A lot depends on your realtor association in our experience. Buying and selling in Lexington, KY was a lot different than in Grand Rapids Michigan.
Up here they put a house up for sale for a week before accepting offers, typically after an open house. Then it's basically a slow auction. Selling agent goes back to every original offer and ask if they want to go up because they got out bid. We had to play the game.
In KY, the Realtors were much more buyer friendly. What's a couple grand more on they selling price when you're getting 3%? Freakonomics did a podcast cast on that too. I think their book was a lot of that as well.
Lexington didn't get hammered by the housing crisis, at least home values didn't crater like they did up here. One particular house we looked at in 2013 in GR has nearly doubled. That ain't good.
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Same. This just doesn't exist maybe anywhere. Big garage=big house pretty much everywhere we look. The last house we lost was a with a giant 2.5 car that was 1.5 deep (with ample room to expand) and a 2k sq ft house.troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:11 pm I just want a big garage, a level driveway, and a 1500ish sq ft with good air conditioning in a decently convenient location for an OK price. NFG about river rocks or potfillers...
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Seller's market for sure. It's a terrible buying experience, which turns us off completely.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:57 am A lot depends on your realtor association in our experience. Buying and selling in Lexington, KY was a lot different than in Grand Rapids Michigan.
Up here they put a house up for sale for a week before accepting offers, typically after an open house. Then it's basically a slow auction. Selling agent goes back to every original offer and ask if they want to go up because they got out bid. We had to play the game.
In KY, the Realtors were much more buyer friendly. What's a couple grand more on they selling price when you're getting 3%? Freakonomics did a podcast cast on that too. I think their book was a lot of that as well.
Lexington didn't get hammered by the housing crisis, at least home values didn't crater like they did up here. One particular house we looked at in 2013 in GR has nearly doubled. That ain't good.
We're pretty sure the selling agent or us in both cases didn't even present our offers to his clients as both houses we put offers on aren't listed as pending yet. is and has contacted the listing agent directly posing as a new buyer to see if he says they're available or not. If he says they're available, we can turn him into the local realtor ethic's board apparently. Our realtor buddy said this dude is notorious for screwing over buyers like this and we could take him down.
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Dude's in his 40's, and has multiple crotchfruit. One of his big reasons was moving to a new district with better sports or some shit for the fruit. Made zero sense to me, but it did to him. What a moran.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:26 pmMassive tax penalties to style around. There are things more important in life than fancy kitchens and bathrooms and dat Sunset Magazine life. One is called "freedom." All those motherfuckers in Sunset are loaded. They aren't raiding their 401ks.Detroit wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:08 pm
Anywhere desirable is going to be like this, unfortunately. It's a seller's market everywhere desirable, so you'll pay too much and bend over backwards for a
I know a guy at work that liquidated a good portion of his 401k to buy his wife's "dream house" because they were in the same situation as us where the seller wanted to close asap. That's some shit. Wife and I at least agree on that.
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I'm fortunate that completely sees that the retirement accounts are off limits. She's with me on that one, I told her to assume they don't even exist.
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Do you need DFD to start emailing with inquiries on the house?Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 amSeller's market for sure. It's a terrible buying experience, which turns us off completely.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:57 am A lot depends on your realtor association in our experience. Buying and selling in Lexington, KY was a lot different than in Grand Rapids Michigan.
Up here they put a house up for sale for a week before accepting offers, typically after an open house. Then it's basically a slow auction. Selling agent goes back to every original offer and ask if they want to go up because they got out bid. We had to play the game.
In KY, the Realtors were much more buyer friendly. What's a couple grand more on they selling price when you're getting 3%? Freakonomics did a podcast cast on that too. I think their book was a lot of that as well.
Lexington didn't get hammered by the housing crisis, at least home values didn't crater like they did up here. One particular house we looked at in 2013 in GR has nearly doubled. That ain't good.
We're pretty sure the selling agent or us in both cases didn't even present our offers to his clients as both houses we put offers on aren't listed as pending yet. is and has contacted the listing agent directly posing as a new buyer to see if he says they're available or not. If he says they're available, we can turn him into the local realtor ethic's board apparently. Our realtor buddy said this dude is notorious for screwing over buyers like this and we could take him down.
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Apex wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:55 amDo you need DFD to start emailing with inquiries on the house?Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 am
Seller's market for sure. It's a terrible buying experience, which turns us off completely.
We're pretty sure the selling agent or us in both cases didn't even present our offers to his clients as both houses we put offers on aren't listed as pending yet. is and has contacted the listing agent directly posing as a new buyer to see if he says they're available or not. If he says they're available, we can turn him into the local realtor ethic's board apparently. Our realtor buddy said this dude is notorious for screwing over buyers like this and we could take him down.
Possibly, we'll see if he gets back to
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I like this idea. He'd be so
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Agents have ZERO incentive to encourage a lower that ask offer. Its fucking rage inducing. Hence the games. If both agents are playing the game in cahoots, they just fleece everyone. Why do you think its so common to here "We got full ask!" from sellers. Their selling agent maxes his profits and the buying agent leds cattle to the automatic feeder.
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Especially in this market, it's all just a big scam. Everyone is losing except the realtors benefiting from it.dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:59 amAgents have ZERO incentive to encourage a lower that ask offer. Its fucking rage inducing. Hence the games. If both agents are playing the game in cahoots, they just fleece everyone. Why do you think its so common to here "We got full ask!" from sellers. Their selling agent maxes his profits and the buying agent leds cattle to the automatic feeder.
