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I love Muricans who dis the system -
Then collect Social Security/Medicare/ Unemployment etc. If you hate the Gov so much prove you are self insuring and completely outside the system. Give all your benefits back so mine can be increased. Upon doing so book a flight to Somalia and live your gov-free life. The price of an AK there is about 8 head of cattle. Im happy to provide Caspian half the amount so he can leave and have a good start on his new gov free life. His azz would last about 5 minutes before being abused and beheaded LOL. IF you hate the Gov -- LEAVE. Please leave. Turn in your passport and pay the fee to give up your citizenship. Take action. Leave. You wont be missed at all.
Im guessing he is an opioid addicted, science denying fool among the many running their mouths now. Using the very science they deny to espouse hate and all other foolishness cause Mommy didnt like them. Caspian - Fk off.
Too much of a pussy to write this response to me before I was banned from that section?

I don't collect social security, or medicare, or unemployment. I don't take any "benefits" from the government/people. Why would I go to Somalia when the US CIA are fucking up that country like they fuck up every other country, including the USA?

Leave? Go where? Every piece of land on this rock is controlled by the same shitbags who control the USA so it's not like anyone is getting away from this new world order government. And nope, I've never tried opium/heroin, never will. But I bet you're another fatass Amerikan drunk though, who drives a shitbox government motors vehicle while you stuff your face with pork and beef, then when you get sick you go to the "doctor" so he can prescribe you some pills, too stupid to realize that it's your diet causing you illness. Fuck you too Dave. ;)

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The Pentagon’s Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) is the lead agency in the covert ‘war on terror’ in Somalia, although the CIA also has a strong regional presence.

The US has been carrying out extensive covert military operations inside Somalia since 2001, as a major six-part investigation by the US Army Times recently revealed.

Elite troops from the Pentagon’s JSOC are routinely deployed on the ground for surveillance, reconnaissance, and assault and capture operations. In June 2011, the US began carrying out drone strikes in Somalia. JSOC has its own fleet of armed Reaper drones, which are flown from various bases in the region.

The CIA also operates a secret base at Mogadishu airport, according to a detailed investigation by Jeremy Scahill at The Nation. Unarmed US surveillance drones also regularly fly from the airport, according to a well-informed Bureau source. While some of these are part of the US ‘war on terror’, many provide support for peacekeeping operations in the region.
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I do kind of feel bad for fuxoring up Mrs. Sno's thread thoe. Sorry Mrs. Sno. :(
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Caspian wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:34 pm LMAO

I do kind of feel bad for fuxoring up Mrs. Sno's thread thoe. Sorry Mrs. Sno. :(
I seriously doubt that.
I think the time has come to help turn some Cap'n Caspy Aspy threads into some scat eating threads.
I'll jump on it when I get home later. I'm currently busy earning a livable wage and paying taxes to a corrupt government that only wants me to consume and inject toxins and anal glands of dead soldiers who are just pawns in the Rockerfelllller game of world domination.
Am I getting it right? I'm trying man, you gotta cut me some slack.





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Weather control conspiracy theories: scientifically unjustifiable
By Dennis Mersereau August 16, 2013

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Major disasters attract major attention. Whenever a plane crashes or a hurricane makes landfall, the event draws international news coverage and countless internet postings. Most of the time, people take experts at face value when they try to explain the science behind why a certain event happened, but for a small and vocal segment of society, the “truth” is hardly that at all. Enter the conspiracy theorists.

No matter how silly or factually incorrect they seem, conspiracy theories represent a very real strain of thought. Most of these theories involve politics – President John F. Kennedy’s assassination is perhaps the most famous example – or other seemingly curious events, such as the “Roswell UFO incident” back in 1947. But some of these theories challenge very basic science.

The two main weather control conspiracy theories revolve around the thought that the United States government controls the weather through a technology called HAARP, as well as airplane-produced “chemtrails.”
The HAARP facility in Gakona, AK. (U.S. Naval Research Lab)
The HAARP facility in Gakona, AK. (U.S. Naval Research Lab)

HAARP, an acronym for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, is a large array of high frequency radio antennas located in Gakona, Alaska. The program and all associated antenna equipment, which was forced to shut down and go on hiatus this past May due to sequestration, was funded by the Air Force, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), and the University of Alaska.

