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Detroit wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:46 pm If the Chinese start selling here, it won't last long. The market is already saturated...so to compete the price will have to be bargain basement...

PLUS, I can't imagine the quality is there yet. Not to mention, I think there's quite a stigma with Chinese products like this.
They already sell Chery (chinese brand) in Turkey and ssassyong (korean) been selling in Turkey for 20 years now, and you barely see them on the road. They also look like pile of shit by just looking at them.
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This sounds like it could be neat:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... tos-specs/

275 hp with :manuel: and cloth seats, adaptive dampers, some fancy electronic diff, and perhaps no sunroof. 18" :ramz: instead of 20's like on the Hype R. I like the 3-door approach. Tiny ass rear window to make sure that you can't see anything behind you sucks, but otherwise looks :notbad:

Base car comes in orange too.

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Interesting philosophy on making the car FUN instead of FAST:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... lap-times/
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:30 pm This sounds like it could be neat:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... tos-specs/

275 hp with :manuel: and cloth seats, adaptive dampers, some fancy electronic diff, and perhaps no sunroof. 18" :ramz: instead of 20's like on the Hype R. I like the 3-door approach. Tiny ass rear window to make sure that you can't see anything behind you sucks, but otherwise looks :notbad:

Base car comes in orange too.

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Interesting philosophy on making the car FUN instead of FAST:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... lap-times/
:notbad:

I’m sure people will hate it, and thefore I’ll want to buy it.
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I don't understand this whole "Philisophy" BS... that's the whole point at ///m or ///n or whatever retarded letter they associate with it.
ZOMG we're so cool in Korea now... way different and better than back in the Vaterland.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:22 pm I don't understand this whole "Philisophy" BS... that's the whole point at ///m or ///n or whatever retarded letter they associate with it.
ZOMG we're so cool in Korea now... way different and better than back in the Vaterland.
:wat:
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:19 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:30 pm This sounds like it could be neat:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... tos-specs/

275 hp with :manuel: and cloth seats, adaptive dampers, some fancy electronic diff, and perhaps no sunroof. 18" :ramz: instead of 20's like on the Hype R. I like the 3-door approach. Tiny ass rear window to make sure that you can't see anything behind you sucks, but otherwise looks :notbad:

Base car comes in orange too.

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Interesting philosophy on making the car FUN instead of FAST:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/d ... lap-times/
:notbad:

I’m sure people will hate it, and thefore I’ll want to buy it.
gonna take it off of any sweet jumps?

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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:25 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:22 pm I don't understand this whole "Philisophy" BS... that's the whole point at ///m or ///n or whatever retarded letter they associate with it.
ZOMG we're so cool in Korea now... way different and better than back in the Vaterland.
:wat:
Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:25 pm

:wat:
Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:25 pm

:wat:
Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
Makes sense to me. :iono:
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:44 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm

Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
Makes sense to me. :iono:
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:19 pm

:notbad:

I’m sure people will hate it, and thefore I’ll want to buy it.
gonna take it off of any sweet jumps?

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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:52 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:44 pm

Makes sense to me. :iono:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:25 pm

:wat:
Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
So, like, what's your problem man?
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:12 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm

Read the article. The old ///M chief is now over the N division at Hyundai talking about how the "Philosophy" is totally different at Hyundai and is focusing on FUN rather than PERFORMANCE. :bs:
So, like, what's your problem man?
:iono:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:23 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:12 pm

So, like, what's your problem man?
:iono:
So why is the philosophy bs?
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:10 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:23 pm

:iono:
So why is the philosophy bs?
I dunno I read the BS... decided to BS about it? Added my usual :scoot:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:11 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:10 pm

So why is the philosophy bs?
I dunno I read the BS... decided to BS about it? Added my usual :scoot:
What is bs about it?
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4zilch wrote:
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:11 pm I dunno I read the BS... decided to BS about it? Added my usual :scoot:
What is bs about it?
There is no such thing as fun. If you're not first, you're last.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:15 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:11 pm
I dunno I read the BS... decided to BS about it? Added my usual :scoot:
What is bs about it?
"The fun of driving has been out there for many, many years. We discovered it a little bit late in the Hyundai Motor Group, but now we’re catching up. This is our first car, and our first car has to give a clear message: What is N? What do we stand for, what is important to us? There has to be a clear statement of who we are. This car should express that."
That... he is just trying to make a name for himself and somehow say that this whole "N" thing is brand new and how they never had performance models or that they focused on "fun" which is bs. They have been doing this for a bit just like all other manufacturers.

They had em for a long ass time, and they had plenty of iterations of the Genesis coupe+ 5.0 models for their sedans etc. They are not doing anything groundbreaking here.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:26 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:15 pm

What is bs about it?
"The fun of driving has been out there for many, many years. We discovered it a little bit late in the Hyundai Motor Group, but now we’re catching up. This is our first car, and our first car has to give a clear message: What is N? What do we stand for, what is important to us? There has to be a clear statement of who we are. This car should express that."
That... he is just trying to make a name for himself and somehow say that this whole "N" thing is brand new and how they never had performance models or that they focused on "fun" which is bs. They have been doing this for a bit just like all other manufacturers.

They had em for a long ass time, and they had plenty of iterations of the Genesis coupe+ 5.0 models for their sedans etc. They are not doing anything groundbreaking here.
At least they’re trying to do something? :iono: Time will tell whether it’s legitimate engineering philosophy or marketing :bs: Maybe it’s a little of both, but :whocares:

Were you on the development team for the Genesis? Can you tell us program goals?
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Dat blue is :notbad:

Putting it on the short list for FiST replacement.

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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:43 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:26 pm



That... he is just trying to make a name for himself and somehow say that this whole "N" thing is brand new and how they never had performance models or that they focused on "fun" which is bs. They have been doing this for a bit just like all other manufacturers.

They had em for a long ass time, and they had plenty of iterations of the Genesis coupe+ 5.0 models for their sedans etc. They are not doing anything groundbreaking here.
At least they’re trying to do something? :iono: Time will tell whether it’s legitimate engineering philosophy or marketing :bs: Maybe it’s a little of both, but :whocares:

Were you on the development team for the Genesis? Can you tell us program goals?
I am on the internet bro. Obviously, I was.
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Hyundai and Kia have made leaps and bounds.

I'd love to drive the Stinger, or a new Genesis.
Good for them, more fun things to choose from.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:56 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:43 pm

At least they’re trying to do something? :iono: Time will tell whether it’s legitimate engineering philosophy or marketing :bs: Maybe it’s a little of both, but :whocares:

Were you on the development team for the Genesis? Can you tell us program goals?
I am on the internet bro. Obviously, I was.
I realize that - it’s just your inscecant need to shit on all things automotive related.
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Melon wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm Hyundai and Kia have made leaps and bounds.

I'd love to drive the Stinger, or a new Genesis.
Good for them, more fun things to choose from.
Stinger looks good too.
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