Update - I couldn't remember exactly what I had/hadn't tried. Successfully got the ass end out yesterday and even had to lift the throttle to not go full donut. Press and hold TC button will allow it into fun mode. The only issue with this is that it dials back the throttle response as if it's in "comfort mode". Weird that you can't go full bro quick throttle with all traction loss/no power cut. The car kind of sucks to drive due to throttle mapping unless in sport mode.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:05 amI spun doughnuts with a 430 loaner in my work parking lot .... odd ?! Did you turn tc off ?D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:03 am
"Everything off" is in a lot of modern cars
I can't get the ass end out in my Kamry to save my life and it should be easy with a manual, all seasons in the rear, cold temps... I yanked the wheel and mashed the throttle in a 1" deep puddle yesterday and nothing.
Most new cars are just boring.
on the MINI experience, I think this is actually common with MINI, them + Mazderp seem to have the best dealers, at least around here. That said I don't do much with dealers, have yet to visit BMW ever.