OT 20: rotisserie roller coaster

[troyguitar]

Having a huge chest and arms certainly seems like a liability for surfing. Dunno though, maybe you are more stable with more "road hugging weight"?

I can hardly SUP.

[SAWCE]

Having a huge chest and arms certainly seems like a liability for surfing. Dunno though, maybe you are more stable with more "road hugging weight"?

I can hardly SUP.

Didn't really think about size/weight making a difference, but that makes sense for sure. Although, last time I went I was a good 50-60lbs lighter than I am now. Wonder what it'd be like now.

Reminds me, I need to shop for a new snowboard.. mine is getting old and I could definitely use a bigger size than I'm on now.. current one is 156 or 158cm.. I'll go up to 161 or 162 next time.

[Desertbreh]

FAIR usage. Next trip is October 2, bringing IT guy down to fully complete our battle station of wireless badassery. Bought a couple of surfboards, took some lessons in Hawaii...........pretty humbling. The biggest problem was my lack of flexibility and learned muscle memory for specific tasks, as well as the fact that I am not an athlete so it's going to take some work. It wasn't a failure, I "caught waves" but not for long. I'll delve into the specifics in the workout thread but suffice it to say yoga is becoming part of my life.

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

You're at the zenith of meatheaddom, your body is naturally resilient. At 52, I'm beginning to realize whole body flexibility isn't just essential for trying new and relatively athletic endeavors like surfing, it is essential for just feeling better/quality of life. Also helps with getting out of Corvettes at Hooters.

[SAWCE]

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

You're at the zenith of meatheaddom, your body is naturally resilient. At 52, I'm beginning to realize whole body flexibility isn't just essential for trying new and relatively athletic endeavors like surfing, it is essential for just feeling better/quality of life. Also helps with getting out of Corvettes at Hooters.

although I'm definitely noticing that aches and pains take a little longer to go away these days. Keeping up with weekly body work has made a huge difference. Went and got worked on for half an hour last night. Right quad was giving me some issues. As soon as he put hands on me he could feel where it was all locked up.. breaking that bitch up was incredibly painful. After that he worked on the upper right side of my back. Next week I think we're going to tackle my arms depending on how my quads and back are feeling.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

FAIR usage. Next trip is October 2, bringing IT guy down to fully complete our battle station of wireless badassery. Bought a couple of surfboards, took some lessons in Hawaii...........pretty humbling. The biggest problem was my lack of flexibility and learned muscle memory for specific tasks, as well as the fact that I am not an athlete so it's going to take some work. It wasn't a failure, I "caught waves" but not for long. I'll delve into the specifics in the workout thread but suffice it to say yoga is becoming part of my life.

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

[Desertbreh]

Having a huge chest and arms certainly seems like a liability for surfing. Dunno though, maybe you are more stable with more "road hugging weight"?

I can hardly SUP.

Didn't really think about size/weight making a difference, but that makes sense for sure. Although, last time I went I was a good 50-60lbs lighter than I am now. Wonder what it'd be like now.

Reminds me, I need to shop for a new snowboard.. mine is getting old and I could definitely use a bigger size than I'm on now.. current one is 156 or 158cm.. I'll go up to 161 or 162 next time.

Beginners are recommended to have surfboards with 1 liter of volume per kg. At 250 lbs, you would need 113 liters of volume, the biggest boards are usually 105-110 before you get to SUP size. I bought a pretty spendy Pyzel foamie and then a cheapie wavecrest for a second board for visitors/to practice popups with. As Troy notes, notta lotta pro surfers out there with the linebacker build. (read none). Fortunately O'Neill makes a wetsuit with a "2XLS" wetsuit that fits my relatively large chest and shoulders but also works for my 5'10" height. I honestly think you would have to get one custom built.

This is sort of a must do thing for me, I (unwittingly) purchased a retirement home directly in front of one of the best surf breaks between San Diego and Ensenada. Not figuring this out would be like Chris owning a boat slip and not buying a boat. I mean, there is actually a paved path down to a private beach to paddle out from, and a shower when you're done....... Unfortunately or fortunately, it is going to require more than writing a check. I am embracing the challenge.

