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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:06 am

Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:52 am
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And this is why I should end up with a winch at some point. I'm going to get stuck sooner or later. :lol:
If you want to go out on your own, it's probably not a bad idea.

I've found that the winch was a detriment because it gives me an extra sense of security. I'll try crap now that I never would have before the winch because I know I can get myself unstuck if need be. Not wise, really.

But, I HIGHLY recommend a remote mount winch if you're going to do it. Winches are heavy, and having that thing permanently hanging off the front of the truck adversely impacts handling and fuel efficiency. Being able to take the winch only when you're going wheeling is great, PLUS you can winch from the front or back, which can be hugely beneficial. There's also the added benefit of the anderson power poles at the front and back that you can use to run an air compressor, or even jumpstart another vehicle all without opening the hood.
Storing a remote mounted winch would be my issue right now. I've thought about what you have said about winches in the past a lot lately. Remote makes a ton of sense, for all of the reasons you've mentioned.

What winch do you have for your remote setup?

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:15 am

Apex wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:06 am
Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:52 am

If you want to go out on your own, it's probably not a bad idea.

I've found that the winch was a detriment because it gives me an extra sense of security. I'll try crap now that I never would have before the winch because I know I can get myself unstuck if need be. Not wise, really.

But, I HIGHLY recommend a remote mount winch if you're going to do it. Winches are heavy, and having that thing permanently hanging off the front of the truck adversely impacts handling and fuel efficiency. Being able to take the winch only when you're going wheeling is great, PLUS you can winch from the front or back, which can be hugely beneficial. There's also the added benefit of the anderson power poles at the front and back that you can use to run an air compressor, or even jumpstart another vehicle all without opening the hood.
Storing a remote mounted winch would be my issue right now. I've thought about what you have said about winches in the past a lot lately. Remote makes a ton of sense, for all of the reasons you've mentioned.

What winch do you have for your remote setup?
Ah, yes...I just keep mine in the garage, which you can't do. You could always carry it into your place and put it in a closet or something, it's not huge.

I've got a Warn VR-10s on a Warn multimount cradle. The VR series is Warn's "entry" winch, and the 10k capacity has proven to be ample. I've been pleased overall with it the few times I've used it. Upgrading to the synthetic line was worth the piece of mind as well. Bought it as a black friday deal last year, for a solid deal.

I wired my truck with the Warn wiring kit that includes a solenoid for safety. I recommend the entire setup.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:20 am

Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:15 am
Apex wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:06 am


Storing a remote mounted winch would be my issue right now. I've thought about what you have said about winches in the past a lot lately. Remote makes a ton of sense, for all of the reasons you've mentioned.

What winch do you have for your remote setup?
Ah, yes...I just keep mine in the garage, which you can't do. You could always carry it into your place and put it in a closet or something, it's not huge.

I've got a Warn VR-10s on a Warn multimount cradle. The VR series is Warn's "entry" winch, and the 10k capacity has proven to be ample. I've been pleased overall with it the few times I've used it. Upgrading to the synthetic line was worth the piece of mind as well. Bought it as a black friday deal last year, for a solid deal.

I wired my truck with the Warn wiring kit that includes a solenoid for safety. I recommend the entire setup.
Sounds like I would be interested in a similar type of winch that you have then. 10k capacity with synthetic line. It's going to be a bit before I pull any triggers on this, so the feedback is appreciated.

:like:

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:24 am

Apex wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:20 am
Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:15 am

Ah, yes...I just keep mine in the garage, which you can't do. You could always carry it into your place and put it in a closet or something, it's not huge.

I've got a Warn VR-10s on a Warn multimount cradle. The VR series is Warn's "entry" winch, and the 10k capacity has proven to be ample. I've been pleased overall with it the few times I've used it. Upgrading to the synthetic line was worth the piece of mind as well. Bought it as a black friday deal last year, for a solid deal.

I wired my truck with the Warn wiring kit that includes a solenoid for safety. I recommend the entire setup.
Sounds like I would be interested in a similar type of winch that you have then. 10k capacity with synthetic line. It's going to be a bit before I pull any triggers on this, so the feedback is appreciated.

:like:
I've heard that Smittybilt and other Chinese winches are pretty good for less money. I'm just a bit of brand whore when it comes to something like a winch...where it working or not can be the difference between a fun wheeling trip and a significant (maybe life threatening) problem.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:29 am

Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:24 am
Apex wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:20 am


Sounds like I would be interested in a similar type of winch that you have then. 10k capacity with synthetic line. It's going to be a bit before I pull any triggers on this, so the feedback is appreciated.

