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Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:33 pm

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Current concrete walls - tile or stone
New walls - wainscoting, chair rail, paint
Floors- tile
Electric - three outlets, half a dozen dimmable LED recessed

Done?
Don't go :scrooge: on outlets. I always add a few more than I think I need because now is the time to do it, it's cheap, and you really can't go back and add more later.
I'll do four or five. It's a good point.
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Don't go :scrooge: on outlets. I always add a few more than I think I need because now is the time to do it, it's cheap, and you really can't go back and add more later.
I'll do four or five. It's a good point.
:word: Good call.
I've never regretted the extra outlets I've put in and usually end up using them all, too. :word:
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:04 am

Just catching up... this looks like a 5/7 addition! Look forward to seeing it come together.

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I wish I was fancy enough for a wine and whiskey storage location. My basement could easily accommodate one. Maybe I'll just build a shrine to my lord and savior Ultra

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dtraill27 wrote:I wish I was fancy enough for a wine and whiskey storage location. My basement could easily accommodate one. Maybe I'll just build a shrine to my lord and savior Ultra
Just come on over and use mine.
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dtraill27 wrote:I wish I was fancy enough for a wine and whiskey storage location. My basement could easily accommodate one. Maybe I'll just build a shrine to my lord and savior Ultra
Just come on over and use mine.
an invite to a windowless room with a hidden door in Bender's basement... What's the worst that could happen

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Just come on over and use mine.
an invite to a windowless room with a hidden door in Bender's basement... What's the worst that could happen
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Show me on the whiskey bottle where the robot touched you.
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Show me on the whiskey bottle where the robot touched you.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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I see no reason to do 2*6s, anyone disagree?
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:01 pm

Total cost of materials excluding tile wall and floor - approximately $1100. Not bad!
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Bender wrote:I see no reason to do 2*6s, anyone disagree?
Tin studs cut to length with snips and held together with self tapping screws. No need for a saw either.

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Bender wrote:I see no reason to do 2*6s, anyone disagree?
Tin studs cut to length with snips and held together with self tapping screws. No need for a saw either.
Interesting idea...
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:22 pm

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Tarspin wrote:Tin studs cut to length with snips and held together with self tapping screws. No need for a saw either.
Interesting idea...
You'd be framed in like two hours and be left with a plastic bag of off cut pieces of tin. NBD. I've put a lot of these kinds of walls up when I was 16 and helping my dad and uncle do renos. They are a bit of a pain to screw together because the edge of the inside stud wants to push away from the screw. I remember getting a few screws digging at my finger every so often because of poor hand placement. Most offices you go into are built that way.

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Bender wrote:Interesting idea...
You'd be framed in like two hours and be left with a plastic bag of off cut pieces of tin. NBD. I've put a lot of these kinds of walls up when I was 16 and helping my dad and uncle do renos. They are a bit of a pain to screw together because the edge of the inside stud wants to push away from the screw. I remember getting a few screws digging at my finger every so often because of poor hand placement. Most offices you go into are built that way.
Reading up on this i feel like it will save me DAYS on the job at a 30% price premium. Seems worth it.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:29 pm

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Bender wrote:Interesting idea...
You'd be framed in like two hours and be left with a plastic bag of off cut pieces of tin. NBD. I've put a lot of these kinds of walls up when I was 16 and helping my dad and uncle do renos. They are a bit of a pain to screw together because the edge of the inside stud wants to push away from the screw. I remember getting a few screws digging at my finger every so often because of poor hand placement. Most offices you go into are built that way.
Indeed, very interesting. I know nothing about this, but worth investigating.

Since you're not doing anything structural, there's no reason to go nuts. I used 2x4's in mine because I had a bunch of scrap ones.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:32 pm

getting the ceiling track right seems a bit difficult... not impossible.
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:42 pm

Bender wrote:getting the ceiling track right seems a bit difficult... not impossible.
I guess you can start with the ceiling, and just mark and drill right through the studs wherever they make contact with existing ceiling joists (even add a few 2x2s if needed). Once the tracks are mounted drop a string with a weight down right at outer the corner for reference and install the pieces for the floor. Put some 1/4 inch foam down under the track so it doesn't sit on the concrete and then smash concrete anchors through the track into floor. Now you've got upper and lower. Put one stud against the wall and every other one 16" away, as well as adding an extra stud for the corner of the room outer wall. Measure each stud length from floor to ceiling prior to cutting in case the floor is sloping down. Self tap those lateral studs and you're done. Whatever you do for a door frame with wood is the same with the tin studs. I'd do that in a heartbeat over real wood. Why bother with a saw, the noise, mess and time when it's not structural?

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:52 pm

Ok this was awesome

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:54 pm

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Ok this was awesome

Wow, this looks easier than wood.

5/7.
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Ok this was awesome

Wow, this looks easier than wood.

5/7.
:dat: I like his process a lot too

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^^^^^^^^Interesting!

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:24 pm

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I see no reason to do 2*6s, anyone disagree?
Definitely not needed.
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