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Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:15 pm
by Johnny_P
coogles wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:57 am
[user not found] wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:44 pm

Riser stem would help, and getting a fit analysis done would also help.

Any proper bike shop should have someone trained in bike fit and body geometry.
If you do get a "proper" bike fit, be sure you're clear about what you intend to be doing with the bike, though. I'm pretty damn bendy and plenty flexible enough to get into the drops, but not necessary in cycling condition for it, nor was I ever planning of doing any racing of any kind. But when I got a free fitting on my CAAD10 when I bought it, the guy put on a longer stem and because I'm already leggy for my height, the drop + reach to the bars was REALLY excessive for anything other than short crit racing. About 90 minutes on that thing was all I could stand, and it made me never want to ride it. Couple that with a stiff aluminum frame and tiny 23c tires and that bike did nothing but sit for years.

I rode a size larger Emonda SL last summer and, between taller head tube, less seat post sticking out, larger tires and carbon frame, it felt like I could have ridden that bike for hours and not complained too much. Had I bought a Madone one size up I might have actually enjoyed cycling to some degree.
Sometimes its a pretty small change that makes a huge difference. My All City came stock with a 110mm stem. I had the shop switch it to a 90mm based on some measurements I took. Ended up being bang on and I could ride it for hours. The 110 would have stretched me out way too far but it's hard to discern in a 20 minute ride.

Its why I sold my Cervelo. I was too stretched out on it, it wasn't comfortable to my lower back. I put an 80mm stem on it which helped but then the handling got wonky because it was designed for a 120mm stem, and the center of gravity went too far back with the 80. GOTS TO GO, DOE.

A good bike fit will get you pretty close to ideal on whatever you own though.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:23 pm
by D Griff
I need to stop talking to y'all... giving me ze wants to do a thing :boxodicks:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:26 pm
by Apex
D Griff wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:23 pm I need to stop talking to y'all... giving me ze wants to do a thing :boxodicks:
Rallon M20. :doit:
You know you want to.


Fuck, I thought you were fled for a second. Carry on.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:57 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:11 pm

Yeah sadly I think many companies have this sort of policy. That blows man. Get the rear triangle from them and paint match it with spray bike or something?
Could probably get the bodyshop at work to paint it whatever color he wants.
Solid idea

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 pm
by Apex
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:11 pm

Yeah sadly I think many companies have this sort of policy. That blows man. Get the rear triangle from them and paint match it with spray bike or something?
Could probably get the bodyshop at work to paint it whatever color he wants.
Sticker bomb :doe:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:03 pm
by Johnny_P
Apex wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 pm
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm

Could probably get the bodyshop at work to paint it whatever color he wants.
Sticker bomb :doe:
I have plenty left from when I bombed my seatpost.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:07 pm
by D Griff
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:11 pm

Yeah sadly I think many companies have this sort of policy. That blows man. Get the rear triangle from them and paint match it with spray bike or something?
Could probably get the bodyshop at work to paint it whatever color he wants.
:jimp: in4 metallic pink or :poop: .

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:40 pm
by Apex
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:02 pm
Apex wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 pm

Sticker bomb :doe:
I might have just enough :neek: left.
:evilplan:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:00 pm
by fledonfoot
Owner of the bike shop just happened to give me the East Coast Sales Manager's contact information.

From the email I sent him:
"I'll put it to you this way: I am the Service Manager of a Toyota dealership so I'm going to use a scenario I think we should both be familiar with. Let's say you bought a higher end orange 4Runner a couple of years ago. You end up having an issue with the tailgate that is covered under warranty and it needs to be replaced. What would your answer be if I came out to you and said "Sorry, I can't do the same color. Your choice is red and black, or black and green"?
Would you accept that? Not only that, how would that reflect upon my brand and my dealership (like many bike shops, we are independent franchises of the manufacturer) when you're driving around in a truck that looks like that? When people ask you about it, what would you say to them... and what would they think about the brand when you told them what the options were?

I feel this is exactly the same scenario on Orbea's end. "

I don't have high hopes for this, but we'll see.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm
by D Griff
fledonfoot wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:00 pm Owner of the bike shop just happened to give me the East Coast Sales Manager's contact information.

From the email I sent him:
"I'll put it to you this way: I am the Service Manager of a Toyota dealership so I'm going to use a scenario I think we should both be familiar with. Let's say you bought a higher end orange 4Runner a couple of years ago. You end up having an issue with the tailgate that is covered under warranty and it needs to be replaced. What would your answer be if I came out to you and said "Sorry, I can't do the same color. Your choice is red and black, or black and green"?
Would you accept that? Not only that, how would that reflect upon my brand and my dealership (like many bike shops, we are independent franchises of the manufacturer) when you're driving around in a truck that looks like that? When people ask you about it, what would you say to them... and what would they think about the brand when you told them what the options were?

I feel this is exactly the same scenario on Orbea's end. "

I don't have high hopes for this, but we'll see.
:notwrong:

Hopefully they can do something to help you out.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:11 pm
by Desertbreh
SAWCE wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:29 am
troyguitar wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:41 pm I'll dance in a dance class NFG since I'm being told exactly what to do, the problem I have with general dancing is that I have no idea what to do.

"Just have fun!"?

