Kamry XSE impressions and further updates

[Tar]

Corolla hatchback?

Comparative study vs used R8

[Apex]

Corolla hatchback?

Comparative study vs used R8

[Desertbreh]

How does the Sahara have less wind noise ?

Tires, so noise from tires AND it's a fewish inches lower to the ground. The fenders also have better aero being closer to the tires.

Drove them back to back last week, the Sahara was surprisingly quiet compared to the Rubicon.

This is pretty interesting stuff.

[Tar]

I'd see what deals there are on S4/S5s used

[Desertbreh]

I'd see what deals there are on S4/S5s used

S5 two doors have the back seat utility of a Camaro.

[max225]

I'd see what deals there are on S4/S5s used

Low 40s at best... but the depreciation may be high on these things. I do like the S4 a fair amount... maintenance/reliability may be key.

[max225]

Corolla hatchback?

i like it, but it is small and it costs as much as a used Golf R.

[max225]

Corolla hatchback?

Comparative study vs used R8

Used R8 is too much money... 100k.
I did consider a used cayman S which is 45-50k. But I am I want to do another toy car.

[troyguitar]

Checked out 13+ Cayman S's which are interesting enough... but 50k... more than 50% of what they were new 5-6 model years later.

So any recommendations from you guys on next vehicle ?
Ideally
<40k Preferably under 30k
20mpg combined or so preferably on regular
somewhat unique and not common vehicle
ok reliability
depreciation of less than 4k a year.

You're describing a used base 16+ Audi TT. The base cars can run on 87 and are still pretty quick.

[max225]

Checked out 13+ Cayman S's which are interesting enough... but 50k... more than 50% of what they were new 5-6 model years later.

So any recommendations from you guys on next vehicle ?
Ideally
<40k Preferably under 30k
20mpg combined or so preferably on regular
somewhat unique and not common vehicle
ok reliability
depreciation of less than 4k a year.

You're describing a used base 16+ Audi TT. The base cars can run on 87 and are still pretty quick.

TT is not bad ? how much do these go for ? I may prefer a S4, less low, 4 real seats etc. If priced the same, I don't know if I'd like to go 2 door "sports" car. There is no point for that type of vehicle for me at this time.

[troyguitar]

You're describing a used base 16+ Audi TT. The base cars can run on 87 and are still pretty quick.

TT is not bad ? how much do these go for ? I may prefer to S4

Base cars are about the same as a mk7 R. $30k would get you a really nice one. It's what I would want for up here if I had the cash. The back seat is useless like a 911 but the hatch is really useful for 2 people. I miss our old 2008 model.

[max225]

TT is not bad ? how much do these go for ? I may prefer to S4

Base cars are about the same as a mk7 R. $30k would get you a really nice one. It's what I would want for up here if I had the cash. The back seat is useless like a 911 but the hatch is really useful for 2 people. I miss our old 2008 model.

Any reason to get it over a used R? Other than being a squashed egg vs egg.

[max225]

Used 2016-17 GTIs are 19-22k for a nice SE or Sport model... which doesn't seem like that much of a discunt over new... Man the used car market is still hot.

[max225]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 78344.html

This thing is like what... 32k msrp or 27k actual paid price new... 2 years and 16k miles later it "only" lost 4k

[max225]

Also those of you that have bought at car-max is going on that they are adding 15% to the advertised price for "taxes and fees" that seems way too high.

[Desertbreh]

Also those of you that have bought at car-max :wtf: is going on that they are adding 15% to the advertised price for "taxes and fees" that seems way too high.

So much irony

[max225]

Also those of you that have bought at car-max :wtf: is going on that they are adding 15% to the advertised price for "taxes and fees" that seems way too high.

So much irony

I was looking for a nickname and it escaped me...
Cunt-max?
Car-min

[troyguitar]

Base cars are about the same as a mk7 R. $30k would get you a really nice one. It's what I would want for up here if I had the cash. The back seat is useless like a 911 but the hatch is really useful for 2 people. I miss our old 2008 model.

