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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:17 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 am
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:11 am

FLW houses are terrible to live in, but great to look at.
I don’t think this would suck to live in.
:dat:

I grew up in a house my parents built that was inspired by FLW. It was neat...all the natural light and big open windows were 5/7.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:26 am
by Johnny_P
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:15 am
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 am

I don’t think this would suck to live in.
Depends, are you an exhibitionist? The tours might get tiring in your daily life.

https://fallingwater.org/
I toured it. House was rad.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:18 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:26 am

I toured it. House was rad.
Fallingwater isn’t exactly known for being watertight.

I love his designs but many of them are form > function, and have limited headroom. FLW was not a terribly tall man.
Good point. If Fallingwater was my house I’d just commit seppuku to put an end to my misery.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:51 pm
by dubshow
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:26 am

I toured it. House was rad.
Fallingwater isn’t exactly known for being watertight.

I love his designs but many of them are form > function, and have limited headroom. FLW was not a terribly tall man.
:notwrong:

shits been rebuilt 3 fucking times.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:51 pm
by dubshow
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:18 pm
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 pm

Fallingwater isn’t exactly known for being watertight.

I love his designs but many of them are form > function, and have limited headroom. FLW was not a terribly tall man.
Good point. If Fallingwater was my house I’d just commit seppuku to put an end to my misery.
wise man.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:26 am

I toured it. House was rad.
Fallingwater isn’t exactly known for being watertight.

I love his designs but many of them are form > function, and have limited headroom. FLW was not a terribly tall man.
:wat:

I agree with the limited headroom, but his ethos was living within nature. All the designs were intended to be functional. I've been in a few privately owned houses, and if everything was left alone the way FLW intended, it was pretty :mindblown: functionally.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:49 pm
by wap
Detroit wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 pm

Fallingwater isn’t exactly known for being watertight.

I love his designs but many of them are form > function, and have limited headroom. FLW was not a terribly tall man.
:wat:

I agree with the limited headroom, but his ethos was living within nature. All the designs were intended to be functional. I've been in a few privately owned houses, and if everything was left alone the way FLW intended, it was pretty :mindblown: functionally.
Since FLW lived and worked in Chicago for a number of years, we have many of his homes here and elsewhere in Illinois. I've toured several of them. One of my favorites is the Dana-Thomas House in Springfield, the capital of Illinois. One recurring theme with many of his houses that I toured is indeed water damage. In fact, the Dana-Thomas House has a bowling ally in the basement (!) but we couldn't see it when we were there because the basement had just flooded, and the water came from from a leaky roof. The flat/shallow pitched roofs that he preferred did less than a stellar job of draining water and consequently it would find its way in somewhere. Love his stuff :doe: Love all that Prairie/Craftsman style architecture.
https://dana-thomas.org/

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:40 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:39 pm
Detroit wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:02 pm
:wat:

I agree with the limited headroom, but his ethos was living within nature. All the designs were intended to be functional. I've been in a few privately owned houses, and if everything was left alone the way FLW intended, it was pretty :mindblown: functionally.
I suppose form > function was a poor way of wording it.

His designs were fantastic, and based around functionalism, but long term durability was where they suffered.

So, in terms of ergonomics/living in the house - great. In terms of lasting forever... not so great.

I absolutely love FLW stuff, though. We looked at this house long before buying the house we're in now:

https://www.redfin.com/PA/Southampton/1 ... e/39362771

It was designed by a student of Taliesin IIRC.
Yea...like :wap: said, the flat roofs and lots of glass means difficult durability.

That's why I really like our prairie style house. He had a big influence in that style, but it was before he went over the top with flat roofs and whatnot. Our house had a pitch to the roof and oversized windows that give the feeling without being difficult to maintain.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm
by troyguitar

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:49 pm
by Apex
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm Found our next :haus:

http://tuxedoparkfinehomes.com/?propert ... k-ny-10987
:neat:

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:52 pm
by Desertbreh
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm Found our next :haus:

http://tuxedoparkfinehomes.com/?propert ... k-ny-10987
It's incredible that is all on offer for less than a million bucks. I mean, I realize there's probably another $400K in "necessary renovations".................but that's a lot of architecture and space for 6 digits.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by troyguitar
In actual news, there are no real photos available but we are casually interested in this place:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/308- ... 1299_zpid/?

The 30-something guy who owned it was killed in a car crash this summer and his parents are trying to :dealwithit: - apparently it's in "pre-foreclosure" whatever that means. We probably won't end up doing anything but it's the only place we've seen locally that seems like it might be both interesting and affordable.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:55 pm
by troyguitar
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:52 pm
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm Found our next :haus:

http://tuxedoparkfinehomes.com/?propert ... k-ny-10987
It's incredible that is all on offer for less than a million bucks. I mean, I realize there's probably another $400K in "necessary renovations".................but that's a lot of architecture and space for 6 digits.
:dat:

If we had jobs in Manhattan instead of Corning, I could see ourselves going :fullretard: and buying it. Our friends paid more than that for a shitty row home in Queens... This place is epic.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:25 pm
by dubshow
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:55 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:52 pm

It's incredible that is all on offer for less than a million bucks. I mean, I realize there's probably another $400K in "necessary renovations".................but that's a lot of architecture and space for 6 digits.
:dat:

If we had jobs in Manhattan instead of Corning, I could see ourselves going :fullretard: and buying it. Our friends paid more than that for a shitty row home in Queens... This place is epic.
but you are more than 1hour away from actual island. Cool house and all for a oddly low price.

