OT 18: Anti-Social Distancing

[wap]

Oh man, I replaced so many sash cords over the years. Kind of a satisfying project once the windows work correctly again. I'm actually a bit that you can even find new sash cord in the hardware store. I thought it'd be a bit like trying to buy a buggy whip, but I guess there are still enough old houses around to justify the continued manufacture of it.
Question, are you replacing with actual new cord (cotton rope) or chain? I've heard that cord actually lasts longer than chain so I've been using cord. I guess that's believable based on how many original cords I still have that haven't broken yet after 114 years. , really.

When we bought the house, I identified a number of windows that needed the sash cords replaced. I put it off until quarantine when I was stuck in the office with both windows inop. I went to the local Ace, and not only did they have "sash cord" in the rope section, but they also had "sash chain" by the foot in the hardware section. The chain would have been triple the price of the cotton/nylon (it's a blend with a nylon core and cotton outter), so I just went with the cord. After doing it, the chain would have been much more of a pain, so I'm happy with my decision. There's tons of old houses in our area, so I suspect this might be unique to our area.

My windows are a mega bitch to get at the weights though. The only access doors are on the outter window channel, which have been painted shut for decades. After scraping paint off, getting the access doors out was a PITA, and putting them back in was even worse. One window I need to repair because I broke it, and fortunately found some old window channel under the porch (where there's tons of ancient scrapwood from building the house). I'm debating if it's worth the hassle of repairing, or if we should just replace the windows on the 2nd floor. They're old AF, but nothing special. In decent shape, but require quite a bit of work. In addition, someone put storm windows on in the 80's, and they've weathered pretty poorly. Replacing the windows would be a nice improvement. Probably $10k

Yea I hate when I break those little access panels. They require some work to get them out but I found a small pry bar and a screw driver usually works with minimal damage.

[wap]

A whole attic fan is fantastic at this. Got one that was installed 67 years ago that works like a fucking champ. Pulls in air strongly from every open window in the house.

They do work great, just take up a lot of space. We don't have anywhere practical to put one.

Ours is just in the ceiling in the upstairs hallway. Totally unfinished attic,

[wap]

Looks like the office is going to start moving people back in starting on June 8th, with additional waves of people going back in July and August based on how June works out.
I’ll have to put shoes on to work.

[wap]

A whole attic fan is fantastic at this. Got one that was installed 67 years ago that works like a fucking champ. Pulls in air strongly from every open window in the house.

It was put in in 1953. The lady we bought the house from told us the story. She was pregnant that year and it was a HOT summer (confirmed by my mom who also remembers that summer being hot), so they put in the fan.

[wap]

I've only seen a few houses down here with an attic fan, it's an interesting piece of equipment.
Such whoosh.

Not really useful with our liquid lava air climate. Central HVAC has taken over since the 70's.

Yea, not as usable down there, I would imagine. We mostly use it at night when the temps drop to bring in the cooler air. By mid-late summer, when even the nights are in the 80's and humid we don't use it.

[4zilch]

Looks like the office is going to start moving people back in starting on June 8th, with additional waves of people going back in July and August based on how June works out.
I’ll have to put shoes on to work.

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

[Apex]

Looks like the office is going to start moving people back in starting on June 8th, with additional waves of people going back in July and August based on how June works out.
I’ll have to put shoes on to work.

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

My old place is saying September too.

The new gig has super old school s running the place that still don’t believe in WFH.

[Melon]

Looks like the office is going to start moving people back in starting on June 8th, with additional waves of people going back in July and August based on how June works out.
I’ll have to put shoes on to work.

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

Does this change much for you?

No traveling until the end of September?

[Apex]

I’m going to miss my current dress code:
No shirt.
No shoes.
No problem.

[4zilch]

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

Does this change much for you?

No traveling until the end of September?

No, not really.

We haven't received any specific guidance on travel, but speculation is that we won't travel until August/September at the earliest. And probably no air travel before the end of the year.

[dubshow]

Defend your franchise

https://www.wafb.com/2020/05/27/update- ... -employee/

HARVEY, La. (WVUE) -The Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office has made an arrest in the brutal attack of an employee at Little Caesar’s Pizza in Harvey.

Police arrested Tyrone Constant around midnight near the intersection of Manhattan and LaPalco Blvd.

Constant was identified as the suspect in the May 23 machete attack in the 1600 block of Gretna Blvd. in which a 20-year-old woman suffered multiple severe lacerations to her face and head.

