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Also, I'll be riding upstairs on a 747 in a couple weeks. I'm very excited about that.
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Well Newark being a United hub have been semi-aggressively been trying to stop as much competition as they can. Im talking about Newark specifically here but they are buying rights to slots that some international airlines want/need to decrease competition. They are now going against Emirates for adding a second flight to Newark. Posting billboards and ads in surrounding areas of the airport. Speaking how bad they are for the us economy and "americans". There are lots of airlines that want to do daily flights to EWR but there just isn't any slots/gates available. If I'm not mistaken the only airline that did non stop service from newark to Athens was Delta, and it isn't a daily flight. IIRC, it was 3 times a week. But now Emirates flies there daily, on a much nicer aircraft, with better amenities and service.

I am glad all these foreign airlines are coming in, they really are making the big 3 work.

Primera is advertising $99 one way from Newark to Paris, I mean it'll probably be during an offseason flight but still for a long weekend for ~$200 r/t, why not.
The Emirates thing is a bit different.

So traditionally a foreign airline can go:
Us > their country > third country

The Emirates thing goes:
Us > third country > their country

Total BS.
Yes, that I understand. But the added flight is non-stop from Newark to Dubai.

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:43 pm

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:36 pm
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The Emirates thing is a bit different.

So traditionally a foreign airline can go:
Us > their country > third country

The Emirates thing goes:
Us > third country > their country

Total BS.
Yes, that I understand. But the added flight is non-stop from Newark to Dubai.
I suspect if they dropped the Athens flight they wouldn't get any resistance on a Dubai flight.

I have to say, Dubai is an awful spot for a layover. It breaks long trips into one super long haul and one awkwardly short one. I prefer London or Frankfort any day of the week.
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I'm flying Aer Lingus to the UK in July. Flight was $750 round trip in the summer, vs $1300 with American.

Route is PHL to Dublin to Manchester, with a 90 minute layover in Dublin on the way there, 4 hours on the return leg.

Nice thing is Dublin has USA Pre-Clearance so after we take the puddle jumper from MAN to DUB we do all the US immigration stuff - including my entry on my Green Card - in DUB, and when we land back in PHL we just pick up the bags and go as if we were a domestic arrival.

Aer Lingus apparently leased a bunch of new 757's for their PHL, EWR and BOS expansion that started in early 2018. It'll be interesting to see what a transatlantic flight on a narrow body jet will be like - the handful of times I've done it it's been on a twin aisle wide body jawn.

757 from PHL>DUB for 6.5 hours and a 320 from DUB>MAN for 55 minutes.

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Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:29 am

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I'm flying Aer Lingus to the UK in July. Flight was $750 round trip in the summer, vs $1300 with American.

Route is PHL to Dublin to Manchester, with a 90 minute layover in Dublin on the way there, 4 hours on the return leg.

Nice thing is Dublin has USA Pre-Clearance so after we take the puddle jumper from MAN to DUB we do all the US immigration stuff - including my entry on my Green Card - in DUB, and when we land back in PHL we just pick up the bags and go as if we were a domestic arrival.

Aer Lingus apparently leased a bunch of new 757's for their PHL, EWR and BOS expansion that started in early 2018. It'll be interesting to see what a transatlantic flight on a narrow body jet will be like - the handful of times I've done it it's been on a twin aisle wide body jawn.

757 from PHL>DUB for 6.5 hours and a 320 from DUB>MAN for 55 minutes.
I LOVE that pre-clearance in Dublin. Last time I flew on them was on one of their oldddd A330. It was fine. Flight attendants were all 25 and drop dead gorgeous.
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The only thing I’m a bit worried about is the short layover in Dublin, but AL and DUB have really pushed that it’s a quick and seamless transfer in the same terminal, with a whole bunch of airport employees there to ensure everything is smooth.

I’ve never actually flown anywhere with a connecting flight, so this should be interesting.

I’m trying to figure out what the deal is catching the connection in Dublin.... I should be staying airside in the same terminal once we arrive so I wonder if We’ll have to go through immigration or not before we head over to Manchester.

