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Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:08 pm

Well, I guess let's discuss things.

Trans-American trail, Trans-NJ trail, Mid-atlantic Backcountry Discovery Route, Daniel Boone Backcountry Byway.

Lots of stuff out there. Have :truk: or :jeep: will travel?
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:14 pm

Dplac - what gear do you carry on your backwoods jaunts?
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:24 pm

Ive seen the jeeps that do this.. And my god they look miserable to drive ON road. :nope:
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I've got a Factor55 hitchlink, a pair of orange shackles, and a Sunferno tow/recovery strap sitting in an amazon list for the Z71 right now.

EDIT: I also tossed in my E-tool shovel under the back seat yesterday too. So that'll always be with me along with a small socket set and blanket. Need to add some 3/8 stuff and add a tool roll for wrenches.
I also carry sunscreen with me, but being a day-walker I need that more than most. :lol:
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Zillon wrote:
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Dplac - what gear do you carry on your backwoods jaunts?
Everything, especially if I'm going alone.

Added a front receiver mount to my truck and wired power front to rear, so that said, #1 is...

Winch
and some winching basics:
Snatch block
tree saver
D-ring shackles (4)

Outside of that:
Receiver recovery attachment
Tow strap
Kinetic recovery rope
Soft shackle (2)
Hatchet - I'll bring the chainsaw if I'm doing some really remote stuff
Basic metric socket set
Air compressor
LED Headlamps (for my head)
Leather gloves
Blanket

Some guys really love the traction mats like maxx traxx or whatever, but I've had varying success with them and they're somewhat big to take around. The winch is just as easy and effective for backwoods stuff since there's trees everywhere. It's rare that I can't get out of a situation with the above.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:29 pm
I've got a Factor55 hitchlink, a pair of orange shackles, and a Sunferno tow/recovery strap sitting in an amazon list for the Z71 right now.

EDIT: I also tossed in my E-tool shovel under the back seat yesterday too. So that'll always be with me along with a small socket set and blanket. Need to add some 3/8 stuff and add a tool roll for wrenches.
I also carry sunscreen with me, but being a day-walker I need that more than most. :lol:
Oh yea, forgot about my small shovel.

I like my hitchlink. :waxer: AF but a really nice piece. Even a cheap chinese one on the back is better than nothing, doe.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Detroit wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:39 pm
Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:29 pm
I've got a Factor55 hitchlink, a pair of orange shackles, and a Sunferno tow/recovery strap sitting in an amazon list for the Z71 right now.

EDIT: I also tossed in my E-tool shovel under the back seat yesterday too. So that'll always be with me along with a small socket set and blanket. Need to add some 3/8 stuff and add a tool roll for wrenches.
I also carry sunscreen with me, but being a day-walker I need that more than most. :lol:
Oh yea, forgot about my small shovel.

I like my hitchlink. :waxer: AF but a really nice piece. Even a cheap chinese one on the back is better than nothing, doe.
I know it's :waxer: AF, but I have a credit on Amazon that basically covers it... But it could also cover a chinese one, shackles, and recovery strap.

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Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:43 pm
Detroit wrote:
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Oh yea, forgot about my small shovel.

I like my hitchlink. :waxer: AF but a really nice piece. Even a cheap chinese one on the back is better than nothing, doe.
I know it's :waxer: AF, but I have a credit on Amazon that basically covers it... But it could also cover a chinese one, shackles, and recovery strap.
Unless you're doing a ton of wheeling, you're probably fine with a cheaper one. You just need something to tug yourself or someone else out with. I've got an old one from Harbor Freight that treated me well for years, but I upgraded out of fear of it eventually dying, though it never did.
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:14 pm

Major :jelly: here. I'd much rather go off roads than on a track... gotta get me a vehicle to do this. For now :popcorn:

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:23 pm

Question for a semi noob. Is there a universal "trail rating" system that basically tells you how difficult a trail is on say... a 1-10 scale?
I.E a 1-3 you can do in a minivan
3-6 you can do in a jeep
7-10 you need a lift+ 2 spares + winch etc?

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:25 pm

Detroit wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:59 pm
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I know it's :waxer: AF, but I have a credit on Amazon that basically covers it... But it could also cover a chinese one, shackles, and recovery strap.
Unless you're doing a ton of wheeling, you're probably fine with a cheaper one. You just need something to tug yourself or someone else out with. I've got an old one from Harbor Freight that treated me well for years, but I upgraded out of fear of it eventually dying, though it never did.
I think I might :scrooge: on this. I probably won't wheel enough to warrant the :waxer: piece.

