House Plac: From Bag End to Balls Deep

[ChrisoftheNorth]

State law would dictate what they have to disclose and what your options would be if they failed to do so.

Some places it has to be disclosed if a murder happened in the house or the seller can get sued.

I'm sure that applies if they don't tell you about asbestos and such...

Here, we have to disclose things like leaking basements or radon. Maybe more but I'm not terribly experienced with selling properties.

Yep, same here.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

[razr390]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Wow selling agent got double fisted in 1 short week. Fuck that noise. A new roof can be anywhere from a 30-70k affair, let alone fixing the damage that already exists. Looks like someone pulled a “make it look cute for people who have no idea what they’re doing so we can sell it” card. bold move. No dice.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Wow selling agent got double fisted in 1 short week. Fuck that noise. A new roof can be anywhere from a 30-70k affair, let alone fixing the damage that already exists. Looks like someone pulled a “make it look cute for people who have no idea what they’re doing so we can sell it” card. bold move. No dice.

Nah, roof would top out at $20k for all the bells and whistles, $15k is probably most realistic. But then add in $5k for all new gutters and it's $20k before you even address what's damaged. And water damage can run deep with mold and rot and an endless hole for money.

Pointed out all the water damage to the realtor, he didn't even ask if we're still going to submit an offer. He knows he's screwed.

[troyguitar]

How'd you miss all that the first time you saw the house?

[wap]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Well now you know why a) it's been on the market so long, b) why it's so cheap, and c) why the last buyer pulled out.

[wap]

Wow selling agent got double fisted in 1 short week. Fuck that noise. A new roof can be anywhere from a 30-70k affair, let alone fixing the damage that already exists. Looks like someone pulled a “make it look cute for people who have no idea what they’re doing so we can sell it” card. bold move. No dice.

Nah, roof would top out at $20k for all the bells and whistles, $15k is probably most realistic. But then add in $5k for all new gutters and it's $20k before you even address what's damaged. And water damage can run deep with mold and rot and an endless hole for money.

Pointed out all the water damage to the realtor, he didn't even ask if we're still going to submit an offer. He knows he's screwed.

We had our roof done last year, including stripping off 3 layers of shingles and replacing with a 50 year system, was $20k, and I think my house is bigger than this one.
Thank that insurance covered it due to hail damage from a freak local micro burst last July.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

How'd you miss all that the first time you saw the house?

I saw the missing gutters on the first shot, but the house is so hideous, we weren't looking for damage specifically like we were tonight.

We also got some torrential rain this weekend, more than we've gotten all season (it's been super dry so far) that probably made the leaks worse right now.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Well now you know why a) it's been on the market so long, b) why it's so cheap, and c) why the last buyer pulled out.

Yep, totally. They'll never sell that thing unless they drop the price way low.

[wap]

Well now you know why a) it's been on the market so long, b) why it's so cheap, and c) why the last buyer pulled out.

Yep, totally. They'll never sell that thing unless they drop the price way low.

Yea, or if they wait until the next drought so everything seems , otherwise, just the fucker.

[Tar]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

[Tar]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Wow selling agent got double fisted in 1 short week. Fuck that noise. A new roof can be anywhere from a 30-70k affair, let alone fixing the damage that already exists. Looks like someone pulled a “make it look cute for people who have no idea what they’re doing so we can sell it” card. bold move. No dice.

[Desertbreh]

One down. It won't end till you move in with the Tooks, which you know. Slow roll breh.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

One down. It won't end till you move in with the Tooks, which you know. Slow roll breh.

Yea, I know it. She's "over it" as of now, but I'm sure that'll change as soon as the next listing pops up.

[goIftdibrad]

One down. It won't end till you move in with the Tooks, which you know. Slow roll breh.

[Melon]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Water in the house is bad.

Source: Am expert on water in houses.

[Melon]

One down. It won't end till you move in with the Tooks, which you know. Slow roll breh.

Yea, I know it. She's "over it" as of now, but I'm sure that'll change as soon as the next listing pops up.

[Tar]

Update on the beach house , we had a lawyer review the condo corp bylaws and like what we see. Essentially fees are rock solid at 64/mth and anything new needs to be voted on by the unit holders. There are also 11/17 units held privately, so the developer would have a hard time voting in new charges that didn't benefit the group. We waved the condition and are moving forward with Financing which we already qualify for.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Here's how the house viewing went:

First thing I noticed is the house doesn't have gutters. Anywhere. In Michigan, that's bad news for the foundation.

First

Then we go inside and notice bowing in the tops of the window sills, indicative of water leaking (from no fucking gutters likely)

Second

We go into the bedroom on the first floor and looks on the ceiling and points out a large discoloration. "Is that water damage?" She asked? I press on it with my finger, and it sinks in.

Strike 3, we're out.

That house is fuk'd. Roof is supposedly new in the last 10 years, upon closer inspection it almost looks like a DIY job. Minimal flashing around the dormers, minimal coverage in valleys, multiple areas where water could be getting in. That thing has a miriad of untold horrors.

Water in the house is bad.

Source: Am expert on water in houses.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a case where walls had to come down...I was actually envisioning some of the photos I saw of your restoration.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Update on the beach house , we had a lawyer review the condo corp bylaws and like what we see. Essentially fees are rock solid at 64/mth and anything new needs to be voted on by the unit holders. There are also 11/17 units held privately, so the developer would have a hard time voting in new charges that didn't benefit the group. We waved the condition and are moving forward with Financing which we already qualify for.

Is this is Grand Bend?

[Tar]

Update on the beach house , we had a lawyer review the condo corp bylaws and like what we see. Essentially fees are rock solid at 64/mth and anything new needs to be voted on by the unit holders. There are also 11/17 units held privately, so the developer would have a hard time voting in new charges that didn't benefit the group. We waved the condition and are moving forward with Financing which we already qualify for.

Is this is Grand Bend?

Yes! 5 bdroom/6 bed plus three pull out couch rental house. Condo corp outlined a 7 day rental bylaw which was the major hold up.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Is this is Grand Bend?

Yes! 5 bdroom/6 bed plus three pull out couch rental house. Condo corp outlined a 7 day rental bylaw which was the major hold up.

Oh, wow.

[Tar]

Yes! 5 bdroom/6 bed plus three pull out couch rental house. Condo corp outlined a 7 day rental bylaw which was the major hold up.

Oh, wow.

Thank you!

[Tar]

I brought my mortgage broker a Starbucks coffee and oat fudge bar. She is going to ask head office of she can discount a little deeper. Plus she's not terrible on the eyes.

[razr390]

I brought my mortgage broker a Starbucks coffee and oat fudge bar. She is going to ask head office of she can discount a little deeper. Plus she's not terrible on the eyes.

pics?