This is an excellent idea.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Yeah see the problem with that is the suspension is tuned for the stiff sidewalls of the stock dunlop tires. Throw tires with gooey sidewalls on there and you induce a lot of undamped motion. The car is a jigglefest on the 17" + snow tire setup, it would only be worse with 15's. I'd need to throw on a softer suspension to go with it.
The ride settles down on the stock 18" wheels/tires. Its more controlled, far less jiggle. A bit harsher.
Oh yeah, the mods are independent ofDetroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:04 pmEhhhhh, I dunno. My experience when trying to address certain deficiencies, it's a never ending pit.
If you just want it to be more fun with a tune and bigger sway bars or something, I totally get that. But trying to make a car more comfortable or something is almost always impossible.
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
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Oh, that's a no brainer.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pmOh yeah, the mods are independent ofDetroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:04 pm
Ehhhhh, I dunno. My experience when trying to address certain deficiencies, it's a never ending pit.
If you just want it to be more fun with a tune and bigger sway bars or something, I totally get that. But trying to make a car more comfortable or something is almost always impossible.
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I love the way it looks, it was actually pretty fun up in the mountains the other weekend. I think just an exhaust noise of some kind and music streaming would make me like it quite a bit more. It's fantastic as a road trip car, I just often enjoy driving the C5 to work more, especially now that the weather is nice.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:08 pmOhhhhh I see. We're arguing two different things. I was saying not to mod the BMW with the intent of replacing the Vette.troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:06 pm He has a track car and a DD already. Making the DD better for cheap is better than going full
I could see a few cheap modifications being worthwhile, especially if it'll prevent
He's just never really loved the car, and it's doubtful that even small modz will help much. With all the other expenses he's facing, on car shit probably isn't wise at this time.
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Here's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pmOh yeah, the mods are independent ofDetroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:04 pm
Ehhhhh, I dunno. My experience when trying to address certain deficiencies, it's a never ending pit.
If you just want it to be more fun with a tune and bigger sway bars or something, I totally get that. But trying to make a car more comfortable or something is almost always impossible.
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
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Super reasonable requests that could be done for under $1k? I'd say that's the plan.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:34 pmI love the way it looks, it was actually pretty fun up in the mountains the other weekend. I think just an exhaust noise of some kind and music streaming would make me like it quite a bit more. It's fantastic as a road trip car, I just often enjoy driving the C5 to work more, especially now that the weather is nice.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:08 pm
Ohhhhh I see. We're arguing two different things. I was saying not to mod the BMW with the intent of replacing the Vette.
I could see a few cheap modifications being worthwhile, especially if it'll prevent
He's just never really loved the car, and it's doubtful that even small modz will help much. With all the other expenses he's facing, on car shit probably isn't wise at this time.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Sadly from everything I’ve seen, you are correct. I was thinking of just throwing 235/245 on the fronts depending on what’s available. I’ll probably get a few more miles out of the factory fronts for now. I think some kind of exhaust noises would be more bang for buck for me for daily enjoyment.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:34 pmHere's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pm
Oh yeah, the mods are independent of
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
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https://www.awe-tuning.com/h-r-bmw-rear ... adjustableD Griff wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:16 amSadly from everything I’ve seen, you are correct. I was thinking of just throwing 235/245 on the fronts depending on what’s available. I’ll probably get a few more miles out of the factory fronts for now. I think some kind of exhaust noises would be more bang for buck for me for daily enjoyment.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:34 pm
Here's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.
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Front & Rear: 18x9" ET42 with 245/40-18 tires
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Get new wheels with an appropriate offset for the limiting axle and use a spacer on the other axle.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:34 pmHere's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pm
Oh yeah, the mods are independent of
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:34 pmHere's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pm
Oh yeah, the mods are independent of
BMW as my only car just isn't going to work for me, fortunately I can afford to do otherwise. If I had only the $20K for one car, I probably would go for the 370Z or poverty spec C6.
