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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:34 pm
by max225
MrH42 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm There's an opportunity cost due to the cash flow hit. But I highly doubt a $15k FJ and a $34k JL will be within a few thousand all in after 2 years.
They are within 3-4k at the moment. My "cash" is just sitting at a lame ass 2% interest right now. So it is negligible.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:23 pm
by Tar
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:47 pm
Tarspin wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:56 pm

Depreciation/repairs/tax is actual cost not the sticker price. If it is a wash after two or less years then pick the more appealing one. Doesn't that make sense to you?
But what’s the payment?
Cash payment with sidelined money that got pulled out of Tesla stock too early

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:33 pm
by Tar
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:27 pm
Tarspin wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:38 pm

How much extra depreciation/tax loss at 30k JL vs repairs/depreciation/tax loss on the 15k FJ is the real question of cost right? I'm guessing its within a couple of thousand dollars, so it is whatever you like backroading in more.
To be 100% honest I am not sure if I have value in the JL. It would be a bit of a compromise as it would be a 2 door soft top with :manuel: but not 100% set on that yet. The FJ has a really nice size and form factor for me, as I don't really need a 4 door but a 2 door is a bit too small.


That said... Lets just assume I get 6k off sticker... 28.7K +TLRetc ~ 32k I will likely own it for 2 years tops. Given my :plac: life. That'll make it around 25k trade it tops... so around 7k + more expensive insurance but its negligible.

to compare with a 13k FJ, it'll need about $1300 ttlr, ~ 14.3 even if I get nothing off... so it'll be worth 11/12k in 2 years I don't expect it to go anywhere. +2k in repair and maintenance... so.. it'll cost about 1/2 of what a JL will run. Granted the JL will be a brand new vehicle.

But what it goes down to is where I see the value. This is a toy, will I get 2x the fun out of JL over an FJ, is the real question. Not necessarily the cash outlay.
The FJ is pretty cool and original,not sure if its very fun on road but off road they are probably tit for tat with the exception of the open roof thing.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:34 pm
by D Griff
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:38 am Image
Orthodox :scrooge: life. I gotta find who owns the m3... she/he parks where I used to
Peter Poon.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:47 pm
by Melon
I do like that Rabbit edition GTI.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:38 pm
by max225
Tarspin wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:33 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:27 pm

To be 100% honest I am not sure if I have value in the JL. It would be a bit of a compromise as it would be a 2 door soft top with :manuel: but not 100% set on that yet. The FJ has a really nice size and form factor for me, as I don't really need a 4 door but a 2 door is a bit too small.


That said... Lets just assume I get 6k off sticker... 28.7K +TLRetc ~ 32k I will likely own it for 2 years tops. Given my :plac: life. That'll make it around 25k trade it tops... so around 7k + more expensive insurance but its negligible.

to compare with a 13k FJ, it'll need about $1300 ttlr, ~ 14.3 even if I get nothing off... so it'll be worth 11/12k in 2 years I don't expect it to go anywhere. +2k in repair and maintenance... so.. it'll cost about 1/2 of what a JL will run. Granted the JL will be a brand new vehicle.

But what it goes down to is where I see the value. This is a toy, will I get 2x the fun out of JL over an FJ, is the real question. Not necessarily the cash outlay.
The FJ is pretty cool and original,not sure if its very fun on road but off road they are probably tit for tat with the exception of the open roof thing.
Open roof is decent. I have to weigh it against driving with a tent above my head for most of the time... to get TO/FROM the off road spot... I am on the fence about that piece.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:02 pm
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:34 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:38 am Image
Orthodox :scrooge: life. I gotta find who owns the m3... she/he parks where I used to
Peter Poon.
:dat: Poonslayer returns with new Kraut War Machine.

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:59 pm
by max225
So... I'll be taking a look a 16xk mile Fj that is listed at 13k this weekend if it is still around. It is a cali car with maintenance records (shitty but it's something) dating back to day 1.

Will report back if this is futile.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/d/ ... 65141.html

Image

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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:14 pm
by SAWCE
I get that they’re unique looking, but man I always hated how they look lol.

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:35 pm
by max225
SAWCE wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:14 pm I get that they’re unique looking, but man I always hated how they look lol.
I don’t mind it. I liked how it drove over a :jeep: which is a selling point to me. The size is also a selling point, it’s bigger than a too small 2 door and slightly smaller than the 4 door.

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:47 pm
by CaleDeRoo
Where will the spice rack go?

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:47 pm
by SAWCE
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:35 pm
SAWCE wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:14 pm I get that they’re unique looking, but man I always hated how they look lol.
I don’t mind it. I liked how it drove over a :jeep: which is a selling point to me. The size is also a selling point, it’s bigger than a too small 2 door and slightly smaller than the 4 door.
Makes sense. Excited to see what you end up in either way. Hoping when it happens we can make an off-road trip together at some point.

