Soviet EV and taco chronicles + future ponderings about Fendie

[Desertbreh]

So, we should all just quit our jobs and buy new cars and sell them to used outlets.

It's more like a bonus than an ongoing income replacement. that I would be willing to go through all of the effort, it seems like seeking out the s, negotiating with managing/storing the cars, managing the 'vana. Plus if things change, you could be stuck with six figures of cars.

Not something I would seek out, but Max has a bird in hand situation.

On the flip side, if you like the Tessie, fuck it. It should still have good value a few months down the line.

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

[D Griff]

It's more like a bonus than an ongoing income replacement. that I would be willing to go through all of the effort, it seems like seeking out the s, negotiating with managing/storing the cars, managing the 'vana. Plus if things change, you could be stuck with six figures of cars.

Not something I would seek out, but Max has a bird in hand situation.

On the flip side, if you like the Tessie, fuck it. It should still have good value a few months down the line.

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

Yep I agree depending on bro deal though. Maybe bro had too many allocations and didn't have the cool $90K sitting around in cash for Tessie number seven or whatever. At which point if it was lose it or give the deal to Max, I'd say it's fair game, buy bro a bottle of bourbon and move on. Only Max knows the full story on the bro deal though.

[max225]

It's more like a bonus than an ongoing income replacement. that I would be willing to go through all of the effort, it seems like seeking out the s, negotiating with managing/storing the cars, managing the 'vana. Plus if things change, you could be stuck with six figures of cars.

Not something I would seek out, but Max has a bird in hand situation.

On the flip side, if you like the Tessie, fuck it. It should still have good value a few months down the line.

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

Bro has suggested I flip it actually... He didn't have the cash on hand to buy it out and he had no way of accepting delivery. Which is where I came in... he was out of state... and he has a model 3 incoming next week and a model x coming in feb.... and he has 2 Cybercucks on order also... Dude is peculiar when it comes to cars to say the least.

That said... I will be sending him a deep 3 figure bottle of liquor for X mas

[max225]

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

Yep I agree depending on bro deal though. Maybe bro had too many allocations and didn't have the cool $90K sitting around in cash for Tessie number seven or whatever. At which point if it was lose it or give the deal to Max, I'd say it's fair game, buy bro a bottle of bourbon and move on. Only Max knows the full story on the bro deal though.

Whoa I just missed this super spot on post

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Technically that will be taxed at short term cap gains... in cali that's nearly 50% ... If one was to report it.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It's more like a bonus than an ongoing income replacement. that I would be willing to go through all of the effort, it seems like seeking out the s, negotiating with managing/storing the cars, managing the 'vana. Plus if things change, you could be stuck with six figures of cars.

Not something I would seek out, but Max has a bird in hand situation.

On the flip side, if you like the Tessie, fuck it. It should still have good value a few months down the line.

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

We paid $10k, so it was a more fair deal IMO. But this summer we could have sold it for $20k. 21' V8 boats are rare apparently.

I thought about flipping it ZFG, her uncle even suggested it (he said he was just glad he didn't have to deal with on FBM or CL and DGAF what we did), Aunt probably would have been more

But we get way too much enjoyment out of it, and I can't replace it with something similar without spending at least triple. I think that's a point to be made here too. Max has been curious about Teslas for a while, this is a might as well enjoy it for a bit and get it out of the system (or maybe not and keep it ). Like Dan said, it'll probably still be worth stupid money in 6 mos when the Fendie (name, not the truck) comes in.

[max225]

Technically that will be taxed at short term cap gains... in cali that's nearly 50% ... If one was to report it.

Seems like a big amount to hide from the tax man, these are like the only crimes people go to prison for nowadays. Rob a bank don’t pay taxes and go to jail

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Seems like a big amount to hide from the tax man, these are like the only crimes people go to prison for nowadays. Rob a bank don’t pay taxes and go to jail

How do they find out?

[max225]

Seems like a big amount to hide from the tax man, these are like the only crimes people go to prison for nowadays. Rob a bank don’t pay taxes and go to jail

How do they find out?

I mean it’s not like I’m going to have 105k hit my hidden cash stache

[ChrisoftheNorth]

How do they find out?

I mean it’s not like I’m going to have 105k hit my hidden cash stache

So you sold a car, people do it all the time. I've never had to record an original purchase price for a vehicle I sold to report to the bank. When you sold your Tacoma, did you report the original purchase price to the bank?

If you were doing it multiple times a month, sure flags would raise. But once or twice in a year?

[max225]

I mean it’s not like I’m going to have 105k hit my hidden cash stache

So you sold a car, people do it all the time. I've never had to record an original purchase price for a vehicle I sold to report to the bank. When you sold your Tacoma, did you report the original purchase price to the bank?

If you were doing it multiple times a month, sure flags would raise. But once or twice in a year?

