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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 pm

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You should really try a Crosstranny, just drove in my friends yesterday... it has an amazing marshmellow suspension for city streets.
Dangerously gutless.

If Subaru would put a real drivetrain in that car, they'd sell even more of them.
It was the slowest turd known to man... you stomp the gas... literally stomp...
1 Mississippi
2 Mississippi
3 Mississippi
blender noise...

But he :aintcare: about performance... and pricepoint/awd/etc makes perfect sense.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:42 pm

max225 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 pm
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:38 pm


Dangerously gutless.

If Subaru would put a real drivetrain in that car, they'd sell even more of them.
It was the slowest turd known to man... you stomp the gas... literally stomp...
1 Mississippi
2 Mississippi
3 Mississippi
blender noise...

But he :aintcare: about performance... and pricepoint/awd/etc makes perfect sense.
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:47 pm

Zillon wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:38 pm
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:29 pm

You should really try a Crosstranny, just drove in my friends yesterday... it has an amazing marshmellow suspension for city streets.
Dangerously gutless.

If Subaru would put a real drivetrain in that car, they'd sell even more of them.
Yeah. 1.6T ish 160-180 HP I'd buy one.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:53 pm

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Dangerously gutless.

If Subaru would put a real drivetrain in that car, they'd sell even more of them.
Yeah. 1.6T ish 160-180 HP I'd buy one.
That doesn't seem different enough from the current engine. The 2.0T from the WRX would be a decent fit, but then it'll average 22mpg vs 32mpg and require premium... That's a significant upcharge in operating expense for most of the country... 30% more expensive fuel and 40% less MPG. :oops:

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:57 pm

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:53 pm
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Yeah. 1.6T ish 160-180 HP I'd buy one.
That doesn't seem different enough from the current engine. The 2.0T from the WRX would be a decent fit, but then it'll average 22mpg vs 32mpg and require premium... That's a significant upcharge in operating expense for most of the country... 30% more expensive fuel and 40% less MPG. :oops:
Even a hybrid powertrain with some :scoot: would be an improvement.

The current Crosstrek hybrid is :flaccid:
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:33 pm

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:53 pm
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Yeah. 1.6T ish 160-180 HP I'd buy one.
That doesn't seem different enough from the current engine. The 2.0T from the WRX would be a decent fit, but then it'll average 22mpg vs 32mpg and require premium... That's a significant upcharge in operating expense for most of the country... 30% more expensive fuel and 40% less MPG. :oops:
Same overall HP rating with a turbo would make it much more livable around town.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:35 pm

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That doesn't seem different enough from the current engine. The 2.0T from the WRX would be a decent fit, but then it'll average 22mpg vs 32mpg and require premium... That's a significant upcharge in operating expense for most of the country... 30% more expensive fuel and 40% less MPG. :oops:
Same overall HP rating with a turbo would make it much more livable around town.
I am :notsure: you have seen how baby dick engines act. The is no replacement for displacement. Sub 2 liters is just :disgust: no matter whether you have a snail or not. Unless the car is sub 2500lbs.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 pm

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Same overall HP rating with a turbo would make it much more livable around town.
I am :notsure: you have seen how baby dick engines act. The is no replacement for displacement. Sub 2 liters is just :disgust: no matter whether you have a snail or not. Unless the car is sub 2500lbs.
Civic sport doe

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:27 pm

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I am :notsure: you have seen how baby dick engines act. The is no replacement for displacement. Sub 2 liters is just :disgust: no matter whether you have a snail or not. Unless the car is sub 2500lbs.
Civic sport doe
Less weight/rotating mass to move, doe.

Need torque at a low RPM to spin up AWD and motivate a car that weights 300-400 lbs more.
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:31 pm

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I am :notsure: you have seen how baby dick engines act. The is no replacement for displacement. Sub 2 liters is just :disgust: no matter whether you have a snail or not. Unless the car is sub 2500lbs.
Civic sport doe
It was borderline... 2850lbs which is pretty damn light still... but obviously not “fun” like the mini with 30% more displacement. The R with 2 liters felt good :doe:

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:39 pm

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Civic sport doe
It was borderline... 2850lbs which is pretty damn light still... but obviously not “fun” like the mini with 30% more displacement. The R with 2 liters felt good :doe:
Who cares about fun. I just don’t want to die merging onto the highway.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:41 pm

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:27 pm
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Civic sport doe
Less weight/rotating mass to move, doe.