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The only thing I’m a bit worried about is the short layover in Dublin, but AL and DUB have really pushed that it’s a quick and seamless transfer in the same terminal, with a whole bunch of airport employees there to ensure everything is smooth.

I’ve never actually flown anywhere with a connecting flight, so this should be interesting.

I’m trying to figure out what the deal is catching the connection in Dublin.... I should be staying airside in the same terminal once we arrive so I wonder if We’ll have to go through immigration or not before we head over to Manchester.
*Probably* as you're entering the EU in Dublin.

Immigration there was lightening quick.
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:34 am

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:43 pm
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Yes, that I understand. But the added flight is non-stop from Newark to Dubai.
I suspect if they dropped the Athens flight they wouldn't get any resistance on a Dubai flight.

I have to say, Dubai is an awful spot for a layover. It breaks long trips into one super long haul and one awkwardly short one. I prefer London or Frankfort any day of the week.
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:46 am

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Bender wrote:
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I suspect if they dropped the Athens flight they wouldn't get any resistance on a Dubai flight.

I have to say, Dubai is an awful spot for a layover. It breaks long trips into one super long haul and one awkwardly short one. I prefer London or Frankfort any day of the week.
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Waging brohad with :mahtroy: :impressive:
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:47 pm

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:wat:
Do you even geography Wron?
Better than most, Dirk. I'm just :notsure: if you're writing bro-jihad or...? And how are Frankfort and :mahtroy: related?

Your 5/7 posts are usually so laser focused and spot on clear, I'm shocked I'm not tracking with you here.
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:56 pm

Bender wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:12 am
fledonfoot wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:41 am
The only thing I’m a bit worried about is the short layover in Dublin, but AL and DUB have really pushed that it’s a quick and seamless transfer in the same terminal, with a whole bunch of airport employees there to ensure everything is smooth.

I’ve never actually flown anywhere with a connecting flight, so this should be interesting.

I’m trying to figure out what the deal is catching the connection in Dublin.... I should be staying airside in the same terminal once we arrive so I wonder if We’ll have to go through immigration or not before we head over to Manchester.
*Probably* as you're entering the EU in Dublin.

Immigration there was lightening quick.
That's what I've read.

Thankfully the airport is set up for it, and with it being an Aer Lingus connecting flight I won't have to deal with baggage.

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Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:22 pm

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Do you even geography Wron?
Better than most, Dirk. I'm just :notsure: if you're writing bro-jihad or...? And how are Frankfort and :mahtroy: related?

Your 5/7 posts are usually so laser focused and spot on clear, I'm shocked I'm not tracking with you here.
Frankfort is the capital of Kaintuck breh.

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Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:24 pm

Frankfurt dang it
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:48 pm

Desertbreh wrote:
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:47 pm


Better than most, Dirk. I'm just :notsure: if you're writing bro-jihad or...? And how are Frankfort and :mahtroy: related?

Your 5/7 posts are usually so laser focused and spot on clear, I'm shocked I'm not tracking with you here.
Frankfort is the capital of Kaintuck breh.
Ah. :rolleyes: :derp:
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Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:27 pm

Saw Lufthansas new Livery on their 747-8 a few days ago. Didnt get a chance to snap a picture.

For those who may not know how the new one looks
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Its like Qantas livery but in blue

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Saw Lufthansas new Livery on their 747-8 a few days ago. Didnt get a chance to snap a picture.

For those who may not know how the new one looks
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Its like Qantas livery but in blue
That's pretty.

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Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:16 pm

Bender wrote:
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09vdubgti wrote:
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Saw Lufthansas new Livery on their 747-8 a few days ago. Didnt get a chance to snap a picture.

For those who may not know how the new one looks
Image

Its like Qantas livery but in blue
That's pretty.

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Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:17 pm

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Saw Lufthansas new Livery on their 747-8 a few days ago. Didnt get a chance to snap a picture.

For those who may not know how the new one looks
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Its like Qantas livery but in blue
I'm :( that United retired their fleet of 747's. Such an awesome plane.
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That's pretty.