I honestly :dunno: but that’s like saying if i sold stock and didn’t record it either and pretend like everything is fine. We’re not talking peanuts here

[ChrisoftheNorth]

So you sold a car, people do it all the time. I've never had to record an original purchase price for a vehicle I sold to report to the bank. When you sold your Tacoma, did you report the original purchase price to the bank?

If you were doing it multiple times a month, sure flags would raise. But once or twice in a year?

I honestly :dunno: but that’s like saying if i sold stock and didn’t record it either and pretend like everything is fine. We’re not talking peanuts here

I disagree. Your brokerage knows what you paid for your stock and gains are fully documented and reported to the IRS via 1040. Ain't no way out of that.

Car sales aren't really documented outside of your bank making note of big cash transactions.

[max225]

I honestly :dunno: but that’s like saying if i sold stock and didn’t record it either and pretend like everything is fine. We’re not talking peanuts here

I disagree. Your brokerage knows what you paid for your stock and gains are fully documented and reported to the IRS via 1040. Ain't no way out of that.

Car sales aren't really documented outside of your bank making note of big cash transactions.

The dmv has clear records of the purchase price. I just signed the paperwork and they will have paperwork of the sales price again if I was to sell. That’s just a basic car transaction.

There is a paper trail whether the irs will follow it is tbd

[D Griff]

Yep, I would pay the taxes if there are capital gains in the five figures. Wouldn’t want to get caught and it is just insane free money anyway.

[D Griff]

Yep I agree depending on bro deal though. Maybe bro had too many allocations and didn't have the cool $90K sitting around in cash for Tessie number seven or whatever. At which point if it was lose it or give the deal to Max, I'd say it's fair game, buy bro a bottle of bourbon and move on. Only Max knows the full story on the bro deal though.

Whoa I just missed this super spot on post

[Desertbreh]

Well, I think he got a bro deal on this car. It's not cool to flip the bro deal. That would have been like Chris flipping his boat that his wife's aunt gave he and Michelle for 5 grand thinking they would make porn shoots in Northern Michigan with it when instead he flipped it for 12 grand to buy 2 snowmobiles.

We paid $10k, so it was a more fair deal IMO. But this summer we could have sold it for $20k. 21' V8 boats are rare apparently.

I thought about flipping it ZFG, her uncle even suggested it (he said he was just glad he didn't have to deal with on FBM or CL and DGAF what we did), Aunt probably would have been more

But we get way too much enjoyment out of it, and I can't replace it with something similar without spending at least triple. I think that's a point to be made here too. Max has been curious about Teslas for a while, this is a might as well enjoy it for a bit and get it out of the system (or maybe not and keep it ). Like Dan said, it'll probably still be worth stupid money in 6 mos when the Fendie (name, not the truck) comes in.

1. 2X just missed the base amount on the boat
2. FREE.COM for 10 grand.
3. The Defender is really the stupid buy here.

[max225]

I don’t have the desert mans approval for the Fendie? Engine not big enough ?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Yep, I would pay the taxes if there are capital gains in the five figures. Wouldn’t want to get caught and it is just insane free money anyway.

[D Griff]

I don’t have the desert mans approval for the Fendie? Engine not big enough ?

I guess the long term depreciation/reliability concerns are too much for him.

I am happy to see you 'living a little', you have worked for it and earned it.

[max225]

One thing to point out on the Tessie is the low COG. This car has no body roll or lean. No it isn’t a huge performer no matter the fact that it got like the quickest Nurburgring time but I think most of that is through acceleration.

The m3 I had certainly had more confidence in the corners and was way lighter on its feet but the Tessie is such a better dd it’s not even funny. More on this later

[max225]

Another quick update … there is a thing called “vampire drain”

The car loses about 1% in charge per day to stay alive.
Going on a 7 day trip … going to be interesting to see. I am not leaving it plugged in.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Another quick update … there is a thing called “vampire drain”

The car loses about 1% in charge per day to stay alive.
Going on a 7 day trip … going to be interesting to see. I am not leaving it plugged in.

Curious: does Tesla suggest leaving it plugged in if you're leaving for a while or leaving it unplugged? OR just do whatever?

[Tar]

Another quick update … there is a thing called “vampire drain”

The car loses about 1% in charge per day to stay alive.
Going on a 7 day trip … going to be interesting to see. I am not leaving it plugged in.

Poorvette owners know this term all too well

[D Griff]

Another quick update … there is a thing called “vampire drain”

The car loses about 1% in charge per day to stay alive.
Going on a 7 day trip … going to be interesting to see. I am not leaving it plugged in.

Poorvette owners know this term all too well

Reminds me of the buyer of mine calling me to try to help him figure out why it wouldn't hold a charge on a brand new battery. Just get a trickle charger and move on,

[Desertbreh]

I don’t have the desert mans approval for the Fendie? Engine not big enough ?

You just didn't like it enough.