The victim, Jazmyn Fradieu, is now home recovering from severe wounds to her face, back, shoulders, and other areas of her body.

[dubshow]

I’m going to miss my current dress code:
No shirt.
No shoes.
No problem.

Ive donned tshirt and flops at the office a number of days. No one here anyway.

[dubshow]

It was put in in 1953. The lady we bought the house from told us the story. She was pregnant that year and it was a HOT summer (confirmed by my mom who also remembers that summer being hot), so they put in the fan.

I was about to not believe your transcendence of time. Carry on elder Trudy.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Yea, you guys NEED central AC. No way around that.

Some say, you're still sweating from that day in June.

Misery.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

When we bought the house, I identified a number of windows that needed the sash cords replaced. I put it off until quarantine when I was stuck in the office with both windows inop. I went to the local Ace, and not only did they have "sash cord" in the rope section, but they also had "sash chain" by the foot in the hardware section. The chain would have been triple the price of the cotton/nylon (it's a blend with a nylon core and cotton outter), so I just went with the cord. After doing it, the chain would have been much more of a pain, so I'm happy with my decision. There's tons of old houses in our area, so I suspect this might be unique to our area.

My windows are a mega bitch to get at the weights though. The only access doors are on the outter window channel, which have been painted shut for decades. After scraping paint off, getting the access doors out was a PITA, and putting them back in was even worse. One window I need to repair because I broke it, and fortunately found some old window channel under the porch (where there's tons of ancient scrapwood from building the house). I'm debating if it's worth the hassle of repairing, or if we should just replace the windows on the 2nd floor. They're old AF, but nothing special. In decent shape, but require quite a bit of work. In addition, someone put storm windows on in the 80's, and they've weathered pretty poorly. Replacing the windows would be a nice improvement. Probably $10k

Yea I hate when I break those little access panels. They require some work to get them out but I found a small pry bar and a screw driver usually works with minimal damage.

Mine were CAKED with paint. I was replacing the original cords from 110 years ago, so it took a lot of persuasion to get the panels out. I actually ended up cutting the paint as much as I could, and whacking it with a hammer to loosen. The one I broke had no hope of being removed without damage.

In hindsight, I should have used the oscillating saw to cut new panels in the sash channels. Would have been faster and cleaner. That's what I'll do going forward, there's only a few more that need to be fixed.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

They do work great, just take up a lot of space. We don't have anywhere practical to put one.

Ours is just in the ceiling in the upstairs hallway. Totally unfinished attic,

Yea, we have a somewhat finished attic, so there really isn't a good place to put the fan.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Looks like the office is going to start moving people back in starting on June 8th, with additional waves of people going back in July and August based on how June works out.
I’ll have to put shoes on to work.

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

That's how my company is treating it too. They forced everyone to take a "returning to work" online training course, and the first wave is

1.) No less than 2 hours before work, you must take you temp and log it along with other answers to questions in an app
2.) When you get to work, the app is checked by a security official, and you're given a mask, gloves, AND safety glasses to wear...you cannot bring your own
3.) All of the above must be worn 100% of the time
4.) All meeting rooms and general congregation areas are closed and locked
5.) No in person meetings allowed, even if in the office, remote meetings are required
6.) Get work done and GTFO

The only reason I'd go back to the office is to attend in person meetings at the design area and engineering labs. Since all that's closed, it's going to be A WHILE until I go back.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

My old place is saying September too.

The new gig has super old school s running the place that still don’t believe in WFH.

You might be surprised. I've been saying the same thing for a while, and my team has been told to expect no return to work date yet.

My bosses must be losing it, assuming we're all off ing and not working like we're supposed to be.

[troyguitar]

We just got an email today that basically said the general population wont return to the office until September at the earliest.

Currently we're allowing those who are required to be there for their function, and just starting to let those that need the office to be able to a portion of their function - basically if they need software or equipment that isn't accessible via home-office - they go in, do what they need to do, then

That's how my company is treating it too. They forced everyone to take a "returning to work" online training course, and the first wave is

1.) No less than 2 hours before work, you must take you temp and log it along with other answers to questions in an app
2.) When you get to work, the app is checked by a security official, and you're given a mask, gloves, AND safety glasses to wear...you cannot bring your own
3.) All of the above must be worn 100% of the time
4.) All meeting rooms and general congregation areas are closed and locked
5.) No in person meetings allowed, even if in the office, remote meetings are required
6.) Get work done and GTFO

The only reason I'd go back to the office is to attend in person meetings at the design area and engineering labs. Since all that's closed, it's going to be A WHILE until I go back.

