Ran out of fun money now that the wife is unemployed. I'll be lucky if I still have the JT in 3 mos.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:02 pmThe memo says you should have both. Four post lift brah.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Tides have shifted I suppose.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I legit enjoyed the in my JK. It was fun.
The in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Um... JL is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 pmI legit enjoyed the in my JK. It was fun.
The in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
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What makes a in a or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:22 pmUm... JL is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 pm
I legit enjoyed the in my JK. It was fun.
The in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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The other issue is lack of torque. The 3.6 is really crappy under 2200-2500rpm, it feels completely gutless and bogs, a feeling absent on the AUTO.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pmWhat makes a in a or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:22 pm
Um... JL is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.
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Oh, totally.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I think the 2.0T feels a lot better, personally. It's too bad that it isn't an option with but I wasn't getting regardless, so whatever. Hopefully the motor doesn't as I could see us having this car for 150k miles or more (if we ever actually drive again).
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I can see it lasting 100k trouble free, which would be a decade for y’all if I’m guessing. I don’t think reliability is a concern on any new car
I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived
But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy.
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No, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 amI think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived
But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:08 amNo, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am
I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived
But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy.
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I’m looking forward to sending it through some mud holes.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:08 amNo, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am
I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived
But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.