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troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:08 pmThe potential problem is that those people keep the virus circulating enough for it to mutate such that current vaccines become ineffective...D Griff wrote:At a certain point, fuck the rural communities. If you are unwilling to get a free vaccine and you are also unwilling to social distance/practice other precautions, than you are knowingly accepting the risks, whether you care to admit that or not. I don't have any real issue with that choice, but I also won't have a ton of pity if it doesn't go well for them.
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So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
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It's because America has turned it's back on Godrazr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
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Looks like they're still investigating the matter.razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-aims-t ... 1619547836
With that said, the virus's origin stemming from an animal of some kind makes sense. I think the majority of epidemics in history have been traced back to an initial animal-human transmission. The bubonic plague came from rats, AIDS came from monkeys, etc.
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Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor (Latin: novacula Occami), or the principle of parsimony or law of parsimony (Latin: lex parsimoniae) is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity", or more simply, the simplest explanation is usually the right one.razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
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I guess I'm not enough of a cuck to be included on your little list? That's ok. Socialists making lists tend to end in genocide, happy to stay off it.wap wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:03 pm Updating to add Dirk Divebomber, esq.
SECOND DOSE ONLY (or DOSE for J&J)
Moderna:
5 total.
3 peeps with zero to very minimal reactions
2 with fatigue, soreness, and significant body aches beginning the evening of the 2nd shot and progressing to the point where one didn't come into work and the other one left early (these are both coworkers).
Pfizer:
16 total.
3 zero reaction.
9 minimal to moderate (headache, fatigue) I include myself, Griff, Zilch, , Coogles and Desert Man. I never had a headache yet, but did feel a bit fatigued the morning after.
2 fairly bad, 1 starting with elevated heart rate and progressing the next day to a full day of extreme fatigue, significant body pain, cold sweats, headache. Totally fine by the third day. 1 with fatigue, nausea, muscle and full body aches that night into the next day. Fine by the day after that.
1 (bossbro) VERY BAD. Got it Monday morning, didn't come back to work. Came in Tuesday but left early feeling very fatigued, achy, etc. Stayed home yesterday and today so far.
1 needed 1 day off feeling fatigued and some soreness. Came back to work second day mostly fine.
One-and-done J&J:
2 total.
1 with extreme fatigue for almost 24 hours (described as like being on Nyquil all day). Came back to work the next day. 1 (our own Huckleberry) with chills and fever.
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I know you posted that you got the J&J, but did you mention any side effects if at all? I saw your post but it may have gotten lost in old brain.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:47 amI guess I'm not enough of a cuck to be included on your little list? That's ok. Socialists making lists tend to end in genocide, happy to stay off it.wap wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:03 pm Updating to add Dirk Divebomber, esq.
SECOND DOSE ONLY (or DOSE for J&J)
Moderna:
5 total.
3 peeps with zero to very minimal reactions
2 with fatigue, soreness, and significant body aches beginning the evening of the 2nd shot and progressing to the point where one didn't come into work and the other one left early (these are both coworkers).
Pfizer:
16 total.
3 zero reaction.
9 minimal to moderate (headache, fatigue) I include myself, Griff, Zilch, , Coogles and Desert Man. I never had a headache yet, but did feel a bit fatigued the morning after.
2 fairly bad, 1 starting with elevated heart rate and progressing the next day to a full day of extreme fatigue, significant body pain, cold sweats, headache. Totally fine by the third day. 1 with fatigue, nausea, muscle and full body aches that night into the next day. Fine by the day after that.
1 (bossbro) VERY BAD. Got it Monday morning, didn't come back to work. Came in Tuesday but left early feeling very fatigued, achy, etc. Stayed home yesterday and today so far.
1 needed 1 day off feeling fatigued and some soreness. Came back to work second day mostly fine.
One-and-done J&J:
2 total.
1 with extreme fatigue for almost 24 hours (described as like being on Nyquil all day). Came back to work the next day. 1 (our own Huckleberry) with chills and fever.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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I did. they were vv mild. just tired af day after, but could have also been due to external jerb stress.razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:59 amI know you posted that you got the J&J, but did you mention any side effects if at all? I saw your post but it may have gotten lost in old brain.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:47 am
I guess I'm not enough of a cuck to be included on your little list? That's ok. Socialists making lists tend to end in genocide, happy to stay off it.
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I don’t think I got counted in the tally… got my second Pfizer shot back in January, felt like GARBAGE that night, major body aches, headache, fever up to 101.9, nausea, couldn’t eat for 24+ hours. Next day felt fine once I ate.
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Melon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:03 amIt's because America has turned it's back on Godrazr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
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Added!
Must have missed your post back then.
Updating to add Haley.
SECOND DOSE ONLY (or DOSE for J&J)
Moderna:
5 total.
3 peeps with zero to very minimal reactions
2 with fatigue, soreness, and significant body aches beginning the evening of the 2nd shot and progressing to the point where one didn't come into work and the other one left early (these are both coworkers).
Pfizer:
17 total.
3 zero reaction.
9 minimal to moderate (headache, fatigue) I include myself, Griff, Zilch, , Coogles and Desert Man. I never had a headache yet, but did feel a bit fatigued the morning after.
