering the notoriety of the last debate, and he really went out of his way to ignore the moderator when told his time was up. Harris started running over time, as well, but it seemed like she started doing it after Pence set the precedent that he doesn't give a fuck about time constraints.
I'm also surprised Harris didn't come back at Pence when he was trying to say that a repeal of the Trump tax bill would automatically equal a raise in taxes on all Americans. She should have pointed out that Trump and Pence are going to raise taxes on all Americans when those "cuts" go away in 2025. The only permanent cuts are the ones they handed out to corporations.
Huckleberry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:44 pm What's the probability that Trump simply starts shouting over Biden when his mic is cut?
Yea I thought the same thing. He can still shout with his mic cut and Biden will still hear him. And most likely his shouting will be picked up by Biden's mic anyway.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:44 pm What's the probability that Trump simply starts shouting over Biden when his mic is cut?