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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:02 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:14 pm
There's no fun to be had in anything that isn't a sports car. Didn't you get the memo? Are you new here?
The memo says you should have both. Four post lift brah.
Ran out of fun money now that the wife is unemployed. I'll be lucky if I still have the JT in 3 mos.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:26 pm
I've been saying this for years, only to be told :wrong:

Get with the program pal, Trackdaybro or :gtfo:
I think more people support off-roading on this forum than not. So you're :wrong: about saying that others told you you're :wrong:
Tides have shifted I suppose.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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SAWCE wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:03 pm I love rowing gears in my JK. Don’t plan on doing any real crawling, which I think would be the only place an automatic would have an advantage. Soft roading happens just fine in the :manuel:
I legit enjoyed the :manuel: in my JK. It was fun.

The :manuel: in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 pm
SAWCE wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:03 pm I love rowing gears in my JK. Don’t plan on doing any real crawling, which I think would be the only place an automatic would have an advantage. Soft roading happens just fine in the :manuel:
I legit enjoyed the :manuel: in my JK. It was fun.

The :manuel: in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
Um... JL :manuel: is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:22 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 pm
I legit enjoyed the :manuel: in my JK. It was fun.

The :manuel: in the JL is just too...fake? Zero clutch feel, the shifter feels like a video game joystick (it essentially is), gearing is all wrong, it's just not great. Vs the 8 speed that's telepathic in gear selection, rips off shifts faster than any slushbox has the right to, and still manages to be smooth and easy.
Um... JL :manuel: is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.
What makes a :manuel: in a :truk: or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pm
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Um... JL :manuel: is worlds better than the jk... The gearing is shit but the trans (throws+clutch) is way better. I do wonder why the gearing is so off... It's basically gear 1-3, and then 5th, because 6th is too tall. A bizarre driving experience. It is a 4 speed 6 speed. Gear 4 and 5 are completely useless.
What makes a :manuel: in a :truk: or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.
The other issue is lack of torque. The 3.6 is really crappy under 2200-2500rpm, it feels completely gutless and bogs, a feeling absent on the AUTO.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:23 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pm
What makes a :manuel: in a :truk: or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.
The other issue is lack of torque. The 3.6 is really crappy under 2200-2500rpm, it feels completely gutless and bogs, a feeling absent on the AUTO.
Oh, totally.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:23 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pm
What makes a :manuel: in a :truk: or :Jeep: "fun" is the mechanical feeling of it all, the JL has none of that. Just get the auto at that point.
The other issue is lack of torque. The 3.6 is really crappy under 2200-2500rpm, it feels completely gutless and bogs, a feeling absent on the AUTO.
:dat: I think the 2.0T feels a lot better, personally. It's too bad that it isn't an option with :manuel: but I wasn't getting :manuel: regardless, so whatever. Hopefully the motor doesn't :nuke: as I could see us having this car for 150k miles or more (if we ever actually drive again).
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:47 am
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The other issue is lack of torque. The 3.6 is really crappy under 2200-2500rpm, it feels completely gutless and bogs, a feeling absent on the AUTO.
:dat: I think the 2.0T feels a lot better, personally. It's too bad that it isn't an option with :manuel: but I wasn't getting :manuel: regardless, so whatever. Hopefully the motor doesn't :nuke: as I could see us having this car for 150k miles or more (if we ever actually drive again).
I can see it lasting 100k trouble free, which would be a decade for y’all if I’m guessing. I don’t think reliability is a concern on any new car
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max225 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 am
D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:47 am

:dat: I think the 2.0T feels a lot better, personally. It's too bad that it isn't an option with :manuel: but I wasn't getting :manuel: regardless, so whatever. Hopefully the motor doesn't :nuke: as I could see us having this car for 150k miles or more (if we ever actually drive again).
I can see it lasting 100k trouble free, which would be a decade for y’all if I’m guessing. I don’t think reliability is a concern on any new car
I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived :notsure:

But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. :tits: put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit :doe: so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy. :popcorn:
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am
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I can see it lasting 100k trouble free, which would be a decade for y’all if I’m guessing. I don’t think reliability is a concern on any new car
I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived :notsure:

But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. :tits: put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit :doe: so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy. :popcorn:
No, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:08 am
D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am

I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived :notsure:

But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. :tits: put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit :doe: so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy. :popcorn:
No, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:08 am
D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:52 am

I think the motor is Alfa Romeo derived :notsure:

But yeah, who knows how long we'll have it. :tits: put 130K miles on the Fusion in seven years of ownershit :doe: so we'll see. Her commute now is only 12 miles round trip, but we will take trips to the mountains, FL, etc. in this bad boy. :popcorn:
No, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.
I’m looking forward to sending it through some mud holes.
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Apex wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:41 am
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No, the 2.0T is a ground-up corporate engine. Alfa uses a version of the engine, but it didn't come from Alfa. It's actually overbuilt for the power level in the JL. I wouldn't worry about durability one bit.
I’m looking forward to sending it through some mud holes.
You should :tuna:
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Actually it is kinda quick off the line as-is, can def break the rear :225: loose with ease.
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When we were test driving, that 2.4 Renegade was :mindblown: gutless.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:49 am When we were test driving, that 2.4 Renegade was :mindblown: gutless.
Have they not brought the hybrid renegade over yet? That's a perfect "fun" appliance.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:45 am
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I’m looking forward to sending it through some mud holes.
You should :tuna:
I’m not :tuna: anything... from a stop it’ll get the rear tires squirrelly at will.
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Apex wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:55 am
D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:45 am

You should :tuna:
I’m not :tuna: anything... from a stop it’ll get the rear tires squirrelly at will.
Yea, I wouldn't waste the money on :tuna: for :jeep: :butwhy:
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:12 pm
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I’m not :tuna: anything... from a stop it’ll get the rear tires squirrelly at will.
Yea, I wouldn't waste the money on :tuna: for :jeep: :butwhy:
That's why I encouraged him to :doit: , not me :lolol:
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:18 pm
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Yea, I wouldn't waste the money on :tuna: for :jeep: :butwhy:
That's why I encouraged him to :doit: , not me :lolol:
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:18 pm
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Yea, I wouldn't waste the money on :tuna: for :jeep: :butwhy:
That's why I encouraged him to :doit: , not me :lolol:
If wifey needs more wheel speed for mud holes, I’ll grab a set of gears. No :tuna: here unless we catch it. :lol:
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Just paid off the Beemah... wrote a check for $13.7K, I think my second largest after the house down payment. I have worked out a :dill: with a buyer for the car, just awaiting title delivery now.

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D Griff wrote:Just paid off the Beemah... wrote a check for $13.7K, I think my second largest after the house down payment. I have worked out a :dill: with a buyer for the car, just awaiting title delivery now.

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D Griff wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:15 am Just paid off the Beemah... wrote a check for $13.7K, I think my second largest after the house down payment. I have worked out a :dill: with a buyer for the car, just awaiting title delivery now.

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