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max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:23 pm
Question for a semi noob. Is there a universal "trail rating" system that basically tells you how difficult a trail is on say... a 1-10 scale?
I.E a 1-3 you can do in a minivan
3-6 you can do in a jeep
7-10 you need a lift+ 2 spares + winch etc?
IDK if it's universal, but the offroad parks that I know of have a system that's similar to the ski difficult system. Ie. Green is easy and can be done by most stock rigs, blue is intermediate might require some modifications to tackle all obstacles, and black and red are difficult and you can expect body damage.

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max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:14 pm
Major :jelly: here. I'd much rather go off roads than on a track... gotta get me a vehicle to do this. For now :popcorn:
Yeah the Mid Atlantic trail deal looks super cool.
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Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:28 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:23 pm
Question for a semi noob. Is there a universal "trail rating" system that basically tells you how difficult a trail is on say... a 1-10 scale?
I.E a 1-3 you can do in a minivan
3-6 you can do in a jeep
7-10 you need a lift+ 2 spares + winch etc?
IDK if it's universal, but the offroad parks that I know of have a system that's similar to the ski difficult system. Ie. Green is easy and can be done by most stock rigs, blue is intermediate might require some modifications to tackle all obstacles, and black and red are difficult and you can expect body damage.
Interesting. Not much of a range though, with the green blue black. So say... a stock rubicon should be able to do a blue?

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Desertbreh wrote:
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max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:14 pm
Major :jelly: here. I'd much rather go off roads than on a track... gotta get me a vehicle to do this. For now :popcorn:
Yeah the Mid Atlantic trail deal looks super cool.
I really want to do Monument Valley/Utah/Moab 1 week road trip.

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IDK if it's universal, but the offroad parks that I know of have a system that's similar to the ski difficult system. Ie. Green is easy and can be done by most stock rigs, blue is intermediate might require some modifications to tackle all obstacles, and black and red are difficult and you can expect body damage.
Interesting. Not much of a range though, with the green blue black. So say... a stock rubicon should be able to do a blue?
Yeah, the difficulty of the actual trails is going to vary a bit with the simple system. Easier blues I would say a stock Rubicon can handle. More difficult ones they are either going to need a bunch of experience or some bigger tires.

Not sure what it's like out in places like Moab, but this is east-coast for ya.

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Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:37 pm

This is what I have in the rear receiver: https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-29312 ... lt+shackle
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Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:33 pm
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Interesting. Not much of a range though, with the green blue black. So say... a stock rubicon should be able to do a blue?
Yeah, the difficulty of the actual trails is going to vary a bit with the simple system. Easier blues I would say a stock Rubicon can handle. More difficult ones they are either going to need a bunch of experience or some bigger tires.

Not sure what it's like out in places like Moab, but this is east-coast for ya.
In cali it is a bit odd... this is in my recollection.
There is "high clearance recommended" (tons of minivans)
"high clearance required" (still fun)
"high clearance 4x4 required" (couldn't make it on a suburban) (scratched up my WJ)

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Desertbreh wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:29 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:14 pm
Major :jelly: here. I'd much rather go off roads than on a track... gotta get me a vehicle to do this. For now :popcorn:
Yeah the Mid Atlantic trail deal looks super cool.
:dat:

You looked into the DBBB?

https://www.sfwda.org/dbbb/
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This is what I have in the rear receiver: https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-29312 ... lt+shackle
:dat: is what we have for the GC.

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Yeah, the difficulty of the actual trails is going to vary a bit with the simple system. Easier blues I would say a stock Rubicon can handle. More difficult ones they are either going to need a bunch of experience or some bigger tires.

Not sure what it's like out in places like Moab, but this is east-coast for ya.
In cali it is a bit odd... this is in my recollection.
There is "high clearance recommended" (tons of minivans)
"high clearance required" (still fun)
"high clearance 4x4 required" (couldn't make it on a suburban) (scratched up my WJ)
That seems to be even more vague than the green/blue/black. :lol:

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Apex wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:40 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:38 pm


In cali it is a bit odd... this is in my recollection.
There is "high clearance recommended" (tons of minivans)
"high clearance required" (still fun)
"high clearance 4x4 required" (couldn't make it on a suburban) (scratched up my WJ)
That seems to be even more vague than the green/blue/black. :lol:
It is ugh... I was just curious if some group of "enthusiasts" maintains a trail/log difficulty rating.

It seems that most rate it as easy/moderate/difficult difficult being more for bragging rights than fun.

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Zillon wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:39 pm
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Yeah the Mid Atlantic trail deal looks super cool.
:dat:

You looked into the DBBB?

https://www.sfwda.org/dbbb/
Also bad ass. Nice way to spend a few days off.
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