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AllTrac is :flaccid: IMO.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:00 pm Screw the Pontiac Alltrack, get the GSW S 4mo if you want AWD.
I don't want AWD, but I DON'T want the :jalepenis: 1.4
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D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:01 pm
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Don't disagree. Thing is, I think the S level of GTI, while the lowest, is the best because it's the only version with cloth plaid seats, which I :wub:
Halogen headlights doe, which blows.
I don't have the headlight boner of most here, but even my :mk6: halogens were pretty damn good, way better than BMW halogens.

Given your use case, GTI makes the most sense probably.

IMO Civic Si is a better driving/handling car, but :manuel: only.

Veloster N is neat and DCT is coming... would you be down with the styling? Seems like you prefer more conservative.

WRX is :neat: but a no-go with the automatic.

I know you said no used luxo but a Beemah like mine is like $20K in brand new condish and is kind of just a RWD GTI that looks better and has a better blue color.

Acura ILX might be worth a look, I think they have a DCT and the dynamics of a Civic Si.

:butwhy: does it need to be four door with no kids/no :doge: ?
I concur that the halogens in the GTI are pretty damn good. I have (had) no complaints with mine. But wifey's H LED's were eye opening.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:01 pm
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Don't disagree. Thing is, I think the S level of GTI, while the lowest, is the best because it's the only version with cloth plaid seats, which I :wub:
Halogen headlights doe, which blows.
I don't have the headlight boner of most here, but even my :mk6: halogens were pretty damn good, way better than BMW halogens.

Given your use case, GTI makes the most sense probably.

IMO Civic Si is a better driving/handling car, but :manuel: only.

Veloster N is neat and DCT is coming... would you be down with the styling? Seems like you prefer more conservative.

WRX is :neat: but a no-go with the automatic.

I know you said no used luxo but a Beemah like mine is like $20K in brand new condish and is kind of just a RWD GTI that looks better and has a better blue color.

Acura ILX might be worth a look, I think they have a DCT and the dynamics of a Civic Si.

:butwhy: does it need to be four door with no kids/no :doge: ?
And I agree the Lobster is :neat: , it's just not for me.

As for 4 doors, I do drive people around fairly regularly, and older folks especially, between my inlaws, my mom, etc.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:00 pm Screw the Pontiac Alltrack, get the GSW S 4mo if you want AWD.
I don't want AWD, but I DON'T want the :jalepenis: 1.4
Either way, skip the Aztrak version.
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:53 pm Are there major MPG/maintenance considerations ? If so a 340i will present an excellent value for not much extra.
Amazing examples can be had for 25k or so. IMO there is no better value on the used market than that... but it comes at a price of premium 23mpg and BMW rape fees for repairs.
:dat:

The "rape fees" aren't a thing if you can do some basic ass wrench turning. I have yet to ever visit a Beemah :dillerman: and have put on 16k non issue miles with like $100 in maintenance.
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:01 pm

I don't have the headlight boner of most here, but even my :mk6: halogens were pretty damn good, way better than BMW halogens.

Given your use case, GTI makes the most sense probably.

IMO Civic Si is a better driving/handling car, but :manuel: only.

Veloster N is neat and DCT is coming... would you be down with the styling? Seems like you prefer more conservative.

WRX is :neat: but a no-go with the automatic.

I know you said no used luxo but a Beemah like mine is like $20K in brand new condish and is kind of just a RWD GTI that looks better and has a better blue color.

Acura ILX might be worth a look, I think they have a DCT and the dynamics of a Civic Si.

:butwhy: does it need to be four door with no kids/no :doge: ?
And I agree the Lobster is :neat: , it's just not for me.

As for 4 doors, I do drive people around fairly regularly, and older folks especially, between my inlaws, my mom, etc.
:word:

GTI is probably it if you want a new car. IMO it is a hell of a lot better vehicle than an AllTrac (not hideous, quicker, cooler/better seats, LSD, etc).

