OT 15: New Year, New Poo

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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:24 pm

As you know, money buys happiness.
~$100k household with a free :haus: from Mom and everything you could ever dream of within walking distance full of brotherly love seems like it would be enough for plenty of happiness. We could certainly live on that happily in a good city if someone handed us a free house. :iono:
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:24 pm

As you know, money buys happiness.
~$100k household with a free :haus: from Mom and everything you could ever dream of within walking distance full of brotherly love seems like it would be enough for plenty of happiness. We could certainly live on that happily in a good city if someone handed us a free house. :iono:
House isn't free. But go ahead and think whatever you want to I guess.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:36 pm

~$100k household with a free :haus: from Mom and everything you could ever dream of within walking distance full of brotherly love seems like it would be enough for plenty of happiness. We could certainly live on that happily in a good city if someone handed us a free house. :iono:
House isn't free. But go ahead and think whatever you want to I guess.
I swear you said that her parents bought the house for her.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:21 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pm

House isn't free. But go ahead and think whatever you want to I guess.
I swear you said that her parents bought the house for her.
Her parents loaned her the money for the house. It's paid back like a mortgage would be, with 4% interest. My rent contributes to paying it off. If/when I marry her, we'll have to figure out what we're doing with it. Buying it from them or leaving it.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:36 pm

~$100k household with a free :haus: from Mom and everything you could ever dream of within walking distance full of brotherly love seems like it would be enough for plenty of happiness. We could certainly live on that happily in a good city if someone handed us a free house. :iono:
House isn't free. But go ahead and think whatever you want to I guess.
yea, you pay some small rent IIRC but the GF lives for free to pursue her nonprofit :coffee: :millennial: dreams.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:26 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pm

House isn't free. But go ahead and think whatever you want to I guess.
yea, you pay some small rent IIRC but the GF lives for free to pursue her nonprofit :coffee: :millennial: dreams.
She pays a "mortgage." My rent contributes to that.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:25 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:21 pm

I swear you said that her parents bought the house for her.
Her parents loaned her the money for the house. It's paid back like a mortgage would be, with 4% interest. My rent contributes to paying it off. If/when I marry her, we'll have to figure out what we're doing with it. Buying it from them or leaving it.
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That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:28 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:26 pm

yea, you pay some small rent IIRC but the GF lives for free to pursue her nonprofit :coffee: :millennial: dreams.
She pays a "mortgage." My rent contributes to that.
so what is that number? 2k a month?
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:25 pm

Her parents loaned her the money for the house. It's paid back like a mortgage would be, with 4% interest. My rent contributes to paying it off. If/when I marry her, we'll have to figure out what we're doing with it. Buying it from them or leaving it.
:word:

That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
Yea, but unlike a bank, missed payments won't likely result in foreclosure.

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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:25 pm

Her parents loaned her the money for the house. It's paid back like a mortgage would be, with 4% interest. My rent contributes to paying it off. If/when I marry her, we'll have to figure out what we're doing with it. Buying it from them or leaving it.
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That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
It helps. When she was starting the shop up there were a few months where no payment was made. But yeah, house prices are astronomical here for no good reason, and this house kind of sucks. Really don't know what to do when that time comes.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:30 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:28 pm

She pays a "mortgage." My rent contributes to that.
so what is that number? 2k a month?
Don't remember, I want to say $1400
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm

:word:

That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
Yea, but unlike a bank, missed payments won't likely result in foreclosure.

:millennial:
Which is why they set it up that way.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm

:word:

That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
It helps. When she was starting the shop up there were a few months where no payment was made. But yeah, house prices are astronomical here for no good reason, and this house kind of sucks. Really don't know what to do when that time comes.
Seems like a great opportunity to cash out with some equity. Especially since it sounds like the area has been going nuts. Probably have quite a bit of opportunity in that thing.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm

:word:

That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
It helps. When she was starting the shop up there were a few months where no payment was made. But yeah, house prices are astronomical here for no good reason, and this house kind of sucks. Really don't know what to do when that time comes.
I guess you'll at least get the benefit of massive :alpo: appreciation in the current :haus: which is a fuck ton of cash.