:bruh:

Fun with music for me is playing guitar, singing, or just plain listening to it. Not failing about or shaking my ass.
:dat: Id happily learn a structured dance and do some salsa or fuck, even line dancing. But just a free-for-all on the dance floor? No thanks Jeff.
:dat:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:18 pm
by Johnny_P
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Dat beer delivery vehicle doe.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:57 pm
by fledonfoot
[user not found] wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:11 pm

Yeah sadly I think many companies have this sort of policy. That blows man. Get the rear triangle from them and paint match it with spray bike or something?
Could probably get the bodyshop at work to paint it whatever color he wants.
And that would void the warranty.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:02 pm
by fledonfoot
They’ve refused to do anything again.

A short reply back reminding them In a round about way this will cost them more in lost sales than It would to give me a frame in ANY color (as long as both halves match), and I’ll happily tell anyone who asks about it, and my wife will probably put it on her YouTube channel too.

At this point, I’ll just take the black half, buy a Ripmo V2 and say fuck it.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:37 pm
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:02 pm They’ve refused to do anything again.

A short reply back reminding them In a round about way this will cost them more in lost sales than It would to give me a frame in ANY color (as long as both halves match), and I’ll happily tell anyone who asks about it, and my wife will probably put it on her YouTube channel too.

At this point, I’ll just take the black half, buy a Ripmo V2 and say fuck it.
On the plus side you get a working bike back.

On the negative side it doesn’t match and has no resale.

:rage: :sad:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:06 pm
by fledonfoot
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:37 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:02 pm They’ve refused to do anything again.

A short reply back reminding them In a round about way this will cost them more in lost sales than It would to give me a frame in ANY color (as long as both halves match), and I’ll happily tell anyone who asks about it, and my wife will probably put it on her YouTube channel too.

At this point, I’ll just take the black half, buy a Ripmo V2 and say fuck it.
On the plus side you get a working bike back.

On the negative side it doesn’t match and has no resale.

:rage: :sad:
Exactly. I’ll keep it as a beater and buy a new main whip.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 am
by Johnny_P
https://theradavist.com/2020/03/shiftin ... lly-cache/

Knolly Cache titanium gravel bike :drool:

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They make a steel one too but I can't find any information on the tubeset they use for it.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:02 pm
by Johnny_P
Cross bike front tire was flat today. Picked up a shard of glass and the stan's didn't seal it.

We'll see if its flat in the AM. Left it pointing down on the stand to hopefully get more sealant there.

That's another $60-70 plus re-taping the rim and even more stans sealant. :sad:

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:04 am
by coogles
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 am https://theradavist.com/2020/03/shiftin ... lly-cache/

Knolly Cache titanium gravel bike :drool:

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They make a steel one too but I can't find any information on the tubeset they use for it.
That's pretty dope, wonder how that fit feels versus a typical gravel/cx bike with a more traditional road geometry.

I dream of ditching my old 26er for a nice gravel/cx bike like a Salsa Vaya or something, but I'm feeling way too :scrooge: right now.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:05 am
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:02 pm Cross bike front tire was flat today. Picked up a shard of glass and the stan's didn't seal it.

We'll see if its flat in the AM. Left it pointing down on the stand to hopefully get more sealant there.

That's another $60-70 plus re-taping the rim and even more stans sealant. :sad:
Can always pull it off, patch the inside of the tire, and reinstall.

Also, re-tape? :butwhy:
Just a hunch. Last tire I pulled off ended up taking some of the tape with it.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:06 am
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:56 am
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:05 am

Just a hunch. Last tire I pulled off ended up taking some of the tape with it.
Weird. I rarely re-tape the wheels.
It's a pain in the ass, really. I find tubeless to be mostly a pain to deal with. Probably great out west where you routinely run over cactus. I used to get 1-2 flats a week in San Antonio.

Run lower pressures though, that's nice. Makes the tires a lot more supple in general so it's a good technology. Keeps getting better as well.

I might try some new tires though. These WTB Nanos are great overall, good grip and roll nice, but I get a decent amount of flats with them so puncture resistance could be better. I hear good things about the Maxxis Ramblers and Vittoria Terrenos.

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Keep in mind, I do 50/50 road/packed gravel and MTB singletrack.

Re: Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:30 am
by troyguitar
Tubeless definitely sounds like a PITA. I top off the tubes in my WTB Nanos maybe once every 2 weeks. Dunno about puncture resistance since I don't have many miles on them, but I do tend to ride on the shoulder of the road so if there's going to be glass and shit I'll go through it.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:08 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:17 am I ran the Ramblers in a 38C for UnPAved, and found them to be pretty awesome for packed gravel and the road, and they held their own on the rougher sections of trail (rocks, jeep trail, etc).

I'm very happy with them. They roll surprisingly well on pavement.

I do a lot more packed gravel/road riding than singletrack, so I stick to my 32C Maxxis Refuse tires unless I'm doing an event that has rougher stuff.
Nice. I might just order a pair. I don’t think this front tire will last. It sealed but that shard was like 1/4” long. I imagine it’ll just open back up when rolling.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:08 pm
by D Griff
I think I'm just going to order new handlebar tape and pedals for the Raleigh and call it good for now. It meets my needs for the time without :troywax:

When I get back to commuting to work, I'll probably just ride the Whorbea NFG. Upon further consideration, the drop bars are just fine if you don't have a heavy backpack on and aren't riding at rush hour on roads that suck.

Dem bicicletas, doe

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:30 pm
by fledonfoot
Orbea is painting a rear triangle for me to match the bike. ETA is 3 months.

I’m going to build a fun hardtail, and rent a bike when it’s time to hit the bike parks.

:boxodicks: incoming.