[SAWCE]

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

Yep! Stretching and just more movement in general. I think my quad locked up because of how much driving I did over the last two weeks. Think I made the 360ish mile round trip drive to my parents' place and back 5 or 6 times at a minimum seat time of 3 hours each way depending on traffic. I was also working remote the whole time and didn't have my normal routine of getting up to walk around after meals at my desk and stuff. Sitting all day is so bad for us.

[troyguitar]

Sitting all day is so bad for us.

I'm very guilty of it too, which is why I haven't even bothered going to a doctor yet. Forcing myself to spend more time stretching/moving (and sleeping) would solve most of my physical issues. Dunno where to find that time, I guess I need to of DFD for starters.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

Yep! Stretching and just more movement in general. I think my quad locked up because of how much driving I did over the last two weeks. Think I made the 360ish mile round trip drive to my parents' place and back 5 or 6 times at a minimum seat time of 3 hours each way depending on traffic. I was also working remote the whole time and didn't have my normal routine of getting up to walk around after meals at my desk and stuff. Sitting all day is so bad for us.

It really is.

I was off for 1.5 months roughly, and sitting at the desk all day again has been tough. I've been doing my office workouts again, which helps me get up and be active, but I still wish I could do more.

[SAWCE]

Didn't really think about size/weight making a difference, but that makes sense for sure. Although, last time I went I was a good 50-60lbs lighter than I am now. Wonder what it'd be like now.

Reminds me, I need to shop for a new snowboard.. mine is getting old and I could definitely use a bigger size than I'm on now.. current one is 156 or 158cm.. I'll go up to 161 or 162 next time.

Beginners are recommended to have surfboards with 1 liter of volume per kg. At 250 lbs, you would need 113 liters of volume, the biggest boards are usually 105-110 before you get to SUP size. I bought a pretty spendy Pyzel foamie and then a cheapie wavecrest for a second board for visitors/to practice popups with. As Troy notes, notta lotta pro surfers out there with the linebacker build. (read none). Fortunately O'Neill makes a wetsuit with a "2XLS" wetsuit that fits my relatively large chest and shoulders but also works for my 5'10" height. I honestly think you would have to get one custom built.

This is sort of a must do thing for me, I (unwittingly) purchased a retirement home directly in front of one of the best surf breaks between San Diego and Ensenada. Not figuring this out would be like Chris owning a boat slip and not buying a boat. I mean, there is actually a paved path down to a private beach to paddle out from, and a shower when you're done....... Unfortunately or fortunately, it is going to require more than writing a check. I am embracing the challenge.

Ah that makes sense.. and explains why it was so hard for me when I tried. I used a big foam board as a kid when one of my dad's coworkers took me out to teach me, but after that whenever friends and I would mess around with trying to learn, we were on little short boards designed for carving and tricks.. we were probably at .5L/kg or even less than that

[SAWCE]

Sitting all day is so bad for us.

I'm very guilty of it too, which is why I haven't even bothered going to a doctor yet. Forcing myself to spend more time stretching/moving (and sleeping) would solve most of my physical issues. Dunno where to find that time, I guess I need to of DFD for starters.

I'm sitting and eating a meal now, but I'm gonna get up and do a little 5-10 minute walk as soon as I'm done. Would really love if we could get standing desks over here. Try to stand for like 5 minutes out of each hours or something simple like that.

[Desertbreh]

Beginners are recommended to have surfboards with 1 liter of volume per kg. At 250 lbs, you would need 113 liters of volume, the biggest boards are usually 105-110 before you get to SUP size. I bought a pretty spendy Pyzel foamie and then a cheapie wavecrest for a second board for visitors/to practice popups with. As Troy notes, notta lotta pro surfers out there with the linebacker build. (read none). Fortunately O'Neill makes a wetsuit with a "2XLS" wetsuit that fits my relatively large chest and shoulders but also works for my 5'10" height. I honestly think you would have to get one custom built.

