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Do you even invest?

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:02 pm
by CaleDeRoo
max225 wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:54 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:50 pm
Right I forgot about the 6k annual cap. I've got like 20k I need to do something with.
Personal recommendation is to stay out of the market and sit on cash until 2023. The correction hasn’t really happened
That's fair

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:23 am
by max225
Bought a 6 months treasury bond today... 3.85%. Fuck the market

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:24 am
by golftdibrad1
max225 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:23 am Bought a 6 months treasury bond today... 3.85%. Fuck the market
so you'll only be loosing 6%? :iono:

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:27 am
by max225
golftdibrad1 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:24 am
max225 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:23 am Bought a 6 months treasury bond today... 3.85%. Fuck the market
so you'll only be loosing 6%? :iono:
Better than 15%. Also inflation is done. Not vs LY but vs prior QTR. So YoY comps are irrelevant.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:27 pm
by D Griff
max225 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:27 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:24 am

so you'll only be loosing 6%? :iono:
Better than 15%. Also inflation is done. Not vs LY but vs prior QTR. So YoY comps are irrelevant.
:dat: prices are going down now.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:36 pm
by Tar
This might be one of those rare times where precious metals are back in vogue. They haven't moved for many many reasons leading up to this point, so I'm :popcorn: on the segment for now.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:39 pm
by D Griff
Isn’t dumping stock right now the classic sell low knee-jerk That you are never supposed to do though?

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:26 pm
by Tar
D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:39 pm Isn’t dumping stock right now the classic sell low knee-jerk That you are never supposed to do though?
So like, this is just my opinion man....

I have no stocks, but prices are at 5 yr lows so I'd be more inclined to buy then sell.

Still, the amount of abuse our monetary system has gone through due to covid spending is :mindblown: , and now Europe is cracking under the pressure that they put on themselves with the Russia embargoes and it might mean some serious Lehman type banking collapses minus the Obama/Bernanke style cash infusions (no way more .gov cash can be dumped nto the markets without currency valuations plummeting drastically. The only thing I'm happy to hold on to is my house, and even cash in the bank doesn't make sense to me anymore.

The added drama surrounding Russia (like NS1 NS2 blowing up) make for a pretty unpredictable future for anyone except the bloke that blew up those pipes. England almost had some financial meltdown today, I don't understand what happened there, but it goes to show you how fragile things got in the recent weeks.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:44 pm
by D Griff
Yeah I’d be more inclined to buy but I just do the retirement account thing, don’t really try to time the market.

Europe is rough indeed.. I’m tempted to buy another UK bike right now, the exchange rates are making them crazy cheap.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:51 pm
by Tar
D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:44 pm Yeah I’d be more inclined to buy but I just do the retirement account thing, don’t really try to time the market.

Europe is rough indeed.. I’m tempted to buy another UK bike right now, the exchange rates are making them crazy cheap.
USD is strong right now, one or the perks of being the world reserve currency and people selling stocks etc. Might as well take advantage of it. :iono:

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:33 am
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:39 pm Isn’t dumping stock right now the classic sell low knee-jerk That you are never supposed to do though?
Not according to Vasily, who is paid to predict such things. I froze our 401Ks, although later than I would have preferred.

I think we're in for a another year of shitastic at the bare minimum.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:40 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
I haven't touched my 401ks. Probably a bloodbath, but I mostly ignore them since I won't touch them for another 25 years....lots will happen in that time.

I have been tempted to avg down some of my holdings with stocks as cheap as they are right now. Just waiting to see where things settle, I suspect the market still has some falling to do.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:24 am
by max225
Nothing is “cheap” right now. Stay the f out of the market. Been warning you guys about this for months … until the war is done and the geopolitical landscape changes this is NOT a buying opportunity

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 am
by Tar
My natural gas bill came in at $353 for Aug to Sept.

$23 customer charge
$50 delivery charge
$77 Federal Carbon Charge
$238 gas supply charge
$8 cost adjustment
$395.39 plus tax

$544.38 rounded down to equal billing charge or something.

Good luck to the poors, we're not even hurting for gas supply, it's readily available on native land.

