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:wasteful: should find a local blacksmith and get a set of custom blades made.
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Anyone have experience with Miyabi knives?

I've got a friend that uses them and seems to like them. I'll ask more probing questions I guess. They're beautiful. Kind of needlessly expensive but if I only need two chef/prep knives total...

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/miyabi-b ... fe-p126657

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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:34 am
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:55 pm

Noted. My stuff right now is Walmart specials that are chewed up from too many whirly go round trips in the garbage disposal. They’re all bent like special Olympic runner legs.
also, whatever you get, put 2 sets on the registry.

1. One set is never enough when you have a party
2. Even if no one buys you the 2nd set everything you put on registry at BB&B is 20% off your first year of marriage..
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:50 am We have this stuff, it seems pretty nice. The "butter" knives are strong and sharp enough that I don't own steak knives. If you can't cut it with the butter knife, it's too tough to be worth eating.

https://www.amazon.com/Gorham-Biscayne- ... B0041RMNRG

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I like these :megusta:
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I know these aren't really cheap, but they also aren't crazy expensive in the grand scheme. After 30 years of owning what I thought were "good" kitchen knives I think I've found some good ones.

I've had Wusthof and Henckels knives, buying the $400-600 block sets and have always ended up disappointed due to the blades being very thin, and/or not very well hardened so they don't hold an edge long and will chip if you try using them like you would expect. Early last year I bought some DALSTRONG knives on Amazon and was pretty amazed at the quality. Check them out, they have different lines. I got them to complement my current Wusthof set that has issues with some bigger jobs.

Also, for steak knives do not buy a serrated set. Get something you can sharpen, or you might as well just use plastic knives you throw away.

https://dalstrong.com/collections/all-knives

These are the ones I got:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072M ... UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E2 ... UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XM ... UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LW ... UTF8&psc=1

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My advice: Put a normal block set on your list, then add some individual knives you really want.
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Those Dalstrong knives look nice. And aren't priced too high. :notbad:
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Desertbreh wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:08 am I have built a set of Shuns that are bad ass. Put a quality electric sharpener on the list, it'll be about $150.


Whatever you do, get a pair of CUTCO kitchen scissors. The best kitchen scissors in the world by a large margin. Had a pair for over 20 years that is as good as the day I bought it.

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Deets/pics of your japanese katanas?
I just found this brand today, they seem like really nice stuff.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:50 am We have this stuff, it seems pretty nice. The "butter" knives are strong and sharp enough that I don't own steak knives. If you can't cut it with the butter knife, it's too tough to be worth eating.

https://www.amazon.com/Gorham-Biscayne- ... B0041RMNRG

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I like these :megusta:
FWIW the handles are a bit on the heavy side, especially the knives. Most people like that, others don't. We went to BBB and picked up everything to feel and see it in person. That set has been really good for us so far :doe: for not that much :troywax:
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:30 am Those Dalstrong knives look nice. And aren't priced too high. :notbad:
:dat: I was expecting them to be more expensive.
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SAWCE wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:30 am Those Dalstrong knives look nice. And aren't priced too high. :notbad:
:dat: I was expecting them to be more expensive.
They are a great deal and are holding up very well.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am Anyone have experience with Miyabi knives?

I've got a friend that uses them and seems to like them. I'll ask more probing questions I guess. They're beautiful. Kind of needlessly expensive but if I only need two chef/prep knives total...

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/miyabi-b ... fe-p126657

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Here is a Miyabi that is only $199. Your birchwood handle is pricey.

https://www.amazon.com/Miyabi-Mizu-Chef ... pons&psc=1

The Shuns I have are of a similar design.....which is elegant. They are a pleasure to use on a daily basis and that makes them worth the money. I bought the woman one for Christmas back in 2011......it was a hit so I just bought one every year and now we have a block full. You can buy them by the set. Nice knives like these are going to be an attractive thing on the registry for your male guests. I'd sure as hell rather buy you one of these than a place setting.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:22 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am Anyone have experience with Miyabi knives?

I've got a friend that uses them and seems to like them. I'll ask more probing questions I guess. They're beautiful. Kind of needlessly expensive but if I only need two chef/prep knives total...

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/miyabi-b ... fe-p126657

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:jimp:
Here is a Miyabi that is only $199. Your birchwood handle is pricey.

https://www.amazon.com/Miyabi-Mizu-Chef ... pons&psc=1

The Shuns I have are of a similar design.....which is elegant. They are a pleasure to use on a daily basis and that makes them worth the money. I bought the woman one for Christmas back in 2011......it was a hit so I just bought one every year and now we have a block full. You can buy them by the set. Nice knives like these are going to be an attractive thing on the registry for your male guests. I'd sure as hell rather buy you one of these than a place setting.
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yeah that one you linked is nice and a hundo cheaper
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I got some counterfeit wustof knives from Amazon once. Said "shipped and sold by Amazon". Just something to be aware of.


Bob Kramer if you're going :wasteful:
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Edit. You won't get a knife made by him, just his design.