:neat:

Image

Definitely haunted tho.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:29 pm
by CorvetteWaxer
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:55 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:52 pm

It's incredible that is all on offer for less than a million bucks. I mean, I realize there's probably another $400K in "necessary renovations".................but that's a lot of architecture and space for 6 digits.
:dat:

If we had jobs in Manhattan instead of Corning, I could see ourselves going :fullretard: and buying it. Our friends paid more than that for a shitty row home in Queens... This place is epic.
Not seeing any garage... :wtf:

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:33 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:53 pm In actual news, there are no real photos available but we are casually interested in this place:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/308- ... 1299_zpid/?

The 30-something guy who owned it was killed in a car crash this summer and his parents are trying to :dealwithit: - apparently it's in "pre-foreclosure" whatever that means. We probably won't end up doing anything but it's the only place we've seen locally that seems like it might be both interesting and affordable.
Wow. I'd love to see more photos of this thing. Super interesting, especially at that price.

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:10 pm
by wap
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm Found our next :haus:

http://tuxedoparkfinehomes.com/?propert ... k-ny-10987
:fancy: :mahtroy:

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:20 pm
by Desertbreh
Detroit wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:33 pm
troyguitar wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:53 pm In actual news, there are no real photos available but we are casually interested in this place:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/308- ... 1299_zpid/?

The 30-something guy who owned it was killed in a car crash this summer and his parents are trying to :dealwithit: - apparently it's in "pre-foreclosure" whatever that means. We probably won't end up doing anything but it's the only place we've seen locally that seems like it might be both interesting and affordable.
Wow. I'd love to see more photos of this thing. Super interesting, especially at that price.
What's not super interesting is heating and cooling a 12K square foot castle in New York.

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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:53 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
[user not found] wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:27 am Has anyone done a bathroom in stages? We aren't going to move anything so it seems like it's possible and a way to save some stress.
Depends what you want to do. The biggest pain is changing the tub and/or shower because it can't really be done properly in a day.

We've changed vanities, toilets, and tile in stages with success.

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:52 pm
by coogles
And just like that we're back to owning only one home. :sweaty: Bittersweet, but thankful everything's finally gone through.

Although the effing terrible appraisal for our equity line dragged things out and made it so we couldn't put down as much as we wanted on the new place, we did get a nice chunk of change from closing. Just dropped this year's contribution into the little dude's 529 plan and sent payoffs for the GTI and the Atlas, so we're down to having no debt at all but the house, which is a nice feeling.

I'm officially a suburban dad now. :disgust:

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:03 pm
by Apex
coogles wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:52 pm And just like that we're back to owning only one home. :sweaty: Bittersweet, but thankful everything's finally gone through.

Although the effing terrible appraisal for our equity line dragged things out and made it so we couldn't put down as much as we wanted on the new place, we did get a nice chunk of change from closing. Just dropped this year's contribution into the little dude's 529 plan and sent payoffs for the GTI and the Atlas, so we're down to having no debt at all but the house, which is a nice feeling.

I'm officially a suburban dad now. :disgust:
:fuckyeah:

Congrats coogs!

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:11 pm
by coogles
Apex wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:03 pm :fuckyeah:

Congrats coogs!
Thanks!

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:13 pm
by CorvetteWaxer
coogles wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:52 pm And just like that we're back to owning only one home. :sweaty: Bittersweet, but thankful everything's finally gone through.

Although the effing terrible appraisal for our equity line dragged things out and made it so we couldn't put down as much as we wanted on the new place, we did get a nice chunk of change from closing. Just dropped this year's contribution into the little dude's 529 plan and sent payoffs for the GTI and the Atlas, so we're down to having no debt at all but the house, which is a nice feeling.

I'm officially a suburban dad now. :disgust:
Now, avoid the :plac: and stay out of debt.

:like:

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:07 pm
by wap
coogles wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:52 pm And just like that we're back to owning only one home. :sweaty: Bittersweet, but thankful everything's finally gone through.

Although the effing terrible appraisal for our equity line dragged things out and made it so we couldn't put down as much as we wanted on the new place, we did get a nice chunk of change from closing. Just dropped this year's contribution into the little dude's 529 plan and sent payoffs for the GTI and the Atlas, so we're down to having no debt at all but the house, which is a nice feeling.

I'm officially a suburban dad now. :disgust:
Fucking FINALLY!

Great news.

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:09 pm
by coogles
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:13 pm Now, avoid the :plac: and stay out of debt.

:like:
ha well, the GTI is definitely getting the axe, but it'll be for something roughly the same price or hopefully cheaper. It'll be boring, but I'll just have to deal, I won't ever have a car note again.