OT 16: GrandFAP lives!
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:26 pm
Go up to Huntsville and see a full Saturn V in their museum. They have cutaway F1 engines on site too. The engine was incredible. So much thought went into it. The turbine powered fuel pumps and using its exhaust to shield the nozzle from literally melting from the heat of combustion. The fuel plate. How intricate the nozzles are with integrated tubing which had fuel pumped through it to further cool the bell. Crazy shit.
Don’t forget they built this with freaking slide rules...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pmGo up to Huntsville and see a full Saturn V in their museum. They have cutaway F1 engines on site too. The engine was incredible. So much thought went into it. The turbine powered fuel pumps and using its exhaust to shield the nozzle from literally melting from the heat of combustion. The fuel plate. How intricate the nozzles are with integrated tubing which had fuel pumped through it to further cool the bell. Crazy shit.
Apex wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:30 pmDon’t forget they built this with freaking slide rules...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pm
Go up to Huntsville and see a full Saturn V in their museum. They have cutaway F1 engines on site too. The engine was incredible. So much thought went into it. The turbine powered fuel pumps and using its exhaust to shield the nozzle from literally melting from the heat of combustion. The fuel plate. How intricate the nozzles are with integrated tubing which had fuel pumped through it to further cool the bell. Crazy shit.
Eh the rocket was computer controlled and many of the very difficult calculations were done by a supercomputer.Apex wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:30 pmDon’t forget they built this with freaking slide rules...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pm
Go up to Huntsville and see a full Saturn V in their museum. They have cutaway F1 engines on site too. The engine was incredible. So much thought went into it. The turbine powered fuel pumps and using its exhaust to shield the nozzle from literally melting from the heat of combustion. The fuel plate. How intricate the nozzles are with integrated tubing which had fuel pumped through it to further cool the bell. Crazy shit.
The space program would not have been possible without computers. As far back as Gemini NASA was using computers to simulate, help design, and control rockets and mission critical navigation and telemetry equipment. For the Apollo missions, NASA extensively used FORTRAN coding to assist difficult computations, and utilized high powered (at the time) computer arrays in labs across the US and at places such as MIT to simulate missions.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:47 pm
the computer was a hardware computer with hilariously small computing power. Woven by hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V_instrument_unit
Just step down, paint your door white or whatever they want, and ignore them forever.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:07 pm Never live in a fucking HOA. Never. Fucking stupid ass people
Yes. But you said the rocket itself was supercomputer controled...and it was notJohnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:33 pmThe space program would not have been possible without computers. As far back as Gemini NASA was using computers to simulate, help design, and control rockets and mission critical navigation and telemetry equipment. For the Apollo missions, NASA extensively used FORTRAN coding to assist difficult computations, and utilized high powered (at the time) computer arrays in labs across the US and at places such as MIT to simulate missions.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:47 pm
the computer was a hardware computer with hilariously small computing power. Woven by hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V_instrument_unit
https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/ ... kthroughs/
NASA bought five IBM System/360 computers specifically for the Apollo missions.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questio ... 11-mission
Even Rocketdyne was using FORTRAN for all sorts of difficult computations and analysis on the F1.
"All the code I used and developed at that time was in fortran. The fortran programs performed analysis of test firing data, analysis of rocket processes (combustion performance, chemical kinetics, heat transfer, etc) and programs performing spacecraft thermal analysis."
Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:48 pmYes. But you said the rocket itself was supercomputer controled...and it was notJohnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:33 pm
The space program would not have been possible without computers. As far back as Gemini NASA was using computers to simulate, help design, and control rockets and mission critical navigation and telemetry equipment. For the Apollo missions, NASA extensively used FORTRAN coding to assist difficult computations, and utilized high powered (at the time) computer arrays in labs across the US and at places such as MIT to simulate missions.
https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/ ... kthroughs/
NASA bought five IBM System/360 computers specifically for the Apollo missions.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questio ... 11-mission
Even Rocketdyne was using FORTRAN for all sorts of difficult computations and analysis on the F1.
"All the code I used and developed at that time was in fortran. The fortran programs performed analysis of test firing data, analysis of rocket processes (combustion performance, chemical kinetics, heat transfer, etc) and programs performing spacecraft thermal analysis."
Genuinely sorry,I'm in detail mode. Fucking HOA. Never. Again.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:53 pmBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:48 pm
Yes. But you said the rocket itself was supercomputer controled...and it was not
These have been my thoughts for years. Thank you for confirming them.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:07 pm Never live in a fucking HOA. Never. Fucking stupid ass people
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:34 pmJust to the promised lands of TNBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:07 pm Never live in a fucking HOA. Never. Fucking stupid ass people
additional funBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:55 pmGenuinely sorry,I'm in detail mode. Fucking HOA. Never. Again.
That would be sweet!Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:45 am Heard an interview the other day with the head of NASA (I think) on NPR. Really interesting stuff about going to the moon again and then Mars. This time, the moon missions will have the purpose of figuring out how to live and work there so it can be replicated on Mars.
He was saying the goal was to be back on the moon by 2024 and Mars by 2035. Would be so cool to see both events happen in our lifetimes.
4zilch wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:54 amadditional funBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:55 pm
Genuinely sorry,I'm in detail mode. Fucking HOA. Never. Again.
Gene Kranz - Flight Director - was 36 years old and most of the flight controller were in their early to mid-20's.
Kinda mind blowing when we consider how the current work environment tends to de-value young workers
I no rite?Apex wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:54 amThat would be sweet!Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:45 am Heard an interview the other day with the head of NASA (I think) on NPR. Really interesting stuff about going to the moon again and then Mars. This time, the moon missions will have the purpose of figuring out how to live and work there so it can be replicated on Mars.
He was saying the goal was to be back on the moon by 2024 and Mars by 2035. Would be so cool to see both events happen in our lifetimes.
same.