I don't think Tessie network is an advantage once opened to the masses, it will just overcrowd the entire experience.D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:56 pmOh yeah, it's 100% doable if you live in any metro area, and road tripping is certainly easier in a Tessie versus others. I just thought Matt Farrah's anecdotal experience was pretty interesting, given he is an EV owner and was road tripping in SoCal, arguably the most viable place. I too agree that 20 minutes is perfectly acceptable. Sure, it isn't two minutes, but I find I wander around the gas station taking a piss, buying a drink, etc. for 15 minutes typically anyway. If the charging spots are somewhere interesting (small town, tourist attraction, etc) or useful (like Walmart), it's really a non issue. For me, having to add in planning fuel stops on a road trip is just an inconvenience I'm not sure I'd want to take on.max225 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:32 pm
Yea I trying to be fairly clear about my own scenario here vs "rest of the country". I am with you that there are areas where it makes 0 sense. Hell I was in Texas last month and $2.80 gas is still a thing, and there are 0 EV charging spots. But that's not where I live or will live in the foreseeable future. Those pockets will take the longest to switch over.
I don't foresee EV issues during reasonable road trips either. Traversing the country ?! yea the infrastructure mostly exists for Teslas only, but the whole Electrify america + EV go is rapidly building that out also and its now doable in pretty much any EV. For ex a shit ton of walmarts now have 150kw charging ... you get about 3 miles per KW... and if your car is capable (of the quick charging) you can do the math as to how "quickly" that works. No it isn't like a gas station, where it is 2-3 min, but in 15-25min you can get 200-250 miles of "range" into a vehicle, sometimes more.
I have tried so explain how commuting + road tripping works to some of you on here, but I gave up because some just don't want to hear it. It is doable even now to do things, but it requires some planning, and its getting easier day by day.
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger/
https://www.evgo.com/find-a-charger/
Interesting places to start some research on current coverage levels.
I feel like a lot of this would be solved simply by Tessie opening up their charging network to others, but
The other two links I posted already has a comparable network to tesla, ironically tesla charges slow AF on non tessie networks, which is something to keep in mind. There are plug differences, Europe has thankfully mandated tesla to use the normal plugs, that we now use for Electrify america for example, however tesla using an apple style plug that requires adapters.
Superchargers are still a little bit more convenient because they are specifically designed for tesssies, and have the highest charge rates in the industry (Up to 250kw). But the others have narrowed the gap significantly. I.E the charge rates at Electrify america are close to tesla, and I tried it out during my I3 experience and found it to be quite easy and convenient.