Need torque at a low RPM to spin up AWD and motivate a car that weights 300-400 lbs more.
Which is why you need the turbo. So we are saying the same thing. AWD civic sport is a CRV and they’re not exactly slugs like the Subaru’s are.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:51 pm

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Less weight/rotating mass to move, doe.

Need torque at a low RPM to spin up AWD and motivate a car that weights 300-400 lbs more.
Which is why you need the turbo. So we are saying the same thing. AWD civic sport is a CRV and they’re not exactly slugs like the Subaru’s are.
It isn't that slow indeed. I wonder how the Fk it goes 0-60 in around 7.7 or so... that's :impressive: for that giant body and baby dick motor and 3500lbs.

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It was borderline... 2850lbs which is pretty damn light still... but obviously not “fun” like the mini with 30% more displacement. The R with 2 liters felt good :doe:
Who cares about fun. I just don’t want to die merging onto the highway.
Is this a thing? I have never felt "too slow" to merge onto a freeway, unless I was in a fully loaded U haul or the likes.Anything under 12 seconds 0-60 should be fine.

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Who cares about fun. I just don’t want to die merging onto the highway.
Is this a thing? I have never felt "too slow" to merge onto a freeway, unless I was in a fully loaded U haul or the likes.Anything under 12 seconds 0-60 should be fine.
You should visit Philly sometime

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:12 pm

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Is this a thing? I have never felt "too slow" to merge onto a freeway, unless I was in a fully loaded U haul or the likes.Anything under 12 seconds 0-60 should be fine.
You should visit Philly sometime
Do I has a couch to crash on :hubba: :wub:

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:58 pm

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You should visit Philly sometime
Do I has a couch to crash on :hubba: :wub:
We have a guest bedroom. You’re welcome to stay if you don’t mind overly enthusiastic pit bulls.

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:17 pm

Old Highways (especially in cities) in the East and rustbelt can have ridiculously short onramps.

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Old Highways (especially in cities) in the East and rustbelt can have ridiculously short onramps.

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Zillon wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:57 pm
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That doesn't seem different enough from the current engine. The 2.0T from the WRX would be a decent fit, but then it'll average 22mpg vs 32mpg and require premium... That's a significant upcharge in operating expense for most of the country... 30% more expensive fuel and 40% less MPG. :oops:
Even a hybrid powertrain with some :scoot: would be an improvement.

The current Crosstrek hybrid is :flaccid:
Isn't the new Crosstrek hybrid/phev like 2 seconds quicker to 60 or something? Still slow but that's like a 20% improvement.

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max225 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:53 pm
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Who cares about fun. I just don’t want to die merging onto the highway.
Is this a thing? I have never felt "too slow" to merge onto a freeway, unless I was in a fully loaded U haul or the likes.Anything under 12 seconds 0-60 should be fine.
I agree I drove the Bang Bus in every North American metropolis and it was fine, over 20 seconds to 60 mph, literally. Power is fun but not needed.

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D Griff wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:51 pm
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Is this a thing? I have never felt "too slow" to merge onto a freeway, unless I was in a fully loaded U haul or the likes.Anything under 12 seconds 0-60 should be fine.
I agree I drove the Bang Bus in every North American metropolis and it was fine, over 20 seconds to 60 mph, literally. Power is fun but not needed.
Not needed when you’re driving around a 20 ton manhattan apartment.

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I agree I drove the Bang Bus in every North American metropolis and it was fine, over 20 seconds to 60 mph, literally. Power is fun but not needed.
Not needed when you’re driving around a 20 ton manhattan apartment.
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I agree I drove the Bang Bus in every North American metropolis and it was fine, over 20 seconds to 60 mph, literally. Power is fun but not needed.
Not needed when you’re driving around a 20 ton manhattan apartment.
It’s definitely nice... but anything sub 10 to 60 is relatively quick when needed.

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Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:56 am

Spent the evening figuring out the 7-pin harness install. Jeep doesn’t exactly give you very clear instructions, so it took me some time to figure out how I wanted to run the wiring to keep it all as clean as possible.

Ran it down the passenger side framerail with the rest of the harness, tied it into the battery, and Tuesday I’ve gotta finish it up with the brake controller and the trailer connector install.

Im not happy with how low the OE 7-pin connector hangs, so I’m going to see if I can recess mount one into the bumper. The OE one is too long to recess mount so I need to see if there’s a slimmer profile one out there.
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