The purpose of HAARP was to determine how the ionosphere, or the upper layers of the atmosphere, affects radio signals, with the ultimate goal of helping to develop more advanced radio communication technology. The project accomplished this by transmitting “a 3.6 MW signal, in the 2.8–10 MHz region of the HF (high-frequency) band, into the ionosphere,” which was then studied by various instruments on the ground to see how the ionosphere affected these radio communications.

Conspiracy theorists beg to differ. A quick Google search (which returns over 7,000,000 hits) shows that HAARP has been blamed for pretty much everything bad that’s happened since the mid-1990s – terrorist attack, car accidents, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, nightmares, toothaches, bad dates, you name it – but the project is most popularly associated with its alleged “weather control” capabilities.

Related: Killing killer tornadoes before they strike: Is it possible?

Several popular for-profit websites claim that they have hardware that can detect HAARP-generated energy across the contiguous United States and that severe weather will occur where these “hot spots” show up on their detectors. I’ve made a point of clicking over to these HAARP weather websites near several predicted severe weather outbreaks this year, and found that the so-called HAARP activity maps always show up a few hours after the weather models are run and the Storm Prediction Center releases their latest forecasts. Funny, that.


Before the project was suspended due to lack of funds, the University of Alaska ran HAARP’s official website, but the website no longer works as of early August. The site had the array’s exact address (Google Maps even shows that the array is located off of “H.A.A.R.P. Access Road”), pictures, information, and even several 24/7 webcams focused on the arrays with a beautiful view of the mountains in the background. The large amount of openness surrounding HAARP takes the wind out the argument that the government conducted this project in secret, like many HAARP theorists assert.

HAARP does not and cannot control the weather. While the frequencies are high powered, it doesn’t have nearly enough energy to do anything over the Lower 48, let alone specifically target communities for destruction like one would see in a science fiction movie. Both common sense and a basic understanding of meteorology debunk the conspiracy theory surrounding HAARP’s alleged ability to control the weather. But what about something closer to home; say, right above us?

A decaying contrail in the skies over Florida. (Leesa Brown)

Contrails, short for condensation trails, form when the hot, moist exhaust from aircraft flying at high altitudes condenses when it meets the extremely cold upper atmosphere and forms a long, narrow cirrus cloud. Contrails can make for a beautiful sky, especially during sunrise or sunset, and are indicative of particularly cold air aloft.

Contrails are harmless (as they consist of water vapor) and tend to stick around for minutes or hours, depending on how favorable the atmosphere is for sustaining such clouds. Conspiracy theorists, however, call these innocuous contrails something more sinister – “chemtrails.”

They believe that contrails are really trails of chemicals (hence the name) sprayed by aircraft for nefarious purposes, usually to control the weather, make us sick, control our minds, or cause general mischief.

The idea that aircraft that produce contrails are really spraying “chemtrails” is preposterous on its face. Airlines mostly operate based on the weight of the aircraft. The weight of the passengers, cargo, and luggage onboard is crucial for both determining how much fuel is onboard, which ultimately determines how much they pay to fill the tanks, as well as the balance of the aircraft in flight. If the plane is too heavy or the weight is distributed incorrectly, it could crash.

A Lufthansa Airbus A380 producing contrails over Mobile, Alabama. (Dennis Mersereau)

Liquids are heavy. One gallon of jet fuel weighs approximately 6.7 pounds. Take a Boeing 747-400, for example: a fully-loaded 747 flying from London to Hong Kong would require almost a full tank of gas – somewhere between 50,000 and 60,000 gallons of fuel. That’s upwards of 370,000 pounds of fuel in the tanks. Between the weight of the fuel, the passengers, the cargo, and the luggage onboard, there’s simply no room left for “chemtrail” chemicals even if they did want to spray us all with toxic gunk.

Some people who believe in the chemtrail conspiracy theories also swear by spraying distilled vinegar up in the air, claiming that the vinegar ascends thousands of feet in just minutes to neutralize a sky full of these wispy clouds. A quick search of “chemtrail” and “vinegar” on YouTube brings up over 3,800 hilarious videos of people seriously trying this.