Any reason to get it over a used R? Other than being a squashed egg vs egg.

Better handling and badge, a little lower running costs, maybe less depreciation due to rarity.

[max225]

Any reason to get it over a used R? Other than being a squashed egg vs egg.

Better handling and badge, a little lower running costs, maybe less depreciation due to rarity.

Rs tend to keep their value quite well, I thought TT's depreciated into oblivion similar to the Z4?

Isn't it the same chassis/engine/wheel/tire/size/weight?

Quick google reveals :245: s vs :235s: in the golf ? Meh I don't see the point of giving up the utility of the hatch if the price points are similar as seems to be everything else. I don't care for virtual cocks

[Irish]

So much irony

I was looking for a nickname and it escaped me...
Cunt-max?
Car-min

Plac-Max225 ?

[Gberg2119]

Better handling and badge, a little lower running costs, maybe less depreciation due to rarity.

Rs tend to keep their value quite well, I thought TT's depreciated into oblivion similar to the Z4?

Isn't it the same chassis/engine/wheel/tire/size/weight?

Quick google reveals :245: s vs :235s: in the golf ? Meh I don't see the point of giving up the utility of the hatch if the price points are similar as seems to be everything else. I don't care for virtual cocks

No way would I buy a TT over a Gorf. That's

[troyguitar]

Different strokes. It's smaller, lighter, and more stylish for about the same price. There are a number of small tweaks to the body/chassis/suspension that add up. Wheelbase is 5" shorter, wheels are an inch wider, weight is like 400 lbs lower, and you won't see many others.

[max225]

Different strokes. It's smaller, lighter, and more stylish for about the same price. There are a number of small tweaks to the body/chassis/suspension that add up. Wheelbase is 5" shorter, wheels are an inch wider, weight is like 400 lbs lower, and you won't see many others.

400lbs ?
TTs is 3260 lbs
Golf R is 3300lbs

Audi is 165" long and 72" wide
Golf is 168" long and 71" wide

The styling is debatable as both cars are on the uglier side IMO. Mini minivan vs secretary mobile.

the performance should be nearly identical and the practicality of the golf is 2x as good as the audi.

[troyguitar]

Different strokes. It's smaller, lighter, and more stylish for about the same price. There are a number of small tweaks to the body/chassis/suspension that add up. Wheelbase is 5" shorter, wheels are an inch wider, weight is like 400 lbs lower, and you won't see many others.

400lbs ?
TTs is 3260 lbs
Golf R is 3300lbs

Audi is 165" long and 72" wide
Golf is 168" long and 71" wide

The styling is debatable as both cars are on the uglier side IMO. Mini minivan vs secretary mobile.

the performance should be nearly identical and the practicality of the golf is 2x as good as the audi.

Sorry it's "only" 250 lbs, 31xx vs 3400. Wheelbase is 98 vs 103 inches. Runs on 87 vs 91 like you wanted, is very rare on the road and has a less embarrassing badge.

If you think they're for fags though, that's all you need to say. Buy what you like.

[max225]

400lbs ?
TTs is 3260 lbs
Golf R is 3300lbs

Audi is 165" long and 72" wide
Golf is 168" long and 71" wide

The styling is debatable as both cars are on the uglier side IMO. Mini minivan vs secretary mobile.

the performance should be nearly identical and the practicality of the golf is 2x as good as the audi.

Sorry it's "only" 250 lbs, 31xx vs 3400. Wheelbase is 98 vs 103 inches. Runs on 87 vs 91 like you wanted, is very rare on the road and has a less embarrassing badge.

If you think they're for fags though, that's all you need to say. Buy what you like.

Where are you getting the 3100 figure ? Are you comparing the 220hp vs 280hp version? TTS + Golf R have the exact same drivetrain + power rating how can one run on regular and the other one cant?

I don't really care for badges as we discussed unless they are korean.