POWL: The demise of Manuel

[razr390]

This thread turned into a bunch of bullshit

dfd doom ‘n gloom

[Johnny_P]

Man, all of these recent thoughts come from myself. The wife actually encourages me to own fun things.

The -
The -

I need to slow my roll perhaps and just enjoy things until shit goes sideways and stop the

I'm just enjoying cheaper things. My custom guitar and electronic drums cost about the same as a set of good but provide waaaaay more entertainment, for example. It was still like 17 or 18 F this morning here anyway, there is no point in trying to have fun with cars in this hellhole.

I'd say I agree with this, but bikes cost more than drivable NA miatas so

[Johnny_P]

I had no idea, but apparently she thinks it's too low and hard to get in and out of, too "rough" (guessing ride and shit interior), and too fast because there's nowhere to use the speed.

She's not wrong on any account, in fact her beef is my beef with the car. I pointed out a Hellcat today and she said it was stupid too "why do you like all these dumb cars you can't fit in or drive?"

I reminded her that I fit in the Challenger fine but she thinks i should just have a Gladiator Rubicon and end discussion. She might not be wrong there tbh.

Dude. Chally Hellkitten would be AWESOME where you live. Detroit is all straight boulevards right? Bullet straight roads that you can hammer down are the only type that make sense in a hellcat!

Can you get them with heated steering wheels?

B5 blue! Plum Crazy! Go Mango! F8 Green! Faster than your vette while being more comfortable, android auto, heated steering wheel, rides better, etc...

I dunno man. This is an epic car for $65k.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I had no idea, but apparently she thinks it's too low and hard to get in and out of, too "rough" (guessing ride and shit interior), and too fast because there's nowhere to use the speed.

She's not wrong on any account, in fact her beef is my beef with the car. I pointed out a Hellcat today and she said it was stupid too "why do you like all these dumb cars you can't fit in or drive?"

I reminded her that I fit in the Challenger fine but she thinks i should just have a Gladiator Rubicon and end discussion. She might not be wrong there tbh.

Dude. Chally Hellkitten would be AWESOME where you live. Detroit is all straight boulevards right? Bullet straight roads that you can hammer down are the only type that make sense in a hellcat!

Can you get them with heated steering wheels?

B5 blue! Plum Crazy! Go Mango! F8 Green! Faster than your vette while being more comfortable, android auto, heated steering wheel, rides better, etc...

I dunno man. This is an epic car for $65k.

I want a plum crazy hellcat so badly...it's ridiculous. But...

A few things. It still comes with 20's, which will be an atrocious ride most of the time. Tire blow outs, bent rims, etc. The streets on my new commute are a bit better, but not much more. I'd also have a really hard time spending $65k on a car I didn't drive year round. And I don't really think a Hellcat is a good year-round vehicle in Michigan.

Then there's the aspect of "using the speed". I think it's the most frustrating part of the

The main road we live off (Woodward, as in the "Dream Cruise") has a 45 mph speed limit, and all along it are cities that use the speeders on Woodward as a method of boosting their coffers. Go much over 10 over, and you're done. Same with accelerating quickly from a light...they consider that "racing" regardless of if you are racing or not, and that's a hefty ticket. My new commute is going to be 80% along Woodward, so the opportunity for fun is minimal.

There's ONE on-ramp by our house onto 1-696 that I can blast down, but I usually hit 100 when I top 3rd, so if I'm unlucky, there's another ticket. I also drove down it yesterday and the freeze thaw has done a number on it, it's heaved all over the place so I'm not sure I get even down it anymore.

TBH, cruising down Woodward with the top and doors off a Gladiator sounds way more fun to me at this point.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I had no idea, but apparently she thinks it's too low and hard to get in and out of, too "rough" (guessing ride and shit interior), and too fast because there's nowhere to use the speed.

She's not wrong on any account, in fact her beef is my beef with the car. I pointed out a Hellcat today and she said it was stupid too "why do you like all these dumb cars you can't fit in or drive?"

I reminded her that I fit in the Challenger fine but she thinks i should just have a Gladiator Rubicon and end discussion. She might not be wrong there tbh.

Chris, don't ever say this again.

It's true

Where I live, in a rather urban suburban environment with a bunch of hippy fart sniffing liberals that hate burning gasoline, the chance for fun is minimal. The "Motor City" is barely a shadow of its former self anymore.