The chemtrail theorists actually have more historical footing than their HAARP counterparts. Many governments and institutions across the world have experimented with cloud seeding over the last 70 or so years with the intention of forcing clouds to produce rain or to keep them from producing severe weather, with varying reports of how well these efforts have succeeded. Precipitation forms when water condenses or freezes around a nucleus (a speck of dust, sand, or even small bugs) and liquid builds up on this newly-formed droplet. Cloud seeding efforts seek to provide this nucleus around which water can condense and ultimately lead to the production of precipitation.

Related: Deja vu for China’s weather modification program

The problem with conspiracy theories is that it’s impossible to try to communicate to a theorist the sound science behind a project like HAARP or the cause of contrails without being waved off.

The people who want to believe the conspiracy will believe it no matter what you tell them. If you try to explain the science and prove the theory wrong, you’re wrong, because “that’s just what they want you to think.” Participating in discussions about these theories can be entertaining, but it becomes a problem when people start pushing anti-science as a legitimate alternative to reality.

* Guest contributor Dennis Mersereau, who grew up in Woodbridge, Va., writes a weather column for Daily Kos.
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J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 2006 Mar; 41(3): 342–344.
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Conspiracy Beliefs about the Origin of HIV/AIDS in Four Racial/Ethnic Groups
Michael W. Ross,1 E. James Essien,2 and Isabel Torres1
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We examined beliefs about the origin of HIV as a genocidal conspiracy in men and women of four racial/ethnic groups in a street intercept sample in Houston, Texas. Groups sampled were African American, Latino, non-Hispanic white, and Asian. Highest levels of conspiracy theories were found in women, and in African American and Latino populations (over a quarter of African Americans and over a fifth of Latinos) with slightly lower rates in whites (a fifth) and Asians less than one in ten). Reductions in condom use associated with such beliefs were however only apparent in African American men. Conspiracy beliefs were an independent predictor of reported condom use along with race/ethnicity, gender, education, and age group. Data suggest that genocidal conspiracy beliefs are relatively widespread in several racial/ethnic groups and that an understanding of the sources of these beliefs is important to determine their possible impact on HIV prevention and treatment behaviors.
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Conspiracy Beliefs about the Origin of HIV/AIDS in Four Racial/Ethnic Groups

Conspiracy beliefs about the origin of HIV and the role of the government in the AIDS epidemic are prevalent, particularly in the African American community. Klonoff and Landrine (1999) found in a random door-to-door survey of African Americans in California that 27% of African Americans endorsed the belief that “HIV/AIDS is a man-made virus that the federal government made to kill and wipe out black people”, and a further 23% were unsure. More recently, Bogart and Thorburn (2005) conducted a random telephone survey of African Americans living in the contiguous U.S. They found that “AIDS is a form of genocide against blacks”, (5-point Likert scale, strongly agree to strongly disagree) over 20% of men and 12% of women somewhat or strongly agreed; for the question “AIDS was produced in a government laboratory”, over 30% of men and 24% of women agreed. Both studies note the history of the Tuskegee syphilis study (Jones, 1993) and its potential role in generating mistrust of the government with regard to treatment and racial discrimination and disparities in the health care system. These beliefs have potentially dangerous consequences for HIV prevention and AIDS treatment: Bogart and Thorburn note that HIV/AIDS conspiracy beliefs were significantly associated with negative condom attitudes and inconsistent condom use, and may represent a facet of negative attitudes toward condom use among black men.

Findings from a recent study on HIV vaccine acceptability among communities at risk suggest that conspiracy beliefs may be widespread and reflect substantial mistrust of the government and health care system among both African Americans and Latinos (Newman, et al, 2004). In this study, a higher percentage of Latinos expressed their mistrust of the government and physicians when compared to other ethnic groups. Approximately 55% of Latinos and 50% of African Americans, for instance, reported believing that the government secretly had an HIV vaccine. HIV vaccine acceptability, in addition, was lower for those who believed physicians experiment on people without consent (Latinos 38%, African Americans 25%, Whites 15%).