This is sort of a must do thing for me, I (unwittingly) purchased a retirement home directly in front of one of the best surf breaks between San Diego and Ensenada. Not figuring this out would be like Chris owning a boat slip and not buying a boat. I mean, there is actually a paved path down to a private beach to paddle out from, and a shower when you're done....... Unfortunately or fortunately, it is going to require more than writing a check. I am embracing the challenge.

Ah that makes sense.. and explains why it was so hard for me when I tried. I used a big foam board as a kid when one of my dad's coworkers took me out to teach me, but after that whenever friends and I would mess around with trying to learn, we were on little short boards designed for carving and tricks.. we were probably at .5L/kg or even less than that

Yeah that won't work for linebacker beginners.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'm very guilty of it too, which is why I haven't even bothered going to a doctor yet. Forcing myself to spend more time stretching/moving (and sleeping) would solve most of my physical issues. Dunno where to find that time, I guess I need to of DFD for starters.

I'm sitting and eating a meal now, but I'm gonna get up and do a little 5-10 minute walk as soon as I'm done. Would really love if we could get standing desks over here. Try to stand for like 5 minutes out of each hours or something simple like that.

I get up and do at least 20 situps or pushups an hour. Which is nice because I can do that even if I'm in back to back meetings, I just shut my camera off for a few.

[SAWCE]

Finished off that meal with some pineapple that was in the freezer for like 20 minutes.. so fucking good. Time to walk.

[wap]

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

When I threw my back out in May I looked up "yoga for back pain" videos on youtube and did 2 or 3 of them once or twice daily for a couple weeks and am almost back to what passes for normal for a .

Yoga/stretching is vastly underrated as a therapy for many physical injuries.

[Tar]

definitely in4 surf stories. I've only been a handful of times and was terribad at it. I'm sure I could learn it with more practice, but meh, not high up on my priorities list. Can see where flexibility and yoga would definitely make it easier to learn. I need to get back to my daily stretching.

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

Questioning science? Pfft

[SAWCE]

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

When I threw my back out in May I looked up "yoga for back pain" videos on youtube and did 2 or 3 of them once or twice daily for a couple weeks and am almost back to what passes for normal for a .

Yoga/stretching is vastly underrated as a therapy for many physical injuries.

Imagine if you threw some strength training in on top of that

[Desertbreh]

I need to adopt a daily stretching routine.

About a decade ago, my old man (who would have been 60 at the time), started having some bad back pain, somewhat out of nowhere. Active dude, he went to the dr who referred him to a specialist who took a bunch of XRays and whatnot and suggested he needed surgery for some disk injury. He wanted to get a second opinion, and was referred to a dr at University of Michigan medical school who looked at his xrays and suggested that before surgery, he try an inversion table combined with daily stretch exercises. If that didn't work, then surgery would be the thing. He went to physical therapy to learn stretches specifically for his back, and started with the routine. After just a month, his back was feeling much better. After 6 months, pain was gone, he went back to have some xrays and whatnot done that confirmed his back was indeed improving. 10 years later, zero back pain, zero need for surgery. His back is still injured, but it's not getting worse in large part due to stretching.

My dog stretches CONSTANTLY, pretty much every 10 minutes. I barely stretch. I think a lot of our physical issues as humans could be addressed by stretching.

Questioning science? Pfft

If somebody told me I needed back surgery, I would go through 10 opinions and try every fking alternative before finally lying on the table.

[wap]

When I threw my back out in May I looked up "yoga for back pain" videos on youtube and did 2 or 3 of them once or twice daily for a couple weeks and am almost back to what passes for normal for a .

Yoga/stretching is vastly underrated as a therapy for many physical injuries.

Imagine if you threw some strength training in on top of that

There are some yoga exercises that are for strengthening muscles around joints, etc. I should do more of those.

[Tar]

Questioning science? Pfft

If somebody told me I needed back surgery, I would go through 10 opinions and try every fking alternative before finally lying on the table.

Same.
That's why it's for someone to blindly follow what a doctor tells you to do. I have a similar "anecdotal" story about SSRIs. Ask questions, be skeptical, use your own best judgment when pharma or politicians tell you what to do with your body IMO. There's nothing about it.