[troyguitar]

I'm just enjoying cheaper things. My custom guitar and electronic drums cost about the same as a set of good but provide waaaaay more entertainment, for example. It was still like 17 or 18 F this morning here anyway, there is no point in trying to have fun with cars in this hellhole.

I'd say I agree with this, but bikes cost more than drivable NA miatas so

The bike equivalent of a drivable NA miata is my old Schwinn that was $50 on crangslist 10 years ago and still works fine. You don't need a $5000 bike.

[goIftdibrad]

Chris, don't ever say this again.

It's true

Where I live, in a rather urban suburban environment with a bunch of hippy fart sniffing liberals that hate burning gasoline, the chance for fun is minimal. The "Motor City" is barely a shadow of its former self anymore.

Sell your car then. Leave the man card in the glovebox for the next owner.

[Johnny_P]

I'd say I agree with this, but bikes cost more than drivable NA miatas so

The bike equivalent of a drivable NA miata is my old Schwinn that was $50 on crangslist 10 years ago and still works fine. You don't need a $5000 bike.

Oh for sure, nobody needs a $5k bike.

[Johnny_P]

I'd say I agree with this, but bikes cost more than drivable NA miatas so

Yeah, no they don't - unless you like tetanus.

Decent driver NAs cost a good 5-8k now. That buys you a lot of bike.

Decent was nowhere in my statement bruh. No need for weekly waxed rust free miatas, just ones that run and can deliver fun.

[max225]

Chris, don't ever say this again.

Man, all of these recent thoughts come from myself. The wife actually encourages me to own fun things.

The -
The -

I need to slow my roll perhaps and just enjoy things until shit goes sideways and stop the

You’re a lucky man, and I mean that non sarcastically.

[Johnny_P]

Man, all of these recent thoughts come from myself. The wife actually encourages me to own fun things.

The -
The -

I need to slow my roll perhaps and just enjoy things until shit goes sideways and stop the

You’re a lucky man, and I mean that non sarcastically.

If your SO isn't supportive of your hobbies you have the wrong SO.

[Johnny_P]

If your SO isn't supportive of your hobbies you have the wrong SO.

Big reason why I married her. I let her do what she wants, she lets me do what I want.

That whole idea of changing who you are and not being allowed to do things because of the “ol’ ball and chain” is

Yep. Mine is supportive of anything I want to do.

[goIftdibrad]

Big reason why I married her. I let her do what she wants, she lets me do what I want.

That whole idea of changing who you are and not being allowed to do things because of the “ol’ ball and chain” is

Yep. Mine is supportive of anything I want to do.

[razr390]

Dude. Chally Hellkitten would be AWESOME where you live. Detroit is all straight boulevards right? Bullet straight roads that you can hammer down are the only type that make sense in a hellcat!

Can you get them with heated steering wheels?

B5 blue! Plum Crazy! Go Mango! F8 Green! Faster than your vette while being more comfortable, android auto, heated steering wheel, rides better, etc...

I dunno man. This is an epic car for $65k.

I want a plum crazy hellcat so badly...it's ridiculous. But...

A few things. It still comes with 20's, which will be an atrocious ride most of the time. Tire blow outs, bent rims, etc. The streets on my new commute are a bit better, but not much more. I'd also have a really hard time spending $65k on a car I didn't drive year round. And I don't really think a Hellcat is a good year-round vehicle in Michigan.

Then there's the aspect of "using the speed". I think it's the most frustrating part of the

The main road we live off (Woodward, as in the "Dream Cruise") has a 45 mph speed limit, and all along it are cities that use the speeders on Woodward as a method of boosting their coffers. Go much over 10 over, and you're done. Same with accelerating quickly from a light...they consider that "racing" regardless of if you are racing or not, and that's a hefty ticket. My new commute is going to be 80% along Woodward, so the opportunity for fun is minimal.

There's ONE on-ramp by our house onto 1-696 that I can blast down, but I usually hit 100 when I top 3rd, so if I'm unlucky, there's another ticket. I also drove down it yesterday and the freeze thaw has done a number on it, it's heaved all over the place so I'm not sure I get even down it anymore.

TBH, cruising down Woodward with the top and doors off a Gladiator sounds way more fun to me at this point.

Wide-body scat pack.



/bread

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I want a plum crazy hellcat so badly...it's ridiculous. But...

A few things. It still comes with 20's, which will be an atrocious ride most of the time. Tire blow outs, bent rims, etc. The streets on my new commute are a bit better, but not much more. I'd also have a really hard time spending $65k on a car I didn't drive year round. And I don't really think a Hellcat is a good year-round vehicle in Michigan.

