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We pull in roughly same as you I think. I don't have retirement bennies at my new job. I've just been living the life of a poor for a long time, so I have a boatload saved.

Bah. I'm not spending $6 large on a god damn bike. A WR250R is $4k used and THAT, my :mahtroy: s, is the play to make.
You actually ride your bike though, would you ride a motorcycle? I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.
I don't know, really. I transitioned my bike stuff to mostly off road at this point to avoid cars. Motorcycle around here is all on-road. We use the term "road" loosely in south philly tho.

I keep thinking I'd get killed on a motorcycle. But a bicycle really isn't any different, and slower so it can't avoid as much.

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Think of all the shredding you could be doing.
Its been a few months and I'm still not used to this stay at home dog dad work arrangement. I feel like I'm supposed to be "working" i.e. able to quickly respond to emails, during work hours.
So keep your phone on you. Go ride a bit.

I’ve certainly fielded calls and emails for work on rides.
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Its been a few months and I'm still not used to this stay at home dog dad work arrangement. I feel like I'm supposed to be "working" i.e. able to quickly respond to emails, during work hours.
So keep your phone on you. Go ride a bit.

I’ve certainly fielded calls and emails for work on rides.
I did that the other day. Went out and brapped 30 something miles on the steel steed. Had a blast.

Thinking a Stigmata would actually be a worthy purchase. 6-10 lbs lighter than the steelie with better parts. I use it enough, I bought the Macho Man because it was cheap and a solid, easy to re-sell entry to the world of CX and gravel. And I fell in love with the damn thing. So it might be justified to get a lighter / faster more expensive version.

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You actually ride your bike though, would you ride a motorcycle? I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.
I don't know, really. I transitioned my bike stuff to mostly off road at this point to avoid cars. Motorcycle around here is all on-road. We use the term "road" loosely in south philly tho.

I keep thinking I'd get killed on a motorcycle. But a bicycle really isn't any different, and slower so it can't avoid as much.
:word:

I'm glad I bought the motorcycle but also glad I sold it.

Almost everything fun seems dangerous. I haven't even played hockey in awhile since my neck has been hurting and I don't want to make it worse. It's hurt almost every day for 3 years and will likely be that way for life. I'll probably do something equally shitty if I ever get to the MTB trails...

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I don't know, really. I transitioned my bike stuff to mostly off road at this point to avoid cars. Motorcycle around here is all on-road. We use the term "road" loosely in south philly tho.

I keep thinking I'd get killed on a motorcycle. But a bicycle really isn't any different, and slower so it can't avoid as much.
:word:

I'm glad I bought the motorcycle but also glad I sold it.

Almost everything fun seems dangerous. I haven't even played hockey in awhile since my neck has been hurting and I don't want to make it worse. It's hurt almost every day for 3 years and will likely be that way for life. I'll probably do something equally shitty if I ever get to the MTB trails...
I'd MTB with you. I like riding with people new to the sport. It brings me joy to see others enjoying the sport that I enjoy.

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:word:

I'm glad I bought the motorcycle but also glad I sold it.

Almost everything fun seems dangerous. I haven't even played hockey in awhile since my neck has been hurting and I don't want to make it worse. It's hurt almost every day for 3 years and will likely be that way for life. I'll probably do something equally shitty if I ever get to the MTB trails...
I'd MTB with you. I like riding with people new to the sport. It brings me joy to see others enjoying the sport that I enjoy.

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I'd MTB with you. I like riding with people new to the sport. It brings me joy to see others enjoying the sport that I enjoy.

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I love getting people on bikes. All about that stoke.
:dat: in those scenarios, and well really any scenario anymore, I literally do not give a shit if I'm going slow. Because everyone is out to have fun. One of the more fun rides I've done recently was take Lisa on her first MTB ride and watch her shred down crossbow trail in Belmont. That was so :fuckyeah: and she loved it until she threw out her back. Whoops. She still liked it though.