We do hope to take this listing agent down,
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DFD army waiting orders. On command, we are ready to offer $25-100k below ask, as well as negative review bomb realtor’s google and yelp pages.Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:37 amEspecially in this market, it's all just a big scam. Everyone is losing except the realtors benefiting from it.dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:59 am
Agents have ZERO incentive to encourage a lower that ask offer. Its fucking rage inducing. Hence the games. If both agents are playing the game in cahoots, they just fleece everyone. Why do you think its so common to here "We got full ask!" from sellers. Their selling agent maxes his profits and the buying agent leds cattle to the automatic feeder.
We do hope to take this listing agent down,
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
Weathly industrialist Mr. H.E. Pennypacker here reporting for duty.Apex wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:55 amDo you need DFD to start emailing with inquiries on the house?Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 am
Seller's market for sure. It's a terrible buying experience, which turns us off completely.
We're pretty sure the selling agent or us in both cases didn't even present our offers to his clients as both houses we put offers on aren't listed as pending yet. is and has contacted the listing agent directly posing as a new buyer to see if he says they're available or not. If he says they're available, we can turn him into the local realtor ethic's board apparently. Our realtor buddy said this dude is notorious for screwing over buyers like this and we could take him down.
What's the email?
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Let's see what happens with e-mail. If he responds that the houses are available (after we lost our offers), it's full time.
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Market gets over inflated. CRASH!dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:59 amAgents have ZERO incentive to encourage a lower that ask offer. Its fucking rage inducing. Hence the games. If both agents are playing the game in cahoots, they just fleece everyone. Why do you think its so common to here "We got full ask!" from sellers. Their selling agent maxes his profits and the buying agent leds cattle to the automatic feeder.
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I'm worried that's going to happen here. That's why I'd love to cash out of our current house and into something that needs work as is undervalued. This thing is on a street where things rarely sell for under 500k, even in bad times.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:08 amMarket gets over inflated. CRASH!dubshow wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:59 am
Agents have ZERO incentive to encourage a lower that ask offer. Its fucking rage inducing. Hence the games. If both agents are playing the game in cahoots, they just fleece everyone. Why do you think its so common to here "We got full ask!" from sellers. Their selling agent maxes his profits and the buying agent leds cattle to the automatic feeder.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/46-C ... 2581_zpid/
Two weeks ago we put an offer in on this house and were told there was "an above ask" offer that the seller accepted instead. "Normal" inspection time is 10 days...so we're past that and the house never changed status.
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Could be negotiating repairs of things found in inspection that weren't on sellers disclosure. Scheduled contractors, engineers, etc... Then Again, it so seller friendly up here who know if the agents "allow" things like that. Not an easy thing to navigateDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:16 amI'm worried that's going to happen here. That's why I'd love to cash out of our current house and into something that needs work as is undervalued. This thing is on a street where things rarely sell for under 500k, even in bad times.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/46-C ... 2581_zpid/
Two weeks ago we put an offer in on this house and were told there was "an above ask" offer that the seller accepted instead. "Normal" inspection time is 10 days...so we're past that and the house never changed status.
But also could be Zillow isn't being updated.
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Our realtor buddy confirmed yesterday that's not listed as pending on the MLS.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:37 amCould be negotiating repairs of things found in inspection that weren't on sellers disclosure. Scheduled contractors, engineers, etc... Then Again, it so seller friendly up here who know if the agents "allow" things like that. Not an easy thing to navigateDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:16 am
I'm worried that's going to happen here. That's why I'd love to cash out of our current house and into something that needs work as is undervalued. This thing is on a street where things rarely sell for under 500k, even in bad times.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/46-C ... 2581_zpid/
Two weeks ago we put an offer in on this house and were told there was "an above ask" offer that the seller accepted instead. "Normal" inspection time is 10 days...so we're past that and the house never changed status.
But also could be Zillow isn't being updated.
Our offer waived inspection repairs with a 5-day inspection period (just have the ability to walk after inspection, but not ask for shit fixed), so I'd be surprised if they were that motivated to deal with someone trying to nickel and dime repairs if they had our offer on the table. We made it clear that ours remains as a backup.
Seems fishy to me...
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Did you have an appraisal?Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:41 amOur realtor buddy confirmed yesterday that's not listed as pending on the MLS.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:37 am
Could be negotiating repairs of things found in inspection that weren't on sellers disclosure. Scheduled contractors, engineers, etc... Then Again, it so seller friendly up here who know if the agents "allow" things like that. Not an easy thing to navigate
But also could be Zillow isn't being updated.
Our offer waived inspection repairs with a 5-day inspection period (just have the ability to walk after inspection, but not ask for shit fixed), so I'd be surprised if they were that motivated to deal with someone trying to nickel and dime repairs if they had our offer on the table. We made it clear that ours remains as a backup.
Seems fishy to me...
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Nah, the house is so below market that shouldn't be an issue.KYGTIGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:43 amDid you have an appraisal?Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:41 am
Our realtor buddy confirmed yesterday that's not listed as pending on the MLS.
Our offer waived inspection repairs with a 5-day inspection period (just have the ability to walk after inspection, but not ask for shit fixed), so I'd be surprised if they were that motivated to deal with someone trying to nickel and dime repairs if they had our offer on the table. We made it clear that ours remains as a backup.
Seems fishy to me...
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Makes your offer look even better. If they want to sell it as is, just say that.
Some people are just crazy and they have houses to sell too I guess.
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Oh, true. Haven't considered this tactic yet.
TBH, I'm over it. The madness just isn't worth it. I like our current house, and while we could cash in big on it, I just don't think this is all worth the hassle.
In an ideal world, we'd sell our house now and move into a rental house. When the bubble bursts, buy something when the craziness has subsided. But won't do that, so I think we'll just stay put. Would love to take down this shady listing agent if we can,
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