[troyguitar]

If somebody told me I needed back surgery, I would go through 10 opinions and try every fking alternative before finally lying on the table.

Same.
That's why it's for someone to blindly follow what a doctor tells you to do. I have a similar "anecdotal" story about SSRIs. Ask questions, be skeptical, use your own best judgment when pharma or politicians tell you what to do with your body IMO. There's nothing about it.

It's when you weigh opinions from crackpots (or yourself in most cases, we generally don't know enough about any of these things) equally against those of actual experts.

[Tar]

Same.
That's why it's for someone to blindly follow what a doctor tells you to do. I have a similar "anecdotal" story about SSRIs. Ask questions, be skeptical, use your own best judgment when pharma or politicians tell you what to do with your body IMO. There's nothing about it.

It's when you weigh opinions from crackpots (or yourself in most cases, we generally don't know enough about any of these things) equally against those of actual experts.

There's usually a grey area between black and white. Seeking out information is a sign of intelligence, not . I say this with a great deal of respect for you, because I think that you're really smart and I often take your information as a learning opportunity. I think living in absolute right/wrong mindset has it's disadvantages. I personally like to think that I also don't know enough, but my opinion sways with more information, and I don't make decisions quickly (as you know, I have the same car I bought four years ago only because my other (MK6 TDI) was bought back for emissions violations. I'd still have the MK6 now and probably be very happy with it. I'm like that with my vaccination as well, I know that it reduces my likelihood of serious injury from Covid; however, there is no way that injecting that concoction into my arm is risk free, or has some health effect. So I wait, sani in car, medical masks everywhere, and social distancing like a champ. I hold my breath when walking through a crowd and mask on, it's cool with me. When I see how people fair fully vaccinated over a few years then I'll decide where my risks lie, and I may get vacced sooner if the spread rate becomes alarming to me locally, but until then I'm okay with laying low. Why is that such a problem for absolute thinkers? How did I become to blame for the spread of covid? I've never had it, and I don't think I'm unhealthy enough to get hospitalized if I do get it... So does that make me a dumb Trump supporter??? I don't even like the guy... The only thing he did that I like is keep the economy open, and go four years without starting a war (which in my opinion is miraculous with a mouth like his )

[D Griff]

Finished off that meal with some pineapple that was in the freezer for like 20 minutes.. so fucking good. Time to walk.

I just took the for a walk after a late lunch. Good thing because the skies have now opened up.

[D Griff]

If somebody told me I needed back surgery, I would go through 10 opinions and try every fking alternative before finally lying on the table.

Same.
That's why it's for someone to blindly follow what a doctor tells you to do. I have a similar "anecdotal" story about SSRIs. Ask questions, be skeptical, use your own best judgment when pharma or politicians tell you what to do with your body IMO. There's nothing about it.

I get so frustrated with medicine as in my experience, the medical professionals regular people have access to don't have/make time to discuss ailments with patients, don't seem to care all that much, and really offer very little info. It's extremely frustrating when something so critical and expensive is so hard to understand. I'm left feeling as though I know less than before I came after most doctor/dental/whatever visits I've had.

I would like to get a new primary care doctor and even that seems near impossible here.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

If somebody told me I needed back surgery, I would go through 10 opinions and try every fking alternative before finally lying on the table.

Same.
That's why it's for someone to blindly follow what a doctor tells you to do. I have a similar "anecdotal" story about SSRIs. Ask questions, be skeptical, use your own best judgment when pharma or politicians tell you what to do with your body IMO. There's nothing about it.

My old man is the type that blindly follows what a doctor tells him. He was distraught over the back surgery thing and it was actually someone he worked with that convinced him to get a second opinion and referred him to the dr he went to.

The thing is, there really wasn't a wrong answer. He did in fact have an injury. There was a good chance that the only way to fix it was surgery. So the first doctor wasn't wrong in recommending surgery. The second doctor noticed that the injury looked like one that he's seen treated successfully with stretching and PT before, so he recommended that first, but did also confirm the first doctor's stance that surgery may be the only remedy. Fortunately it wasn't, but it's a lesson that professional opinions can differ slightly but both be not wrong.