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I'm serious Troy. That's an invite. Same goes for anyone on here. You'd be welcome to stay at my house and cuddle my kitty and get licked to death by my vicious pit bull, rent a bike at a local shop, and we'd go shred the Wiss. And then stop at a brewery on the way back and get drunk. :sissyfight:

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Fuck man that's like every single ride I do anymore. The whole, been out way too long my butt is sore and I can't feel my toes, then end at a brewery and get nearly black out drunk before riding home. Get home at 3PM and I'm literally useless the entire rest of the day.

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Johnny_P wrote:I'm serious Troy. That's an invite. Same goes for anyone on here. You'd be welcome to stay at my house and cuddle my kitty and get licked to death by my vicious pit bull, rent a bike at a local shop, and we'd go shred the Wiss. And then stop at a brewery on the way back and get drunk. :sissyfight:
Sounds good, maybe in June when the glacier retreats.

I used to love riding trails on snowmobiles and have sorta been searching for that experience again (but in something more affordable/accessible) for the past 15 years. Low-intensity mountain/dirt/gravel biking is probably the closest I can get if I can find people to ride with.

I also think that one of the :fancy: new bikes with an electric motor could be even better. Still light and legal to ride wherever, but more speed and less exhausting.

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Johnny_P wrote:I'm serious Troy. That's an invite. Same goes for anyone on here. You'd be welcome to stay at my house and cuddle my kitty and get licked to death by my vicious pit bull, rent a bike at a local shop, and we'd go shred the Wiss. And then stop at a brewery on the way back and get drunk. :sissyfight:
Sounds good, maybe in June when the glacier retreats.

I used to love riding trails on snowmobiles and have sorta been searching for that experience again (but in something more affordable/accessible) for the past 15 years. Low-intensity mountain/dirt/gravel biking is probably the closest I can get if I can find people to ride with.

I also think that one of the :fancy: new bikes with an electric motor could be even better. Still light and legal to ride wherever, but more speed and less exhausting.
I don't hate e-bikes. I feel they needlessly destroy trails. But, to ride? They're pretty fun.

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Johnny_P wrote:I'm serious Troy. That's an invite. Same goes for anyone on here. You'd be welcome to stay at my house and cuddle my kitty and get licked to death by my vicious pit bull, rent a bike at a local shop, and we'd go shred the Wiss. And then stop at a brewery on the way back and get drunk. :sissyfight:
Sounds good, maybe in June when the glacier retreats.

I used to love riding trails on snowmobiles and have sorta been searching for that experience again (but in something more affordable/accessible) for the past 15 years. Low-intensity mountain/dirt/gravel biking is probably the closest I can get if I can find people to ride with.

I also think that one of the :fancy: new bikes with an electric motor could be even better. Still light and legal to ride wherever, but more speed and less exhausting.
Yeah fast, flowing trails are awesome. I really get no enjoyment out of super technical stuff, but there’s something for everyone. If you’re ever back in Charlotte, there’s some good stuff around here too. It’sa very accessible hobby unlike :stig:

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Sounds good, maybe in June when the glacier retreats.

I used to love riding trails on snowmobiles and have sorta been searching for that experience again (but in something more affordable/accessible) for the past 15 years. Low-intensity mountain/dirt/gravel biking is probably the closest I can get if I can find people to ride with.

I also think that one of the :fancy: new bikes with an electric motor could be even better. Still light and legal to ride wherever, but more speed and less exhausting.
I don't hate e-bikes. I feel they needlessly destroy trails. But, to ride? They're pretty fun.
My one problem with eBikes are people who are otherwise fit enough to actually ride, using them like electric dirtbikes and shredding up trail systems.

They should be for people who have physical disabilities/too old/etc to hit the trail.

It's a slippery slope that could end up with revoked access for mountain bikers to some trail systems.
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IMO hitch mount is super ideal. Doesn't cut MPGs, easy to remove when not needed, super easy to load heavy mountain bikes on (seriously, every MTB out there is 30 lbs anymore). If you have a place to store it, and aren't worried about getting rear-ended, go for it.