:like:
I've heard that Smittybilt and other Chinese winches are pretty good for less money. I'm just a bit of brand whore when it comes to something like a winch...where it working or not can be the difference between a fun wheeling trip and a significant (maybe life threatening) problem.
I have heard a lot of great reviews lately on Smittybilt's X20 line... 10k winch with synthetic line is about 5 hundo... a good cost savings over a Warn. But with a winch, it's something that I would need to work every time. A good warranty does me no good when I'm axle deep in a mud put on the trail and the winch fails.

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:11 pm

Apex wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:29 am
Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:24 am

I've heard that Smittybilt and other Chinese winches are pretty good for less money. I'm just a bit of brand whore when it comes to something like a winch...where it working or not can be the difference between a fun wheeling trip and a significant (maybe life threatening) problem.
I have heard a lot of great reviews lately on Smittybilt's X20 line... 10k winch with synthetic line is about 5 hundo... a good cost savings over a Warn. But with a winch, it's something that I would need to work every time. A good warranty does me no good when I'm axle deep in a mud put on the trail and the winch fails.
IIRC, mine was $650 on sale with rebate. $150 more for piece of mind is worth it to me.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:19 pm

Detroit wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:11 pm
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Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:29 am


I have heard a lot of great reviews lately on Smittybilt's X20 line... 10k winch with synthetic line is about 5 hundo... a good cost savings over a Warn. But with a winch, it's something that I would need to work every time. A good warranty does me no good when I'm axle deep in a mud put on the trail and the winch fails.
IIRC, mine was $650 on sale with rebate. $150 more for piece of mind is worth it to me.
:notbad: I'll keep my eyes open around black-friday for a :dill: like that.
$150 for that piece of mind is worth it to me as well.

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Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:27 pm

Yessssssssss.

Brackets for my OE ZR2 sliders have shipped. ETA is 9/11. :doomed:
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Yessssssssss.

Brackets for my OE ZR2 sliders have shipped. ETA is 9/11. :doomed:
:fuckyeah:

:truk: goes to :dillerman: on 9/11 for gangsta lean TSB.
Wonder what my loaner is gonna be.

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Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:41 pm

Apex wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:19 pm
Zillon wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:27 pm
Yessssssssss.

Brackets for my OE ZR2 sliders have shipped. ETA is 9/11. :doomed:
:fuckyeah:

:truk: goes to :dillerman: on 9/11 for gangsta lean TSB.
Wonder what my loaner is gonna be.
Service managers old Cobalt.
:sawce:

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Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:01 pm

SAWCE wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:41 pm
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:fuckyeah:

:truk: goes to :dillerman: on 9/11 for gangsta lean TSB.
Wonder what my loaner is gonna be.
Service managers old Cobalt.
I'll leave a nice surprise for him then... :hue:

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Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:51 pm

Apex wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:01 pm
SAWCE wrote:
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Service managers old Cobalt.
I'll leave a nice surprise for him then... :hue:
:baby: :poop:
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:55 pm

Zillon wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:51 pm
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I'll leave a nice surprise for him then... :hue:
:baby: :poop:
I've got plenty of that...

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Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:04 pm

Anyone have experience with GMRS radios? Looks like they can be used in conjunction with FRS radios on certain channels. They work better than CBs from what I have read, and the antennas are way smaller for the mounted ones.

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Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:58 pm

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Anyone have experience with GMRS radios? Looks like they can be used in conjunction with FRS radios on certain channels. They work better than CBs from what I have read, and the antennas are way smaller for the mounted ones.
Need a license to operate one legally.
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Zillon wrote:
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Anyone have experience with GMRS radios? Looks like they can be used in conjunction with FRS radios on certain channels. They work better than CBs from what I have read, and the antennas are way smaller for the mounted ones.
Need a license to operate one legally.
There's no test for the license, unlike HAM, and they're good for 10 years.

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Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Hey, look - more :truk: doing :truk: things.

Photos from today's exploratory run - decided to explore Colliers Mills Wildlife Management Area in Jackson and poke around the trails and fireroads there. Trail conditions were fairly dry, only a few holes here and there that still had water in them - thankfully the area drains pretty well. Really amazed with the stock capability of these trucks, though.