But I do think a 335/340i would be rad, they are pretty darn reliable up to 120K I think, you only did 72k in a decade.

MB AMG GLA 45 seems cool? Kinda a CUV but really more like a :gorf: but cooler.
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I’d actually check out a Mini Cooper S if I were WAP and willing to look outside of VW umbrella. They really are quite a bit of fun to drive.

Can’t go wrong with a MK7.5 GTI.

Elantra GT turbo or whatever it is. Or Kia Forte has one now too. They have a dual clutch. Lobster turbo non N is same just a hatch instead of being a sedan.

Used Benzo GLA maybe the AMG one. That would be hella fun. They had a DCT.

The non CUV hatch is the hard part here. There aren’t a ton of models to pick from.
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:01 pm

I don't have the headlight boner of most here, but even my :mk6: halogens were pretty damn good, way better than BMW halogens.

Given your use case, GTI makes the most sense probably.

IMO Civic Si is a better driving/handling car, but :manuel: only.

Veloster N is neat and DCT is coming... would you be down with the styling? Seems like you prefer more conservative.

WRX is :neat: but a no-go with the automatic.

I know you said no used luxo but a Beemah like mine is like $20K in brand new condish and is kind of just a RWD GTI that looks better and has a better blue color.

Acura ILX might be worth a look, I think they have a DCT and the dynamics of a Civic Si.

:butwhy: does it need to be four door with no kids/no :doge: ?
And I agree the Lobster is :neat: , it's just not for me.

As for 4 doors, I do drive people around fairly regularly, and older folks especially, between my inlaws, my mom, etc.
Is a Kia Stinger too big? They’re a hatch and cool as f. Fast too.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm
wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm

And I agree the Lobster is :neat: , it's just not for me.

As for 4 doors, I do drive people around fairly regularly, and older folks especially, between my inlaws, my mom, etc.
:word:

GTI is probably it if you want a new car. IMO it is a hell of a lot better vehicle than an AllTrac (not hideous, quicker, cooler/better seats, LSD, etc).

But I do think a 335/340i would be rad, they are pretty darn reliable up to 120K I think, you only did 72k in a decade.

MB AMG GLA 45 seems cool? Kinda a CUV but really more like a :gorf: but cooler.
I've thought about a GLA. I like them, but they're rather spendy.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:51 pm rip. good car did its job and kept you safe.


buy a good used mk6 cash

live a little and get used 7.5R

or just get new/used 7 GTI for epic :dill:
After driving Gbergs I would personally opt for the R over the GTI. Just personal preference but it could really put the power down.
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:31 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm

:word:

GTI is probably it if you want a new car. IMO it is a hell of a lot better vehicle than an AllTrac (not hideous, quicker, cooler/better seats, LSD, etc).

But I do think a 335/340i would be rad, they are pretty darn reliable up to 120K I think, you only did 72k in a decade.

MB AMG GLA 45 seems cool? Kinda a CUV but really more like a :gorf: but cooler.
I've thought about a GLA. I like them, but they're rather spendy.
Yeah been a minute since I’ve looked into them. Stelvios are cheap. Both of those are in the CUV but really more of a hatch category.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:29 pm I’d actually check out a Mini Cooper S if I were WAP and willing to look outside of VW umbrella. They really are quite a bit of fun to drive.

Can’t go wrong with a MK7.5 GTI.

Elantra GT turbo or whatever it is. Or Kia Forte has one now too. They have a dual clutch. Lobster turbo non N is same just a hatch instead of being a sedan.

Used Benzo GLA maybe the AMG one. That would be hella fun. They had a DCT.