The shit show is just beginning.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:47 am
by SAWCE
$238 supply charge? Goddamn. On top of all the other bullshit. Wild

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:51 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
max225 wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:24 am Nothing is “cheap” right now. Stay the f out of the market. Been warning you guys about this for months … until the war is done and the geopolitical landscape changes this is NOT a buying opportunity
Absolutely right now. There's going to be a ton of volatility for a while, which is why I'm staying out.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:53 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 am My natural gas bill came in at $353 for Aug to Sept.

$23 customer charge
$50 delivery charge
$77 Federal Carbon Charge
$238 gas supply charge
$8 cost adjustment
$395.39 plus tax

$544.38 rounded down to equal billing charge or something.

Good luck to the poors, we're not even hurting for gas supply, it's readily available on native land.

The shit show is just beginning.
WTF...what in your house uses natural gas in the summer?

Our total monthly gas bills have been $10-$15/mo in the summer...the backup generator runs once a week to make sure it's ready to go when needed, that's all that uses gas.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:54 am
by max225
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 am My natural gas bill came in at $353 for Aug to Sept.

$23 customer charge
$50 delivery charge
$77 Federal Carbon Charge
$238 gas supply charge
$8 cost adjustment
$395.39 plus tax

$544.38 rounded down to equal billing charge or something.

Good luck to the poors, we're not even hurting for gas supply, it's readily available on native land.

The shit show is just beginning.
Is that for heating?

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:20 am
by Tar
Detroit wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:53 am
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 am My natural gas bill came in at $353 for Aug to Sept.

$23 customer charge
$50 delivery charge
$77 Federal Carbon Charge
$238 gas supply charge
$8 cost adjustment
$395.39 plus tax

$544.38 rounded down to equal billing charge or something.

Good luck to the poors, we're not even hurting for gas supply, it's readily available on native land.

The shit show is just beginning.
WTF...what in your house uses natural gas in the summer?

Our total monthly gas bills have been $10-$15/mo in the summer...the backup generator runs once a week to make sure it's ready to go when needed, that's all that uses gas.
It's all fucking taxes to save Canada from carbon.

Shower water and pool heater use natural gas, but the pool was off while we were on FL from the 9th to the 19th, and the house was empty.

I think this will end in some civil unrest, just a matter of time.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:20 am
by Tar
Dos

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:34 am
by D Griff
That is bananas. We have no gas and I've never seen an e3lectricity bill over $90 at this house. Gotta get into that poverty living, tiny house, no pool, etc. $200+ in fees... :disgust:

I agree that we're likely not at the bottom, but it also seems an odd time to sell stonks... kind of missed the boat on that IMO.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 am
by Tar
We could cheap out and turn off the gas but we'll still pay $200+/month for delivery

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:56 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 am We could cheap out and turn off the gas but we'll still pay $200+/month for delivery
Here, the delivery fee is variable based on usage. Is that not the case for you? Man, winter gonna be COLD for most of Canada.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:20 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:53 am
WTF...what in your house uses natural gas in the summer?

Our total monthly gas bills have been $10-$15/mo in the summer...the backup generator runs once a week to make sure it's ready to go when needed, that's all that uses gas.
It's all fucking taxes to save Canada from carbon.

Shower water and pool heater use natural gas, but the pool was off while we were on FL from the 9th to the 19th, and the house was empty.

I think this will end in some civil unrest, just a matter of time.
Pool heaters take a lot :doe: so that makes more sense to me.

This will not go well once it starts getting really cold :doe:

:popcorn:

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:19 pm
by Tar
Detroit wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 am
Tar wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:20 am

It's all fucking taxes to save Canada from carbon.

Shower water and pool heater use natural gas, but the pool was off while we were on FL from the 9th to the 19th, and the house was empty.

I think this will end in some civil unrest, just a matter of time.
Pool heaters take a lot :doe: so that makes more sense to me.

This will not go well once it starts getting really cold :doe:

:popcorn:
Pool is closed.

I had the pool for three years, with the fees and cost of gas we never went over $150. This is the new normal.