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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am Anyone have experience with Miyabi knives?

I've got a friend that uses them and seems to like them. I'll ask more probing questions I guess. They're beautiful. Kind of needlessly expensive but if I only need two chef/prep knives total...

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/miyabi-b ... fe-p126657

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:jimp:
I bought wifey one about 6 years ago to celebrate her promotion at work in the produce department. She used it in a commercial setting for 18 months, 6 hours a day... it’s a beautiful knife and we still use it now at home. Had to buy a good sharpener for it, because Sur La Table decided after I bought it that they couldn’t sharpen it for me. The thing is amazing.
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fledonfoot wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:32 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am Anyone have experience with Miyabi knives?

I've got a friend that uses them and seems to like them. I'll ask more probing questions I guess. They're beautiful. Kind of needlessly expensive but if I only need two chef/prep knives total...

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/miyabi-b ... fe-p126657

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:jimp:
I bought wifey one about 6 years ago to celebrate her promotion at work in the produce department. She used it in a commercial setting for 18 months, 6 hours a day... it’s a beautiful knife and we still use it now at home. Had to buy a good sharpener for it, because Sur La Table decided after I bought it that they couldn’t sharpen it for me. The thing is amazing.
Ever tried Williams Sonoma for sharpening?
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:28 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:32 pm

I bought wifey one about 6 years ago to celebrate her promotion at work in the produce department. She used it in a commercial setting for 18 months, 6 hours a day... it’s a beautiful knife and we still use it now at home. Had to buy a good sharpener for it, because Sur La Table decided after I bought it that they couldn’t sharpen it for me. The thing is amazing.
Ever tried Williams Sonoma for sharpening?
For certain knives that have non-standard degree edges, they have to send them out. This is one of those knives and I wish it would've been explained to me before I spent $200 on a knife.
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Threw the Shuns on the registry, and a Wusthof bread knife for now. Just the three should be fine. BBB had them all so that's :notbad:

We will end up going to the store to check out silverware and steak knives to see what works best for us and what looks good together.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone :D
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:32 pm
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I like these :megusta:
FWIW the handles are a bit on the heavy side, especially the knives. Most people like that, others don't. We went to BBB and picked up everything to feel and see it in person. That set has been really good for us so far :doe: for not that much :troywax:
Im actually a fan of them. They look quite nice.
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fledonfoot wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:33 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Ever tried Williams Sonoma for sharpening?
For certain knives that have non-standard degree edges, they have to send them out. This is one of those knives and I wish it would've been explained to me before I spent $200 on a knife.
Hold up, you send knives to be sharpened?

I would have just assumed a stone would be able to do it.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 10:45 am
fledonfoot wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:33 pm

For certain knives that have non-standard degree edges, they have to send them out. This is one of those knives and I wish it would've been explained to me before I spent $200 on a knife.
Hold up, you send knives to be sharpened?

I would have just assumed a stone would be able to do it.
No, I bought a set of stones and taught myself how to do it. They machine sharpen knives at Williams Sonoma and Sur La Table, and a traditional edge is typically 20 degrees... some asian knives are 15.
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fledonfoot wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 11:19 am
Barnes93cb wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 10:45 am

Hold up, you send knives to be sharpened?

I would have just assumed a stone would be able to do it.
No, I bought a set of stones and taught myself how to do it. They machine sharpen knives at Williams Sonoma and Sur La Table, and a traditional edge is typically 20 degrees... some asian knives are 15.
Okay so the stones work fine if you know what youre doing.

Ive got some decent knives that I should really learn how to sharpen instead of using that crappy HEB pull sharpener.

https://www.heb.com/product-detail/kitc ... er/1605933
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Barnes93cb wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 1:35 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 11:19 am

No, I bought a set of stones and taught myself how to do it. They machine sharpen knives at Williams Sonoma and Sur La Table, and a traditional edge is typically 20 degrees... some asian knives are 15.
Okay so the stones work fine if you know what youre doing.

Ive got some decent knives that I should really learn how to sharpen instead of using that crappy HEB pull sharpener.

https://www.heb.com/product-detail/kitc ... er/1605933
https://www.amazon.com/ChefsChoice-Edge ... le_kitchen

I also have a manual version of this, which was $50. Works well.
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fledonfoot wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:33 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Ever tried Williams Sonoma for sharpening?
For certain knives that have non-standard degree edges, they have to send them out. This is one of those knives and I wish it would've been explained to me before I spent $200 on a knife.
You can buy a home sharpener with the narrower Japanese angle.
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Shuns were added to the registry, along with some wusthofs to cheapen the herd.

All the silverware at BBB was :gag: worthy. Either satin/matte :disgust: , so light it felt like a plastic imitation piece :disgust: , so thin it was unusable :disgust: , or super elegant :fancy: :disgust:

Where the hell are the normal silverware sets? Where else should one look for these? Macys? I would go to Crate and Barrel, CB2, or whatever but I'm about 90% sure my last set was from there, and they all rusted so bad I threw them all out after 3 years and went back to my garbage disposal battleforks.
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