This recent study suggesting that both Latinos and African Americans report HIV/AIDS conspiracy beliefs indicates that a sole focus on the African American community may obscure the possibility that conspiracy theories may be common in other populations at risk. Indeed, if they are a facet of negative condom use attitudes, they might be expected to occur in other racial and ethnic populations. We analyzed data from a study in which HIV/AIDS conspiracy beliefs were investigated in order to determine (1) their distribution in other racial/ethnic groups, and (2) their relationship to reported condom use.
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Data for the present analysis came from a larger community-based anonymous survey (Ross et al., 2003; Essien et al., 2000, 2005) designed to determine knowledge, misconceptions, and sources of information in minority populations regarding HIV transmission. The study relied on self-administered questionnaires and respondents were recruited from public parks, mass transit locations, malls and shopping centers in southwest and downtown areas of Houston, Texas. These neighborhoods have substantial minority populations. Data were collected in 1997–1998. Inclusion criteria were age above 18 and ability to fill out a questionnaire in English. Trained interviewers asked for participation in the study and all participants were advised that they could refuse to answer any questions and that participation was both voluntary and anonymous. Those who agreed to participate were given the questionnaire to complete and deposit in a sealed box: those who declined to participate (estimated at about 40%) were counted as non-responders. Lack of time was the excuse given by the great majority of non-responders, followed by lack of facility in English. Return of the questionnaire was taken as evidence of consent. The study was approved by the relevant university human subjects review board. The questions relevant to the present analysis were “AIDS is an agent of genocide created by the United States government to kill off minority populations” (true, false, don’t know) and for condom use, “What percentage of your partners use condoms during sexual contact?” (none, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%). Significance was set at the 5% level (2-tailed).
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Demographic data on the four racial/ethnic samples are shown in Table 1. Data on proportions believing in the conspiracy question are presented in Table 2. In response to the question about the percentage of sexual partners with whom condoms are used, the African American male sample data indicated a significant relationship (χ2 =10.87, df=4, p=.03) in the direction of those with conspiracy beliefs (true + unsure vs false) using condoms less. Just using true vs false and excluding unsure responses produced a similar result (χ2 =12.56, df=3, p=.02). None of the other male or female ethnic/racial groups approached significance on this question with either trichotomized or dichotomized conspiracy beliefs.
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Belief in AIDS as a genocidal conspiracy (%)

Carrying out a multinomial logistic regression on the trivariate (yes, unsure, no) conspiracy belief variable, with race/ethnicity, gender, age group, and education level as the independent variables, only two racial/ethnic categories (African American and Latinos) were significant from the comparison group (non-Hispanic White) at p<.01 as predictors (Exp(B)=2.83, and Exp(B)=3.14, respectively). Using bivariate logistic regression (conspiracy beliefs true vs false, excluding “don’t know” responses) on the same variables produced a similar result, with race/ethnicity as the sole significant predictor at p<.001 with Exp(B)=2.02 and 1.36, respectively. Multiple regression analysis of the predictors of condom use (conspiracy beliefs, gender, education, race/ethnicity, age group) indicated that all of these variables were significant predictors, using a simultaneous entry strategy, at p<.02 (F=19.66, df=5, R2=.073), although the variance accounted for is modest.
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These data must be interpreted with the caveats that they are based on a nonrandom convenience sample, an English questionnaire, and that this is a sample collected from public places in 1998 with a refusal rate approaching half. Those not fluent in English would be underrepresented, and those who regularly frequent public places would be strongly over-represented. It is also possible that non-English-speaking Latinos may hold different levels of conspiracy beliefs from English-speaking Latinos. Nevertheless, these data do demonstrate, with the above limitations, that conspiracy beliefs are not limited to the African American population, but are almost as prevalent in the Latino sample and well represented in the non-Hispanic White sample. The Asian sample has the lowest proportion endorsing the belief that HIV/AIDS is part of a conspiracy. These data suggest that the Tuskeegee scandal may not be a full explanation of the genesis of conspiracy beliefs, and that there is a more general suspicion of the federal government as a promoter of HIV (although Tuskeegee may explain suspicion in groups other than African Americans). Exploration of factors underlying these beliefs in populations in addition to African Americans is warranted, especially as conspiracy beliefs do make a significant, though modest, independent contribution to the prediction of reported condom use.