The non CUV hatch is the hard part here. There aren’t a ton of models to pick from.
I've tried to get excited about a Mini, but I've failed. I respect them, and recognize their attributes, but just not for me.
If Kia still sold the forte 5, I'd be interested, but they're just 4 door sedans now, iirc.
See my GLA comment above.
Agree with last comment. This ain't Europe, unfortunately. :(
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New or new-ish 4 door hatch options are pretty much Golf/GTI/GSW, Civic Sport, Elantra GT, and maybe the "big" Golf-sized MINI - Countryman or Clubman?
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:36 pm Actually, a Clubman wouldn’t be a bad suggestion for :wap:

Similar size as the GTI, punchy engine, 8-speed auto, FWD or AWD.

Worth a look. :iono:
Yes absolutely. I like the 4 door mini but the chubman with the barn doors is basically same size as a GTI. They drive great even with the automatics.
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:40 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:37 pm

Yes absolutely. I like the 4 door mini but the chubman with the barn doors is basically same size as a GTI. They drive great even with the automatics.
:dat:

They’re comfy, quick, different, and fun. And it’s easier to find LED headlights and the better stereo than in the VWs.

Could find a JCW for relatively inexpensive price, too.
That would be a cool dad car. Hm.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:31 pm
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And I agree the Lobster is :neat: , it's just not for me.

As for 4 doors, I do drive people around fairly regularly, and older folks especially, between my inlaws, my mom, etc.
Is a Kia Stinger too big? They’re a hatch and cool as f. Fast too.
I like Stingers. A lot. Even the I4 is cool. But they're big. 190" long. 2 feet longer than a GTI.
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:42 pm
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Is a Kia Stinger too big? They’re a hatch and cool as f. Fast too.
I like Stingers. A lot. Even the I4 is cool. But they're big. 190" long. 2 feet longer than a GTI.
Hm. Yeah. Could be worth poking around in one I guess but they’re undoubtedly larger than a GTI. Is the small car desire just personal preference?
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:36 pm
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I've thought about a GLA. I like them, but they're rather spendy.
Yeah been a minute since I’ve looked into them. Stelvios are cheap. Both of those are in the CUV but really more of a hatch category.
No Alfa's. They're super cool, but I don't hate myself that much.
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:47 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:40 pm

That would be a cool dad car. Hm.
Find one with roof rails and throw the bike up top.

I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a newer F-series MINI.
Tail lights always annoyed me on these. Wonder if there’s a workaround hack.
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:49 pm
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Yeah been a minute since I’ve looked into them. Stelvios are cheap. Both of those are in the CUV but really more of a hatch category.
No Alfa's. They're super cool, but I don't hate myself that much.
Word. Yeah man I’d R or GTI in this case 👍
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:37 pm New or new-ish 4 door hatch options are pretty much Golf/GTI/GSW, Civic Sport, Elantra GT, and maybe the "big" Golf-sized MINI - Countryman or Clubman?
Pretty much. And that's why I keep coming back to another GTI. It's really the best of that bunch.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:45 pm
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I like Stingers. A lot. Even the I4 is cool. But they're big. 190" long. 2 feet longer than a GTI.
Hm. Yeah. Could be worth poking around in one I guess but they’re undoubtedly larger than a GTI. Is the small car desire just personal preference?
100% personal preference. I just like smaller cars and our garage isn't the biggest.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:37 pm New or new-ish 4 door hatch options are pretty much Golf/GTI/GSW, Civic Sport, Elantra GT, and maybe the "big" Golf-sized MINI - Countryman or Clubman?
Pretty much. And that's why I keep coming back to another GTI. It's really the best of that bunch.
:word:

I'd try to test drive the Elantra GT for :science: and see what kind of pricing is available, but probably end up with a base DSG GTI out of those options.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:56 pm
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Pretty much. And that's why I keep coming back to another GTI. It's really the best of that bunch.
:word:

I'd try to test drive the Elantra GT for :science: and see what kind of pricing is available, but probably end up with a base DSG GTI out of those options.
:word:
I kinda want to do the same. Gotta find out how :dillerman: is handling test drives during the apocalypse first.
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