Maybe the way to go is to get a building that can have the coffee shop downstairs and your apartment upstairs, then get a world-saving job after you've saved the :waxer: down payment for it.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm

It helps. When she was starting the shop up there were a few months where no payment was made. But yeah, house prices are astronomical here for no good reason, and this house kind of sucks. Really don't know what to do when that time comes.
I guess you'll at least get the benefit of massive :alpo: appreciation in the current :haus: which is a fuck ton of cash.

Maybe the way to go is to get a building that can have the coffee shop downstairs and your apartment upstairs, then get a world-saving job after you've saved the :waxer: down payment for it.
Would be 5/7.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm

:word:

That's a lot less :alpo: status. Housing is fucking expensive. :sad:
Yea, but unlike a bank, missed payments won't likely result in foreclosure.

:millennial:
Also can't claim the interest payments on taxes.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm
Yea, but unlike a bank, missed payments won't likely result in foreclosure.

:millennial:
Also can't claim the interest payments on taxes.
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:33 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:30 pm

so what is that number? 2k a month?
Don't remember, I want to say $1400
that is fucking hilariously cheap for your area. My fucking airboat land mortgage for pot filler palace is over 1400/month
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:36 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 pm

It helps. When she was starting the shop up there were a few months where no payment was made. But yeah, house prices are astronomical here for no good reason, and this house kind of sucks. Really don't know what to do when that time comes.
I guess you'll at least get the benefit of massive :alpo: appreciation in the current :haus: which is a fuck ton of cash.

Maybe the way to go is to get a building that can have the coffee shop downstairs and your apartment upstairs, then get a world-saving job after you've saved the :waxer: down payment for it.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm
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Yea, but unlike a bank, missed payments won't likely result in foreclosure.

:millennial:
Also can't claim the interest payments on taxes.
A) that never 'saved' people much money altho white ppl are all like "MAH INTEREST DECUCTION!!!!11!1111!!!!!eleven!!"
B) No one really qualifies with the new :thankstrump: tax plan; the vast majority of americans will be living that standard deduction lyfe.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:40 pm
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Also can't claim the interest payments on taxes.
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
Depends on the :haus: price. When you're in a $150k place, the standard deduction will pretty much always be better now but in a $1.5M place it would have likely still helped to itemize.

The new system actually helps home owners in most of the country where housing is still affordable. The higher standard deduction will reduce our federal income tax liability by quite a bit. It only hurts people in really expensive places.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:40 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Also can't claim the interest payments on taxes.
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
even you living the :millennial: DINK life on you halfmillion dollar :wasteful: :millennial: palace likly wont make over 24k dollars in interest payments that would result in itemizing to clam the deduction. (24k isthe new married std deduction IIRC)
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:43 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:40 pm
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
Depends on the :haus: price. When you're in a $150k place, the standard deduction will pretty much always be better now but in a $1.5M place it would have likely still helped to itemize.

The new system actually helps home owners in most of the country where housing is still affordable. The higher standard deduction will reduce our federal income tax liability by quite a bit.
I should look into it a bit more, but I recall that the amount I wrote off last year on our $320k house would have been negated by the standard deduction.

Now that we're in our $420k house, that might be a bit different.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:46 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:40 pm
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
even you living the :millennial: DINK life on you halfmillion dollar :wasteful: :millennial: palace likly wont make over 24k dollars in interest payments that would result in itemizing to clam the deduction. (24k isthe new married std deduction IIRC)
That. The higher standard deduction really is a tax cut for middle class and poor folks.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:46 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:40 pm
Not sure that even matters anymore does it?
even you living the :millennial: DINK life on you halfmillion dollar :wasteful: :millennial: palace likly wont make over 24k dollars in interest payments that would result in itemizing to clam the deduction. (24k isthe new married std deduction IIRC)
We'll be close between interest and property taxes. Probably won't exceed :doe:
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