Similar to Bogart and Thorburn’s (2005) findings, there were no significant gender differences in conspiracy beliefs. Our African American data (29.4% agree) are close to the 26.5% “agree” finding of Klonoff and Landrine (1999) in African Americans in California. Our data also reproduce, albeit with somewhat differently worded items, the finding of Bogart and Thorburn (2005) on the prevalence of conspiracy-theory believers, and their findings that conspiracy beliefs in African American men are associated with lower reported condom use. However, this was not the case in the other racial/ethnic samples and may be specific to the African American population. The relatively high prevalence of HIV-related conspiracy beliefs, especially among Latinos, suggests that conspiracy beliefs are a phenomenon that is more widely distributed than just the African American community.

Conspiracy beliefs among Latinos may have their origin in several sources. Latinos in Texas have historically suffered racism: in the history of Texas, there were more Mexicans lynched than African Americans (Carrigan & Webb, 2003) and this type of oppression becomes part of the collective consciousness of a people. Mistrust can be generalized to other institutions, including the health care system. Recent xenophobic trends in the United States have included the targeting of Latin American immigrants as the source of social and economic problems and have even led to the introduction of anti-immigrant legislation that would prohibit access to emergency rooms and limit undocumented people’s access to hospitals. In the United States, African American, Puerto Rican, Chicano, indigenous, and poor women have been more likely to be sterilized than White women from the same or higher socioeconomic classes. Women with physical disabilities whom physicians judge to be “unfit to reproduce” have also been sterilized since the eugenics movement in the 1920s. By 1968, in a 30-year period, a third of the women of childbearing age had been sterilized in Puerto Rico. Sterilization abuse was so common among African American women in the South that a woman’s having her fallopian tubes tied or uterus removed without her knowledge or consent was called the “Mississippi appendectomy” (Wilcox, 2002). A class action suit in Los Angeles revealed that Chicano women were being sterilized immediately after giving birth. The non-English speaking women had been given sterilization consent forms in English and were told the operation was to deal with the after-affects of the pregnancy (Stern, 2005). Suspicion of health-related motives in Latinos, while speculative, are thus not hard to account for.

Relatively widespread beliefs in HIV conspiracy appear to occur across several racial and ethnic groups, and these data also suggest that conspiracy beliefs do make a significant contribution to reported condom use. More detailed investigation into the sources of such beliefs, using qualitative approaches, are warranted, and further research into the origin of this belief is appropriate.
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This research was funded by a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health (Grant number G12RR03045-11). Preparation of this manuscript was facilitated by National Institute of Mental Health grant number RO1-MH62960-01.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Since this rotten douche has come aboard we probably need a "'Murica Fuck Yeah" thread with gifs like this.
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Dat thrust to weight ratio doe. :megusta:
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Fuck yeah I totally got Dave's grandma panties in a bunch. LMAO. Dood doesn't even know the definition of the words, conspiracy, and theory.

Dave is obviously incapable of making the connections I point out, or he just really doesn't like them because he is so deep inside the matrix, so hopelessly dependent upon this system. Not sure why people get mad at me for pointing this shit out, notice how they never get mad at the IRS or the corrupt congressmen who have sold out to corporations and lobbies. No, you want to be all butthurt at the guy dropping names of real people. LOL. No wonder congress continues with their theft of the people and giving the nation away to foreign entities, cause you idiots aren't holding a flame to their ass, instead you are pissed at me. LOL, Fuckin Merika.
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Which "terrorists" were the US Navy & chAIR force goons "defending" Merika from in that movie?

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Which "terrorists" were the US Navy & chAIR force goons "defending" Merika from in that movie?

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Pretty sure it was puppets. Damn muppet terrorists.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:10 pm Pretty sure it was puppets. Damn muppet terrorists.
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Those sneaky Rothschild muppets always trying to take over the world.
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[user not found] wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:46 am
wap wrote:Yea. Dave is the problem child of this forum. :rolleyes:
Literally has me laughing out loud
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