Why even go in at all with those restrictions?

[MexicanYarisTK]

deets about your

We live in a area about 10 miles northwest of downtown Detroit. One of the more desirable cities, it's just 6 streets and tough to get into.

is 2.4k sq ft, which is WAY too big for just us, but we wanted the area and our house is one of the smallest. It was also built in 1910, and we're suckers for old houses. It's a classic prairie style 4 square with 10 foot ceilings and old growth oak woodwork everywhere. We're on .27 of an acre, which that lot size is what drew us to the area in the first place, massive for the "city".

We paid $420k for it almost 2 years ago now, which was decently below market value. Then I built a garagehaul last year (the old garage was falling down), and that's what the city into thinking our house is worth $550k.

Ok that's not bad. I was looking around houses basically up to 10 mins outside of DC and found this. I know zillow is basically inaccurate, but not far off either.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2257 ... 7330_zpid/

and this this time around
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5944 ... 1669_zpid/

[ChrisoftheNorth]

That's how my company is treating it too. They forced everyone to take a "returning to work" online training course, and the first wave is

1.) No less than 2 hours before work, you must take you temp and log it along with other answers to questions in an app
2.) When you get to work, the app is checked by a security official, and you're given a mask, gloves, AND safety glasses to wear...you cannot bring your own
3.) All of the above must be worn 100% of the time
4.) All meeting rooms and general congregation areas are closed and locked
5.) No in person meetings allowed, even if in the office, remote meetings are required
6.) Get work done and GTFO

The only reason I'd go back to the office is to attend in person meetings at the design area and engineering labs. Since all that's closed, it's going to be A WHILE until I go back.

Why even go in at all with those restrictions?

Some people have to. Plant workers can't build cars at home. Engineers need access to high power computers, build prototypes, test vehicles, etc.

Me as a ppt jocky, won't be going into the office for a while. I'm actually not even allowed in.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

We live in a area about 10 miles northwest of downtown Detroit. One of the more desirable cities, it's just 6 streets and tough to get into.

is 2.4k sq ft, which is WAY too big for just us, but we wanted the area and our house is one of the smallest. It was also built in 1910, and we're suckers for old houses. It's a classic prairie style 4 square with 10 foot ceilings and old growth oak woodwork everywhere. We're on .27 of an acre, which that lot size is what drew us to the area in the first place, massive for the "city".

We paid $420k for it almost 2 years ago now, which was decently below market value. Then I built a garagehaul last year (the old garage was falling down), and that's what the city into thinking our house is worth $550k.

Ok that's not bad. I was looking around houses basically up to 10 mins outside of DC and found this. I know zillow is basically inaccurate, but not far off either.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2257 ... 7330_zpid/

and this this time around
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5944 ... 1669_zpid/

Dang. I had no idea how expensive that area is.

[troyguitar]

Why even go in at all with those restrictions?

Some people have to. Plant workers can't build cars at home. Engineers need access to high power computers, build prototypes, test vehicles, etc.

Me as a ppt jocky, won't be going into the office for a while. I'm actually not even allowed in.

Ahhh that's better. People who don't need to be there shouldn't be allowed in, that's exactly the way to do it.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Some people have to. Plant workers can't build cars at home. Engineers need access to high power computers, build prototypes, test vehicles, etc.

Me as a ppt jocky, won't be going into the office for a while. I'm actually not even allowed in.

Ahhh that's better. People who don't need to be there shouldn't be allowed in, that's exactly the way to do it.

You have to have a specific job reason to go into the office. We've been told we don't have any reasons at this time and to stay home.

Fine by me. In fact, I think this should be the norm. I'd be fine going in just once or twice a week just for my meetings and bail.

[Apex]

My old place is saying September too.

The new gig has super old school s running the place that still don’t believe in WFH.

You might be surprised. I've been saying the same thing for a while, and my team has been told to expect no return to work date yet.

My bosses must be losing it, assuming we're all off ing and not working like we're supposed to be.

My boss has been very forthcoming whenever I ask him about this stuff. He and I are on the same page I think.

We’ll see what happens.