Dem bicicletas, doe
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3 rides in the last year. It's more than[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 11:42 pm Man, between the Tennessee trip, the deck project, all the rain, and all the rain... I haven't touched my bikes since the beginning of the month.
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This is what my dad built. He loves it.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I was surprised by it. Way more plush than the 429 Trail. Rode more like the Switchblade. But the tiny wheels are just more of a riot. It has a ton of plow into shit ability while also remaining easy to loft into the air and couch like when you're pedaling.
The Hightower I rented in Sedona was a dump truck in comparison. Pedaled ok and rode well, but didn't have the descending capability, or loft-ability this did, and had some definite low speed/climbing wheel flop typical of long wheelbase 29ers.
I tested a Mach 6 same day as the 5.5. And I think the 6 actually climbed better. Could have been down to the tires, they were more aggressive. But I noticed wheel flop on that bike. And, it had the same "big bike" feel the Specialized Stumpjumper had, where it just wanted to party downhill but around tighter things or over logs or whatever it was kind of a handful.
I think they hit a pretty sweet spot with the 5.5. Its like a longer travel 5010, maybe a little less jumpy than that bike, but more confident and pedals way better.
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Did you buy one yet?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:52 pmI was surprised by it. Way more plush than the 429 Trail. Rode more like the Switchblade. But the tiny wheels are just more of a riot. It has a ton of plow into shit ability while also remaining easy to loft into the air and couch like when you're pedaling.
The Hightower I rented in Sedona was a dump truck in comparison. Pedaled ok and rode well, but didn't have the descending capability, or loft-ability this did, and had some definite low speed/climbing wheel flop typical of long wheelbase 29ers.
I tested a Mach 6 same day as the 5.5. And I think the 6 actually climbed better. Could have been down to the tires, they were more aggressive. But I noticed wheel flop on that bike. And, it had the same "big bike" feel the Specialized Stumpjumper had, where it just wanted to party downhill but around tighter things or over logs or whatever it was kind of a handful.
I think they hit a pretty sweet spot with the 5.5. Its like a longer travel 5010, maybe a little less jumpy than that bike, but more confident and pedals way better.
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Dude, the spec and price are retarded. I'd want a Sram Eagle one (I like Eagle better than Shimano, and Shimano is going 12 speed on their new stuff just announced like last week, and will require special hub bodies so you'd be buying an instantly outdated machine) hopefully with a Fox36 Fit4 fork and a DPX2. Well scratch the DPX2 because its only on the dentist builds so you're stuck with the smaller DPS which is probably fine.Apex wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:54 pmDid you buy one yet?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:52 pm
I was surprised by it. Way more plush than the 429 Trail. Rode more like the Switchblade. But the tiny wheels are just more of a riot. It has a ton of plow into shit ability while also remaining easy to loft into the air and couch like when you're pedaling.
The Hightower I rented in Sedona was a dump truck in comparison. Pedaled ok and rode well, but didn't have the descending capability, or loft-ability this did, and had some definite low speed/climbing wheel flop typical of long wheelbase 29ers.
I tested a Mach 6 same day as the 5.5. And I think the 6 actually climbed better. Could have been down to the tires, they were more aggressive. But I noticed wheel flop on that bike. And, it had the same "big bike" feel the Specialized Stumpjumper had, where it just wanted to party downhill but around tighter things or over logs or whatever it was kind of a handful.
I think they hit a pretty sweet spot with the 5.5. Its like a longer travel 5010, maybe a little less jumpy than that bike, but more confident and pedals way better.
"XO1 Eagle Race" which is really a hodgepodge of XO1, X1, and GX, $5500 and Fox36 Grip and a throwaway wheelset
"XO1 Eagle Pro" which is all XO1, $6400 and Fox36 Fit4, and a decent wheelset
Its just painful. Especially when a Trance Advanced 2 is $4300 and comes with a Fox36 Fit4, DPX2 rear, Sram NX (a downgrade from XO1 for sure), but has a carbon wheelset to make up for it. $2100 less, better suspension, downgrade on drivetrain (1 shifter, 1 derailleur, 1 cassette lol).
The sucks on this.
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The does suck on it. So go ride a Trance? I think Sourland Cycles has some demo bikes.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:04 pmDude, the spec and price are retarded. I'd want a Sram Eagle one (I like Eagle better than Shimano, and Shimano is going 12 speed on their new stuff just announced like last week, and will require special hub bodies so you'd be buying an instantly outdated machine) hopefully with a Fox36 Fit4 fork and a DPX2. Well scratch the DPX2 because its only on the dentist builds so you're stuck with the smaller DPS which is probably fine.