Then there's the aspect of "using the speed". I think it's the most frustrating part of the

The main road we live off (Woodward, as in the "Dream Cruise") has a 45 mph speed limit, and all along it are cities that use the speeders on Woodward as a method of boosting their coffers. Go much over 10 over, and you're done. Same with accelerating quickly from a light...they consider that "racing" regardless of if you are racing or not, and that's a hefty ticket. My new commute is going to be 80% along Woodward, so the opportunity for fun is minimal.

There's ONE on-ramp by our house onto 1-696 that I can blast down, but I usually hit 100 when I top 3rd, so if I'm unlucky, there's another ticket. I also drove down it yesterday and the freeze thaw has done a number on it, it's heaved all over the place so I'm not sure I get even down it anymore.

TBH, cruising down Woodward with the top and doors off a Gladiator sounds way more fun to me at this point.

Wide-body scat pack.



/bread

On the radar, but the size of the wheels and overall cost will probably keep me away.

[max225]

You’re a lucky man, and I mean that non sarcastically.

If your SO isn't supportive of your hobbies you have the wrong SO.

100%

[max225]

I want a plum crazy hellcat so badly...it's ridiculous. But...

A few things. It still comes with 20's, which will be an atrocious ride most of the time. Tire blow outs, bent rims, etc. The streets on my new commute are a bit better, but not much more. I'd also have a really hard time spending $65k on a car I didn't drive year round. And I don't really think a Hellcat is a good year-round vehicle in Michigan.

Then there's the aspect of "using the speed". I think it's the most frustrating part of the

The main road we live off (Woodward, as in the "Dream Cruise") has a 45 mph speed limit, and all along it are cities that use the speeders on Woodward as a method of boosting their coffers. Go much over 10 over, and you're done. Same with accelerating quickly from a light...they consider that "racing" regardless of if you are racing or not, and that's a hefty ticket. My new commute is going to be 80% along Woodward, so the opportunity for fun is minimal.

There's ONE on-ramp by our house onto 1-696 that I can blast down, but I usually hit 100 when I top 3rd, so if I'm unlucky, there's another ticket. I also drove down it yesterday and the freeze thaw has done a number on it, it's heaved all over the place so I'm not sure I get even down it anymore.

TBH, cruising down Woodward with the top and doors off a Gladiator sounds way more fun to me at this point.

Wide-body scat pack.



/bread

109%

[Johnny_P]

I want a plum crazy hellcat so badly...it's ridiculous. But...

A few things. It still comes with 20's, which will be an atrocious ride most of the time. Tire blow outs, bent rims, etc. The streets on my new commute are a bit better, but not much more. I'd also have a really hard time spending $65k on a car I didn't drive year round. And I don't really think a Hellcat is a good year-round vehicle in Michigan.

Then there's the aspect of "using the speed". I think it's the most frustrating part of the

The main road we live off (Woodward, as in the "Dream Cruise") has a 45 mph speed limit, and all along it are cities that use the speeders on Woodward as a method of boosting their coffers. Go much over 10 over, and you're done. Same with accelerating quickly from a light...they consider that "racing" regardless of if you are racing or not, and that's a hefty ticket. My new commute is going to be 80% along Woodward, so the opportunity for fun is minimal.

There's ONE on-ramp by our house onto 1-696 that I can blast down, but I usually hit 100 when I top 3rd, so if I'm unlucky, there's another ticket. I also drove down it yesterday and the freeze thaw has done a number on it, it's heaved all over the place so I'm not sure I get even down it anymore.

TBH, cruising down Woodward with the top and doors off a Gladiator sounds way more fun to me at this point.

Wide-body scat pack.



/bread

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

[razr390]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

You’d probably get a bitchin’ deal on one. It seems the best compromise between completely useable power and comfortable GT/cruiser

[troyguitar]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

Meh, get base and drive it NFG.

[goIftdibrad]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

the demise of camdalf.

[Apex]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

the demise of camdalf.

[max225]

Widebody scat pack is pretty perfect honestly. And to bring it full circle, I'd want one with

Still not something I want to drive year round tho.

But you'd drive it a whole lot more than the plastic fantastic.

[Desertbreh]

Man, that Challenger interior is atrocious. It's really not much of an improvement over a 1970 Challenger. It's definitely a true muscle car in terms of the fact that you are paying for motor and styling, and that's it.