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wap wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 pm First town that came to mind was Asheville, NC. Seems like a college town with good restaurants,etc, but COL may be

Big Brain Bradley wrote:

wap wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 pm First town that came to mind was Asheville, NC. Seems like a college town with good restaurants,etc, but COL may be

You described Asheville

troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:46 pm

Big Brain Bradley wrote:


You described Asheville

Yep, as long as you're a trust fund kid or a vegan taco farmer.

haleyann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:29 pm Depends on your definition of warm.... but the rest of your priorities are easily found in the northwest. Portland metro, Seattle metro, Spokane, Salem, Bend all have those things. Walkability depends on which neighborhood, but there’s never a shortage of outdoor adventures, bike and coffee cultures are huge here, and the bigger cities like I listed are more politically diverse than the rest of the states. The eastern cities (Spokane and Bend) have less rain year round but more snow in the winter.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:35 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:34 pm Looking for a place to live and work with the following qualities in order of importance:

1) Cold is OK but warm by March or April

2) Outdoor or cycling culture

3) Close to outdoor activities

4) Walkable

5) Close to nature

6) Good food and restaurants

7) Has a town center or downtown area

8) House doesn't have a huge amount of land (can probably find this anywhere though)

9) Not completely in Trump land. Mix of dem/rep preferred.

10) Good coffee shop(s)


You guys have any recommendations that hit most/all of those? Or even just the top 5?
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D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:54 pm Honestly, Charlotte dude. Way lower COL than where you're at, the US Whitewater Center has the most trails in the country and we're close to mountains, there are tons of jobs, good weather.

wap wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 pm First town that came to mind was Asheville, NC. Seems like a college town with good restaurants,etc, but COL may be

[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:28 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:55 pm

Lived there once before. It was a nice little city.

TBH, I’ve really fallen in love with PGH.

It’s a cool city with a solid downtown and plenty of recreational areas surrounding it.

D Griff wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:38 am

[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:28 am

TBH, I’ve really fallen in love with PGH.

It’s a cool city with a solid downtown and plenty of recreational areas surrounding it.

Oh yeah. It’s so beautiful there with all of the hills and the rivers and everything is cheaper. I don’t know about the bike trails and stuff but I’d imagine they are around considering there are woods everywhere.

Asheville has indeed gotten very expensive. I love going there but am glad I live in more of a “real city” I think.

How about the Salt Lake City area? Outdoor things off the charts there and it’s very beautiful and affordable. My company just bought a pretty cool tech company out there, PM me if you’re interested in applying and I’ll send you details. Lots of engineering jobs I’m told.

haleyann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:29 pm Depends on your definition of warm.... but the rest of your priorities are easily found in the northwest. Portland metro, Seattle metro, Spokane, Salem, Bend all have those things. Walkability depends on which neighborhood, but there’s never a shortage of outdoor adventures, bike and coffee cultures are huge here, and the bigger cities like I listed are more politically diverse than the rest of the states. The eastern cities (Spokane and Bend) have less rain year round but more snow in the winter.

[user not found] wrote:

troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:17 am Pittsburgh is indeed pretty nice for 6 months a year. I think that I'd do OK there because of hockey, but IIRC you're not a winter sports bro? Charlotte seems hard to beat if you can't afford SF.

Denver is treated as mecca for many outdoors people, might be worth a look.

Pittsburgh's winter gets a bad wrap. They get a decent amount of small snow storms because of the lake but it doesn't get THAT cold and the winter is it mid-December through St Patrick's day. Come second week of April you can put your summer wheels on.

LOTS of growing tech industries as well as more "traditional" industry. Health care sector growing incredibly fast. Cheap COL but all the hippy and tech bro stuff you could want. Minutes from the Mountains both for car fun and bikes.

It's a great place.

troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:58 am

[user not found] wrote:
Pittsburgh's winter gets a bad wrap. They get a decent amount of small snow storms because of the lake but it doesn't get THAT cold and the winter is it mid-December through St Patrick's day. Come second week of April you can put your summer wheels on.

LOTS of growing tech industries as well as more "traditional" industry. Health care sector growing incredibly fast. Cheap COL but all the hippy and tech bro stuff you could want. Minutes from the Mountains both for car fun and bikes.

It's a great place.

Sure you can take off the snow tires but you still aren't going to be enjoying being outside in April. They stupidly schedule autox events there at that time and it's almost always 40-some degrees and raining, maybe 60 for an hour in the afternoon if you're lucky... people show up anyway because it's been 6 months since they got to drive.

Compare that to the March events in Charlotte where it's sunny and 60s, maybe even 70 for a high. Both places are 90 and humid in the summer too, you just get a 50% longer season in NC at no extra cost.

After living in KY I don't understand why anyone lives in the North.

[user not found] wrote:

troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:58 am Sure you can take off the snow tires but you still aren't going to be enjoying being outside in April. They stupidly schedule autox events there at that time and it's almost always 40-some degrees and raining, maybe 60 for an hour in the afternoon if you're lucky... people show up anyway because it's been 6 months since they got to drive.

Compare that to the March events in Charlotte where it's sunny and 60s, maybe even 70 for a high. Both places are 90 and humid in the summer too, you just get a 50% longer season in NC at no extra cost.

After living in KY I don't understand why anyone lives in the North.

Some of us love the cold? Real cold, like lower 20s.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:45 pm Winter jacket doesn't come out until teens.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:09 pm

troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:58 am Sure you can take off the snow tires but you still aren't going to be enjoying being outside in April. They stupidly schedule autox events there at that time and it's almost always 40-some degrees and raining, maybe 60 for an hour in the afternoon if you're lucky... people show up anyway because it's been 6 months since they got to drive.

Compare that to the March events in Charlotte where it's sunny and 60s, maybe even 70 for a high. Both places are 90 and humid in the summer too, you just get a 50% longer season in NC at no extra cost.

After living in KY I don't understand why anyone lives in the North.

Some of us love the cold? Real cold, like lower 20s.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:09 pm

troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:58 am Sure you can take off the snow tires but you still aren't going to be enjoying being outside in April. They stupidly schedule autox events there at that time and it's almost always 40-some degrees and raining, maybe 60 for an hour in the afternoon if you're lucky... people show up anyway because it's been 6 months since they got to drive.

Compare that to the March events in Charlotte where it's sunny and 60s, maybe even 70 for a high. Both places are 90 and humid in the summer too, you just get a 50% longer season in NC at no extra cost.

After living in KY I don't understand why anyone lives in the North.

Some of us love the cold? Real cold, like lower 20s.

D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:54 pm Honestly, Charlotte dude. Way lower COL than where you're at, the US Whitewater Center has the most trails in the country and we're close to mountains, there are tons of jobs, good weather.