3 fairly bad, 1 starting with elevated heart rate and progressing the next day to a full day of extreme fatigue, significant body pain, cold sweats, headache. Totally fine by the third day. 2, including Haley, with fatigue, nausea, headache, muscle and full body aches/fever that night into the next day. Fine by the day after that.
1 (bossbro) VERY BAD. Got it Monday morning, didn't come back to work. Came in Tuesday but left early feeling very fatigued, achy, etc. Stayed home yesterday and today so far.
1 needed 1 day off feeling fatigued and some soreness. Came back to work second day mostly fine.
One-and-done J&J:
2 total.
1 with extreme fatigue for almost 24 hours (described as like being on Nyquil all day). Came back to work the next day. 1 (our own Huckleberry) with chills and fever.
4zilch wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:47 amrazr390 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:11 pm So let’s make this interesting. Not denying covid as a thing, obviously it is real and people are suffering.
But, what say the forum about the origin of the actual virus? Do you believe that the wet market was the true source, or do you think the Wuhan virology lab that was working on active coronavirus research fucked up and it broke out of the lab for whatever reason (accidental, etc). ?
I’m more inclined to believe that the lab had safety issues and they fucked something up that caused it to break out. It makes the most sense if you follow the science. Ofc I wouldn’t trust any government let alone China’s to admit that. When the entire world needed made in China PPE, I’m sure most governments played along to China’s guitar in terms of shutting the hell up.
Not really I just think it’s way easier to fuck up some safety protocol in a lab with active viruses than a bat to bite a pangolin that made its way thousands of miles to some wet market.
There is nothing to be gained by worrying about this stuff, what's done is done. Move on and think about shit that is less stressful/more fun/productive.
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wap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:40 amAdded!
Must have missed your post back then.
Updating to add Haley.
SECOND DOSE ONLY (or DOSE for J&J)
Moderna:
5 total.
3 peeps with zero to very minimal reactions
2 with fatigue, soreness, and significant body aches beginning the evening of the 2nd shot and progressing to the point where one didn't come into work and the other one left early (these are both coworkers).
Pfizer:
17 total.
3 zero reaction.
9 minimal to moderate (headache, fatigue) I include myself, Griff, Zilch, , Coogles and Desert Man. I never had a headache yet, but did feel a bit fatigued the morning after.
3 fairly bad, 1 starting with elevated heart rate and progressing the next day to a full day of extreme fatigue, significant body pain, cold sweats, headache. Totally fine by the third day. 2, including Haley, with fatigue, nausea, headache, muscle and full body aches/fever that night into the next day. Fine by the day after that.
1 (bossbro) VERY BAD. Got it Monday morning, didn't come back to work. Came in Tuesday but left early feeling very fatigued, achy, etc. Stayed home yesterday and today so far.
1 needed 1 day off feeling fatigued and some soreness. Came back to work second day mostly fine.
One-and-done J&J:
2 total.
1 with extreme fatigue for almost 24 hours (described as like being on Nyquil all day). Came back to work the next day. 1 (our own Huckleberry) with chills and fever.
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Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:18 pmwap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:40 am
Added!
Must have missed your post back then.
Updating to add Haley.
SECOND DOSE ONLY (or DOSE for J&J)
Moderna:
5 total.
3 peeps with zero to very minimal reactions
2 with fatigue, soreness, and significant body aches beginning the evening of the 2nd shot and progressing to the point where one didn't come into work and the other one left early (these are both coworkers).
Pfizer:
17 total.
3 zero reaction.
9 minimal to moderate (headache, fatigue) I include myself, Griff, Zilch, , Coogles and Desert Man. I never had a headache yet, but did feel a bit fatigued the morning after.
3 fairly bad, 1 starting with elevated heart rate and progressing the next day to a full day of extreme fatigue, significant body pain, cold sweats, headache. Totally fine by the third day. 2, including Haley, with fatigue, nausea, headache, muscle and full body aches/fever that night into the next day. Fine by the day after that.
1 (bossbro) VERY BAD. Got it Monday morning, didn't come back to work. Came in Tuesday but left early feeling very fatigued, achy, etc. Stayed home yesterday and today so far.
1 needed 1 day off feeling fatigued and some soreness. Came back to work second day mostly fine.
One-and-done J&J:
2 total.
1 with extreme fatigue for almost 24 hours (described as like being on Nyquil all day). Came back to work the next day. 1 (our own Huckleberry) with chills and fever.
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Wap, did you add Brad j&j? He had minor side effects with the j&j and thought it was cuz he worked more that day.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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Ah yes, so smug. You are like the 4th seat on a radio show. You have no original ideas or content. Whenever you post it's just to parrot, affirm, or virtue signal to the mob.
This one slightly useful bit of original content you are attempting to compile is now flawed and less useful to the community because of your complete inability to do anything other than signal to the mob that you dislike me. Just like most liberal cucks you cannot help but to divide people into smaller and smaller groups based on whatever reason you can. It makes it easier to dismiss the opinions and feelings of those groups as a whole later based on your warped logic & accompanying value system.
I have pity for younger people that exhibit this behavior, they still have time to grow, learn, and become full adults. Someone your age should know better than to continue acting like a child. At least you didn't pass these values to the next generation.
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