I'm about 90% convinced a rat faced hybrid Rav4 is what I should get. Carries bikes and dogs easily, nobody cares about it, good MPG and low running costs. I'm so upset with everything lately, man. A part of me sort of thinks I should go full retard on the STI and keep it, get a roof rack, get the fancy coilovers, get a tune, etc, and turn it into an awesome brap machine. A part of me thinks I should just give up on everything I like and accept a life of beige blandness because it's impossible to have anything nice.
I really think you could make the STi what you want it to be for not that much money.

Screw roof bars, especially since yours is a 2016 and doesn't have the built in mounts in the rain channel. Get one of these - https://torkliftcentral.com/2015-2017-s ... tch-invisi

Throw on some Fortune Autos (make sure to get the Swift springs in 6k - 7k front and rear), do an E-tune from Bren or someone similar to fix your throttle sensitivity complaints, and voila! Bike hauler, more tolerable ride, and a fix for the :fullretard: throttle response. Seems you still enjoy so much about it, and it'd be way less work and less of financial hit to fix the negatives with the STi than to make a Rav interesting to drive when you do get to :stig:.

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I don't hate e-bikes. I feel they needlessly destroy trails. But, to ride? They're pretty fun.
My one problem with eBikes are people who are otherwise fit enough to actually ride, using them like electric dirtbikes and shredding up trail systems.

They should be for people who have physical disabilities/too old/etc to hit the trail.

It's a slippery slope that could end up with revoked access for mountain bikers to some trail systems.
I've no experience with them, but wouldn't I still be slower than you guys even if I had a motor - and therefore do less damage to the trails than you? (especially since I'll likely only ever do a fraction of the total miles that y'all ride...)

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I'm ready to blow my brains out with bike stuff. I'm so overwhelmed with life that I'm literally incapable of doing things like checking out bikes, talking to salespeople about what's in stock and pricing, etc. Full on overload. Too much stuff out there on the market, and prices are so high and bikes are so darn hard to sell used that it's a losing proposition. You should be able to get a ripper of a bike for $3k brand new. The Pivot 5.5 was great, but $6k for an outdated drivetrain isn't going to fly. Especially when you consider I used my MTB about 10 times last year, total. 95% of my riding was on my Macho Man.
I feel you there. Even though I have a nice MTB I've still at times found myself watching reviews and checking out new bike specs, which gets dangerous.

I have few complaints about the Trance, but one thing I have noticed after riding it more is that at times it feels too short, especially after being on my old 2008 26er. When I'm going up a decent grade and need to get my weight in front of the crank, I end up too far over the bars and have nearly gone over them a couple times while climbing if I hit a root or rock or something. 99% user error I'm sure, but then you read about how seat tube angles have gotten steeper to put the rider in a better pedaling position to climb while seated, and that bikes have gotten longer for more stability and more room in the bike while climbing out of the saddle and suddenly I think "shit, that sounds like what I want." I swear my old 26er has another 1.5" between the seat post and the head tube, PLUS a longer stem, and it feels totally comfortable. I get that the 2017+ Trance was Giant's first take a "modern" geometry bike, but it still seems way behind.

But to your point, I paid $3,000 for a $5,200 bike and would now be lucky to get $2,000 for it. Considering how little I ride, it's probably cost me $100/ride or more, which is insane, and the :math: is even more :fullretard: if we're talking a new bike in the same price range.

But yeah, I think with the trails around here one of the newer short travel 120mm 29ers would be a better choice than a 140mm 27.5, but at this point I'm not doing jack shit.