Top floor of a 747 for me on Friday!
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I'll take some pictures. It's one of the recently redone BA ones. That said, it's still the normal BA business class.
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wap wrote:
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09vdubgti wrote:
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Saw Lufthansas new Livery on their 747-8 a few days ago. Didnt get a chance to snap a picture.

For those who may not know how the new one looks
Image

Its like Qantas livery but in blue
I'm :( that United retired their fleet of 747's. Such an awesome plane.
I'm sorta going out of my way to take this flight. I've grown to love the 787 so much but I want to fly in a 747 at least once.
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I'm :( that United retired their fleet of 747's. Such an awesome plane.
I'm sorta going out of my way to take this flight. I've grown to love the 787 so much but I want to fly in a 747 at least once.
I flew in a 747 from JFK to LHR several years ago - IIRC it was British Airways or Virgin.

My grandmother died on 12/29/99. We had to get the first flight we could to go back for her funeral and final arrangements. There was only one flight available.

Our flight departed at 5PM on 12/31/99 and was set to arrive in London 6AM on 1/1/00.

There were twelve other people on the flight thanks to Y2K. Once we were airborne, we were all moved upstairs, and we were all served first class meals. Several of them. Once 7PM hit (0000 GMT) they brought out a couple of bottles of champagne and popped them, and were handing it out saying "Happy new year!". Flight attendant handed me a glass... not being a champagne fan I said no, and said "besides, I'm only 16"

"Darling, it's after midnight at 30,000 feet on Y2K and we're not falling out of the sky. We've earned this"

I drank it.

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Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:34 pm

fledonfoot wrote:
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Bender wrote:
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I'm sorta going out of my way to take this flight. I've grown to love the 787 so much but I want to fly in a 747 at least once.
I flew in a 747 from JFK to LHR several years ago - IIRC it was British Airways or Virgin.

My grandmother died on 12/29/99. We had to get the first flight we could to go back for her funeral and final arrangements. There was only one flight available.

Our flight departed at 5PM on 12/31/99 and was set to arrive in London 6AM on 1/1/00.

There were twelve other people on the flight thanks to Y2K. Once we were airborne, we were all moved upstairs, and we were all served first class meals. Several of them. Once 7PM hit (0000 GMT) they brought out a couple of bottles of champagne and popped them, and were handing it out saying "Happy new year!". Flight attendant handed me a glass... not being a champagne fan I said no, and said "besides, I'm only 16"

"Darling, it's after midnight at 30,000 feet on Y2K and we're not falling out of the sky. We've earned this"

I drank it.
Now that's a travel story!
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Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:48 pm

fledonfoot wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:26 pm
Bender wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:46 pm


I'm sorta going out of my way to take this flight. I've grown to love the 787 so much but I want to fly in a 747 at least once.
I flew in a 747 from JFK to LHR several years ago - IIRC it was British Airways or Virgin.

My grandmother died on 12/29/99. We had to get the first flight we could to go back for her funeral and final arrangements. There was only one flight available.

Our flight departed at 5PM on 12/31/99 and was set to arrive in London 6AM on 1/1/00.

There were twelve other people on the flight thanks to Y2K. Once we were airborne, we were all moved upstairs, and we were all served first class meals. Several of them. Once 7PM hit (0000 GMT) they brought out a couple of bottles of champagne and popped them, and were handing it out saying "Happy new year!". Flight attendant handed me a glass... not being a champagne fan I said no, and said "besides, I'm only 16"

"Darling, it's after midnight at 30,000 feet on Y2K and we're not falling out of the sky. We've earned this"

I drank it.
That's such a :fuckyeah: story.

Did you visit the mile-high club with said flight attendant?
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Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:30 pm

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I'm :( that United retired their fleet of 747's. Such an awesome plane.
I'm sorta going out of my way to take this flight. I've grown to love the 787 so much but I want to fly in a 747 at least once.
787's are great planes. I've only flown one, on LOT, but it was really nice. Triple 7's are nice too, as are A340's, but 747's are just special to me, maybe because I remember when they first came out and they were so :mindblown: yuuge to see them flying overhead.

Have you not flown one before?
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