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:54 pm
by max225
SAWCE wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:47 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:35 pm

I don’t mind it. I liked how it drove over a :jeep: which is a selling point to me. The size is also a selling point, it’s bigger than a too small 2 door and slightly smaller than the 4 door.
Makes sense. Excited to see what you end up in either way. Hoping when it happens we can make an off-road trip together at some point.
If the FJ doesn’t sell, I’m looking at it Sunday. It’s a pretty darn good value prop.

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:02 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:35 pm
SAWCE wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:14 pm I get that they’re unique looking, but man I always hated how they look lol.
I don’t mind it. I liked how it drove over a :jeep: which is a selling point to me. The size is also a selling point, it’s bigger than a too small 2 door and slightly smaller than the 4 door.
I like them. So do lots of people they hold their value strong like bull. I am :disappoint: about the RR doe.

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:40 pm
by max225
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:02 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:35 pm

I don’t mind it. I liked how it drove over a :jeep: which is a selling point to me. The size is also a selling point, it’s bigger than a too small 2 door and slightly smaller than the 4 door.
I like them. So do lots of people they hold their value strong like bull. I am :disappoint: about the RR doe.
Dude went :fullretard:
He didn’t answer my email
He took down the $10,800 ad
Relisted @ $11,400 yesterday
Today @ $11,600

There is a white one next to my house with 63k miles with maintenance records from Beverly Hills and Huntington Beach and a single owner... listed at 14.9k and it’s a year newer.

I may check it out later... and kick the tires

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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:10 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:40 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:02 pm

I like them. So do lots of people they hold their value strong like bull. I am :disappoint: about the RR doe.
Dude went :fullretard:
He didn’t answer my email
He took down the $10,800 ad
Relisted @ $11,400 yesterday
Today @ $11,600

There is a white one next to my house with 63k miles with maintenance records from Beverly Hills and Huntington Beach and a single owner... listed at 14.9k and it’s a year newer.

I may check it out later... and kick the tires
They are stupid AF but they are good looking and comfortable as hell, basic drivetrain w/o supe is ok, and then you just have to pray that you don't have to get fucked for parts.

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:06 pm
by max225
https://www.dublintoyota.com/used-inven ... nteracted=

Gonna Test Drive this to see it a newer one is worth it

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:37 pm
by max225
[user not found] wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:24 pm
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:06 pm https://www.dublintoyota.com/used-inven ... nteracted=

Gonna Test Drive this to see it a newer one is worth it
Is it Army Green or Calvary Blue?
Looks blue to me. :dillerman: can’t figure shit out per usual

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:42 pm
by max225
[user not found] wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:39 pm
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:37 pm

Looks blue to me. :dillerman: can’t figure shit out per usual
:derp:
:dat: I can’t believe the price diff.. this one will be 28k+ tax tomorrow 13k plus tax ... technically the same vehicle ... we shall see

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:51 pm
by max225
[user not found] wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:48 pm
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:42 pm

:dat: I can’t believe the price diff.. this one will be 28k+ tax tomorrow 13k plus tax ... technically the same vehicle ... we shall see
Slight engine/drivetrain tweaks too, no?
Yea, engine goes from 239 to 260 hp but it loses 8lb ft of torque. And frankly who cares about hp in a brick ? I want the torque. That’s pretty much it... engine becomes a bit more complex with second set of variable valve timing ...
most say it’s imperceptible.

The real gain is the fender reinforcement. But that seems like a random problem as is

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:23 pm
by max225
Just drove a 2012 with 8x miles. Blue one posted.

Drove much better than the 2007. Felt like a bit better torque curve actually perhaps due to the secondary valve timing.

Also far less used up feeling... womanz and me both really liked it ... the price was drugs though at $28k... reduced from 30k

On TIGER PAW tires and had a chipped windshield :wtf:

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:25 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:23 pm Just drove a 2012 with 8x miles. Blue one posted.

Drove much better than the 2007. Felt like a bit better torque curve actually perhaps due to the secondary valve timing.

Also far less used up feeling... womanz and me both really liked it ... the price was drugs though at $28k... reduced from 30k

On TIGER PAW tires and had a chipped windshield :wtf:
Range Rover :lol:

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:46 pm
by max225
Desertbreh wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:25 pm
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:23 pm Just drove a 2012 with 8x miles. Blue one posted.

Drove much better than the 2007. Felt like a bit better torque curve actually perhaps due to the secondary valve timing.

Also far less used up feeling... womanz and me both really liked it ... the price was drugs though at $28k... reduced from 30k

On TIGER PAW tires and had a chipped windshield :wtf:
Range Rover :lol:
Going to Range Rover dealer with the beige one after a winery stop over
Image

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:10 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:46 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:25 pm

Range Rover :lol:
Going to Range Rover dealer with the beige one after a winery stop over
Image
:like:

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:40 pm
by max225
Drove the sandstone one in Rocklin... umm we have defcon :plac: 5 it was the nicest 77k mike vehicle I have driven in a while ... 1/2 the price of a new JLU ... that id like ...

Full records ... umm


:popcorn:

Still driving a 13k one tomorrow but azn and I are nearly sold on it as is ...