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I'm ready to blow my brains out with bike stuff. I'm so overwhelmed with life that I'm literally incapable of doing things like checking out bikes, talking to salespeople about what's in stock and pricing, etc. Full on overload. Too much stuff out there on the market, and prices are so high and bikes are so darn hard to sell used that it's a losing proposition. You should be able to get a ripper of a bike for $3k brand new. The Pivot 5.5 was great, but $6k for an outdated drivetrain isn't going to fly. Especially when you consider I used my MTB about 10 times last year, total. 95% of my riding was on my Macho Man.
I feel you there. Even though I have a nice MTB I've still at times found myself watching reviews and checking out new bike specs, which gets dangerous.

I have few complaints about the Trance, but one thing I have noticed after riding it more is that at times it feels too short, especially after being on my old 2008 26er. When I'm going up a decent grade and need to get my weight in front of the crank, I end up too far over the bars and have nearly gone over them a couple times while climbing if I hit a root or rock or something. 99% user error I'm sure, but then you read about how seat tube angles have gotten steeper to put the rider in a better pedaling position to climb while seated, and that bikes have gotten longer for more stability and more room in the bike while climbing out of the saddle and suddenly I think "shit, that sounds like what I want." I swear my old 26er has another 1.5" between the seat post and the head tube, PLUS a longer stem, and it feels totally comfortable. I get that the 2017+ Trance was Giant's first take a "modern" geometry bike, but it still seems way behind.

But to your point, I paid $3,000 for a $5,200 bike and would now be lucky to get $2,000 for it. Considering how little I ride, it's probably cost me $100/ride or more, which is insane, and the :math: is even more :fullretard: if we're talking a new bike in the same price range.

But yeah, I think with the trails around here one of the newer short travel 120mm 29ers would be a better choice than a 140mm 27.5, but at this point I'm not doing jack shit.
At $100 a ride, that's "demo a brand new $8k bike every time from the LBS" territory.

I still think $3k should get you a complete trail ripper brand new. That's the price range I'd feel comfortable purchasing in. I don't ride mountain enough to justify anything more.

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IMO hitch mount is super ideal. Doesn't cut MPGs, easy to remove when not needed, super easy to load heavy mountain bikes on (seriously, every MTB out there is 30 lbs anymore). If you have a place to store it, and aren't worried about getting rear-ended, go for it.

I'm about 90% convinced a rat faced hybrid Rav4 is what I should get. Carries bikes and dogs easily, nobody cares about it, good MPG and low running costs. I'm so upset with everything lately, man. A part of me sort of thinks I should go full retard on the STI and keep it, get a roof rack, get the fancy coilovers, get a tune, etc, and turn it into an awesome brap machine. A part of me thinks I should just give up on everything I like and accept a life of beige blandness because it's impossible to have anything nice.
I really think you could make the STi what you want it to be for not that much money.

Screw roof bars, especially since yours is a 2016 and doesn't have the built in mounts in the rain channel. Get one of these - https://torkliftcentral.com/2015-2017-s ... tch-invisi

Throw on some Fortune Autos (make sure to get the Swift springs in 6k - 7k front and rear), do an E-tune from Bren or someone similar to fix your throttle sensitivity complaints, and voila! Bike hauler, more tolerable ride, and a fix for the :fullretard: throttle response. Seems you still enjoy so much about it, and it'd be way less work and less of financial hit to fix the negatives with the STi than to make a Rav interesting to drive when you do get to :stig:.
Early 2017, so still no roof bar mounts. That hitch is interesting. I guess I could get a 1up and just store it in the trunk next to the jumper cables. Maybe mount a D-hook and ratchet strap it down in the trunk so it doesn't clunk around.

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At $100 a ride, that's "demo a brand new $8k bike every time from the LBS" territory.

I still think $3k should get you a complete trail ripper brand new. That's the price range I'd feel comfortable purchasing in. I don't ride mountain enough to justify anything more.
No joke. No LBS here in town has demo fleets, but point taken.

I should have just bought a trail-oriented hardtail like a Honzo or a Nukeproof Scout. Would be enough to handle trail duties for me and still be a reasonable option for :derp: ing around the city.