Getting started.
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I suppose this is how the wall of death begins...
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A little mud here and there never hurts.
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We did encounter a few areas to test the 4wd systems out. This is much steeper than it looks from up here.
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See?
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I decided to try one of the intermediate lines - slightly rutted, but the top had a breakover that could be tricky.
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Up and over!
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I did make minor contact with the transfer case skid, but nothing major.

Apex's turn to try a line.
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He took the slightly easier route up - a bit wider and less rutted.
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He did take the same way down that I took, though. A little tricky in spots, but nothing crazy.
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We found another challenging area with a few routes to the top - very rutted, one even had a rock garden of sorts. A bit more than I felt like trying today, and shame I didn't take the camera to the top. We'll be back.
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Wrong turn, but good photo op!
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Everything is slowly starting to change - great color on the trees right now.
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Loving these flaps, too.
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Until next time.
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Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:12 pm

Great pics as always, the only use of 4wd I've had with mine was using 4Lo to creep up a shoreline at the lake to jump start the boat :lol:

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Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:14 pm

3rdgenfan wrote:
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Great pics as always, the only use of 4wd I've had with mine was using 4Lo to creep up a shoreline at the lake to jump start the boat :lol:
Hey, he posts!

Apex only used Auto 4wd today - which was impressive. I put it in 4Lo to climb the one hill I did with the ruts and tight breakover. It works. :lol:
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3rdgenfan wrote:
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Great pics as always, the only use of 4wd I've had with mine was using 4Lo to creep up a shoreline at the lake to jump start the boat :lol:
Who dis?

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Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:37 pm

Zillon wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:14 pm
3rdgenfan wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:12 pm
Great pics as always, the only use of 4wd I've had with mine was using 4Lo to creep up a shoreline at the lake to jump start the boat :lol:
Hey, he posts!

Apex only used Auto 4wd today - which was impressive. I put it in 4Lo to climb the one hill I did with the ruts and tight breakover. It works. :lol:
:dat:

The stock capability of these :truk: s, plus OEM skids, is :impressive:
I might look for some ZR2 takeoff tars on the cheap...

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Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:44 pm

Apex wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:37 pm
Zillon wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:14 pm


Hey, he posts!

Apex only used Auto 4wd today - which was impressive. I put it in 4Lo to climb the one hill I did with the ruts and tight breakover. It works. :lol:
:dat:

The stock capability of these :truk: s, plus OEM skids, is :impressive:
I might look for some ZR2 takeoff tars on the cheap...
Yeah, with some tires you'll be plenty capable.

I'll eventually get my 1" lift done. :iono:
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Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:01 pm

Zillon wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:44 pm
Apex wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:37 pm


:dat:

The stock capability of these :truk: s, plus OEM skids, is :impressive:
I might look for some ZR2 takeoff tars on the cheap...
Yeah, with some tires you'll be plenty capable.

I'll eventually get my 1" lift done. :iono:
Such choices, much rubbing doe. Have to find out what I want.

Long term I’m looking at adding some additional skids from the Bison, Bison rear bumper and the MOI front bumper insert. Then Fox suspension lift to run some 32s.

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Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:04 pm

Zillon wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:25 pm
Hey, look - more :truk: doing :truk: things.

Photos from today's exploratory run - decided to explore Colliers Mills Wildlife Management Area in Jackson and poke around the trails and fireroads there. Trail conditions were fairly dry, only a few holes here and there that still had water in them - thankfully the area drains pretty well. Really amazed with the stock capability of these trucks, though.

Getting started.
Image

I suppose this is how the wall of death begins...
Image

A little mud here and there never hurts.
Image

We did encounter a few areas to test the 4wd systems out. This is much steeper than it looks from up here.
Image

See?
Image

I decided to try one of the intermediate lines - slightly rutted, but the top had a breakover that could be tricky.
Image

Image

Image

Up and over!
Image

I did make minor contact with the transfer case skid, but nothing major.

Apex's turn to try a line.
Image

He took the slightly easier route up - a bit wider and less rutted.
Image

He did take the same way down that I took, though. A little tricky in spots, but nothing crazy.
Image

Image

Image

Image

We found another challenging area with a few routes to the top - very rutted, one even had a rock garden of sorts. A bit more than I felt like trying today, and shame I didn't take the camera to the top. We'll be back.
Image

Image

Image

Wrong turn, but good photo op!
Image

Everything is slowly starting to change - great color on the trees right now.
Image

Loving these flaps, too.
Image

Until next time.
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Looks like tons of fun

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