"XO1 Eagle Race" which is really a hodgepodge of XO1, X1, and GX, $5500 and Fox36 Grip and a throwaway wheelset
"XO1 Eagle Pro" which is all XO1, $6400 and Fox36 Fit4, and a decent wheelset
Its just painful. Especially when a Trance Advanced 2 is $4300 and comes with a Fox36 Fit4, DPX2 rear, Sram NX (a downgrade from XO1 for sure), but has a carbon wheelset to make up for it. $2100 less, better suspension, downgrade on drivetrain (1 shifter, 1 derailleur, 1 cassette lol).
The sucks on this.
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Yea, but you have the money and this is your main hobby it seems....so just already.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:04 pmDude, the spec and price are retarded. I'd want a Sram Eagle one (I like Eagle better than Shimano, and Shimano is going 12 speed on their new stuff just announced like last week, and will require special hub bodies so you'd be buying an instantly outdated machine) hopefully with a Fox36 Fit4 fork and a DPX2. Well scratch the DPX2 because its only on the dentist builds so you're stuck with the smaller DPS which is probably fine.
"XO1 Eagle Race" which is really a hodgepodge of XO1, X1, and GX, $5500 and Fox36 Grip and a throwaway wheelset
"XO1 Eagle Pro" which is all XO1, $6400 and Fox36 Fit4, and a decent wheelset
Its just painful. Especially when a Trance Advanced 2 is $4300 and comes with a Fox36 Fit4, DPX2 rear, Sram NX (a downgrade from XO1 for sure), but has a carbon wheelset to make up for it. $2100 less, better suspension, downgrade on drivetrain (1 shifter, 1 derailleur, 1 cassette lol).
The sucks on this.
I'm a HUGE fan of the Trance, but ride is super subjective and you have to really love what you ride.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Shops around me have Trances to demo. So I think I owe it to myself to do that before going full retard on a bike purchase.Apex wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:12 pmThe does suck on it. So go ride a Trance? I think Sourland Cycles has some demo bikes.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:04 pm
Dude, the spec and price are retarded. I'd want a Sram Eagle one (I like Eagle better than Shimano, and Shimano is going 12 speed on their new stuff just announced like last week, and will require special hub bodies so you'd be buying an instantly outdated machine) hopefully with a Fox36 Fit4 fork and a DPX2. Well scratch the DPX2 because its only on the dentist builds so you're stuck with the smaller DPS which is probably fine.
"XO1 Eagle Race" which is really a hodgepodge of XO1, X1, and GX, $5500 and Fox36 Grip and a throwaway wheelset
"XO1 Eagle Pro" which is all XO1, $6400 and Fox36 Fit4, and a decent wheelset
Its just painful. Especially when a Trance Advanced 2 is $4300 and comes with a Fox36 Fit4, DPX2 rear, Sram NX (a downgrade from XO1 for sure), but has a carbon wheelset to make up for it. $2100 less, better suspension, downgrade on drivetrain (1 shifter, 1 derailleur, 1 cassette lol).
The sucks on this.
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Oh, I thought you've ridden one.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Trance has always been the sweet spot with travel IMO.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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When I went through the saga back in the day and was getting screwed over buying the alloy version of my bike, the shop offered me the deal on the carbon Occam...
I hemmed and hawed over it for a week. It was $800 more than the alloy bike I'd ordered and paid for, and that just felt like insane money to spend given my financial situation at the time. It was a full $1400 off it's list price and ultimately I bit the bullet and don't regret it at all.
Then I took this stupid job and have no time to ride.
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Hard to pass up a deal like you got on the Occam. The saga just sweetened it in the end anyway.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:44 pmWhen I went through the saga back in the day and was getting screwed over buying the alloy version of my bike, the shop offered me the deal on the carbon Occam...
I hemmed and hawed over it for a week. It was $800 more than the alloy bike I'd ordered and paid for, and that just felt like insane money to spend given my financial situation at the time. It was a full $1400 off it's list price and ultimately I bit the bullet and don't regret it at all.
Then I took this stupid job and have no time to ride.
The problem is transport. I'm 99% sure I don't want to roof rack anymore. That leaves hitch as the only option.