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Early 2017, so still no roof bar mounts. That hitch is interesting. I guess I could get a 1up and just store it in the trunk next to the jumper cables. Maybe mount a D-hook and ratchet strap it down in the trunk so it doesn't clunk around.
I've seen a couple WRXs with those and it's super cool seeing the hitch mount going through the bumper. Nice that you can put the rear fog light cover back in and the whole setup totally disappears.

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I really think you could make the STi what you want it to be for not that much money.

Screw roof bars, especially since yours is a 2016 and doesn't have the built in mounts in the rain channel. Get one of these - https://torkliftcentral.com/2015-2017-s ... tch-invisi

Throw on some Fortune Autos (make sure to get the Swift springs in 6k - 7k front and rear), do an E-tune from Bren or someone similar to fix your throttle sensitivity complaints, and voila! Bike hauler, more tolerable ride, and a fix for the :fullretard: throttle response. Seems you still enjoy so much about it, and it'd be way less work and less of financial hit to fix the negatives with the STi than to make a Rav interesting to drive when you do get to :stig:.
Early 2017, so still no roof bar mounts. That hitch is interesting. I guess I could get a 1up and just store it in the trunk next to the jumper cables. Maybe mount a D-hook and ratchet strap it down in the trunk so it doesn't clunk around.
You should get Cavallos to mount the OEM rack mounts in the roof while they have it.
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Early 2017, so still no roof bar mounts. That hitch is interesting. I guess I could get a 1up and just store it in the trunk next to the jumper cables. Maybe mount a D-hook and ratchet strap it down in the trunk so it doesn't clunk around.
You should get Cavallos to mount the OEM rack mounts in the roof while they have it.
Not convinced I should keep it, honestly.

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You should get Cavallos to mount the OEM rack mounts in the roof while they have it.
Not convinced I should keep it, honestly.
Well, at least you're now able to drive it comfortably without bucking all over the shitty.
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I'm ready to blow my brains out with bike stuff. I'm so overwhelmed with life that I'm literally incapable of doing things like checking out bikes, talking to salespeople about what's in stock and pricing, etc. Full on overload. Too much stuff out there on the market, and prices are so high and bikes are so darn hard to sell used that it's a losing proposition. You should be able to get a ripper of a bike for $3k brand new. The Pivot 5.5 was great, but $6k for an outdated drivetrain isn't going to fly. Especially when you consider I used my MTB about 10 times last year, total. 95% of my riding was on my Macho Man.
I feel you there. Even though I have a nice MTB I've still at times found myself watching reviews and checking out new bike specs, which gets dangerous.

I have few complaints about the Trance, but one thing I have noticed after riding it more is that at times it feels too short, especially after being on my old 2008 26er. When I'm going up a decent grade and need to get my weight in front of the crank, I end up too far over the bars and have nearly gone over them a couple times while climbing if I hit a root or rock or something. 99% user error I'm sure, but then you read about how seat tube angles have gotten steeper to put the rider in a better pedaling position to climb while seated, and that bikes have gotten longer for more stability and more room in the bike while climbing out of the saddle and suddenly I think "shit, that sounds like what I want." I swear my old 26er has another 1.5" between the seat post and the head tube, PLUS a longer stem, and it feels totally comfortable. I get that the 2017+ Trance was Giant's first take a "modern" geometry bike, but it still seems way behind.

But to your point, I paid $3,000 for a $5,200 bike and would now be lucky to get $2,000 for it. Considering how little I ride, it's probably cost me $100/ride or more, which is insane, and the :math: is even more :fullretard: if we're talking a new bike in the same price range.

But yeah, I think with the trails around here one of the newer short travel 120mm 29ers would be a better choice than a 140mm 27.5, but at this point I'm not doing jack shit.
I wish I could be about cars like I am about my mountain bike. I ride every week and certainly notice that the Whorbea isn't the world's greatest for me on every ride, but I've never ridden much else that's good and just :aintcare: as I'm still having fun. In cars, I'm always :plac: Curious.

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