I'm talking basic stuff on the BMW for DD fun:
-Bluetooth
-Some kind of exhaust and/or DP so it isn't silent
-square setup once the fronts wear out (I need to look into this more)
That will likely be it.
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4zilch wrote:Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:34 pm Here's the problem with the square setup, as far as I can tell. A 255 tire width will not not fit on the front without rubbing without ramz with a different offset, e.g. you can't just pick up a set of stock rear 8.5 inch ramz and use them on the front. So even if you got new ramz (esspensive) the fronts would have different offsets and you could not rotate your tires without having them remounted. (Esspensive.) I would love to be told I am about this.
Dem spacerzz
That’s full on ... don’t really want to buy new wheels, maybe when the s wear out.
Also $1200 for a used exhaust?
I’m curious what it would sound like with just a catted down pipe. Cheaper than exhaust and actually makes gainz.
Also $1200 for a used exhaust?
I’m curious what it would sound like with just a catted down pipe. Cheaper than exhaust and actually makes gainz.
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Minimal sound gainz at best I'd bet.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Just run a straight pipe, Abarth style...D Griff wrote:That’s full on ... don’t really want to buy new wheels, maybe when the s wear out.
Also $1200 for a used exhaust?
I’m curious what it would sound like with just a catted down pipe. Cheaper than exhaust and actually makes gainz.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:26 pmJust run a straight pipe, Abarth style...D Griff wrote:That’s full on ... don’t really want to buy new wheels, maybe when the s wear out.
Also $1200 for a used exhaust?
I’m curious what it would sound like with just a catted down pipe. Cheaper than exhaust and actually makes gainz.
Or dat catless chinese DP for $90.
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Some straight piped turbro cars sound incredible.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:26 pmJust run a straight pipe, Abarth style...D Griff wrote:That’s full on ... don’t really want to buy new wheels, maybe when the s wear out.
Also $1200 for a used exhaust?
I’m curious what it would sound like with just a catted down pipe. Cheaper than exhaust and actually makes gainz.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Even if you decide to sell it, won't the bluetooth thing make it a bit more marketable?
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I don't think so, I feel that most would just assume it has it like I did and then be disappointed later
I'm not going to point something like that out unless they ask, it's not a "flaw" just the stupid way it was spec'd/sold.
I also forgot to mention that the windshield chip DIY repair on the Beemer was pretty successful. Thanks to DPlac for bringing it up. I thought this required special tools for some reason, the $15 kit was easy to use and pretty effective, now it's just a tiny dot I don't mind living with.
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He's had if for what, 3 months? That's the relationship equivalent of sleeping with a woman 5 times and saying "I never really loved you."Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:08 pmOhhhhh I see. We're arguing two different things. I was saying not to mod the BMW with the intent of replacing the Vette.troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:06 pm He has a track car and a DD already. Making the DD better for cheap is better than going full
I could see a few cheap modifications being worthwhile, especially if it'll prevent
He's just never really loved the car, and it's doubtful that even small modz will help much. With all the other expenses he's facing, on car shit probably isn't wise at this time.
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I dunno...I fall in and out of love with cars really quickly. I can tell early on how long it will last...and the same with women for the most part.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:50 pmHe's had if for what, 3 months? That's the relationship equivalent of sleeping with a woman 5 times and saying "I never really loved you."Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:08 pm
Ohhhhh I see. We're arguing two different things. I was saying not to mod the BMW with the intent of replacing the Vette.
I could see a few cheap modifications being worthwhile, especially if it'll prevent
He's just never really loved the car, and it's doubtful that even small modz will help much. With all the other expenses he's facing, on car shit probably isn't wise at this time.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I mean it makes sense, the car was purchased for a different reason, unfortunately life decisions can impact that quickly. If things in life never changed (jobs, women, crotchfruit, place of residence) it would be far easier to get a car that would fit the "want".Detroit wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:51 pmI dunno...I fall in and out of love with cars really quickly. I can tell early on how long it will last...and the same with women for the most part.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:50 pm
He's had if for what, 3 months? That's the relationship equivalent of sleeping with a woman 5 times and saying "I never really loved you."