Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

Brothers of brub and brap, this is your safe space.
User avatar
Davestr
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 3845
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:06 pm
Drives: 17 M2 14 M235

troyguitar wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:37 am The latest cheapo Kumho ballz seasons are pretty damn good. Not quite AS3 in the warm but ridiculously cheap and possibly better in the cold. Ecsta 4XII. Was $458 for the :poorvette: set and they're $271 for a 215 front :225: rear Poorsche setup, assuming I ever buy a car.
Thats a good price!
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

I liked my BFG Gforce Comp 2s. They were cheap and very grippy in the dry. Seemed to work fine in the wet too. Best tires I put on the GTI at least.
User avatar
Calvinball
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 11184
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 pm
Drives: Pumpkin, Hellcat edition

Johnny_P wrote:I liked my BFG Gforce Comp 2s. They were cheap and very grippy in the dry. Seemed to work fine in the wet too. Best tires I put on the GTI at least.
I had some bfg's many many years ago that were great for like 10k miles.


Sent from the Beer Depository
:therapist:
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45241
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

razr390 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:25 amFIRST!
:bravo:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45241
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

Calvinball wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:10 pm
Johnny_P wrote:I liked my BFG Gforce Comp 2s. They were cheap and very grippy in the dry. Seemed to work fine in the wet too. Best tires I put on the GTI at least.
I had some bfg's many many years ago that were great for like 10k miles.


Sent from the Beer Depository
What happened once they passed 10k miles?
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
razr390
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 19644
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:08 am
Drives: MK7.5 on 87

:doughnut: :narc: :doughnut:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45241
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45241
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

[user not found] wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:48 pm
wap wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:21 pm

What happened once they passed 10k miles?
Image
:wtf: :lolol:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

[user not found] wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:48 pm
wap wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:21 pm

What happened once they passed 10k miles?
Image
Why aren't those on a GM? Square wheels belong under square fenders.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10053
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Johnny_P wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:59 am
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:42 am ran into this on youtube, :disappoint: in 3....2....1.....
Doug's video reviews are fucking awful
Will watch in a minute
When I heard "Jimmy Eat World" I lost it :lol: he's probably more old school. But few things are pretty spot on, like the exhaust
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10053
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

[user not found] wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:48 pm
wap wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:21 pm

What happened once they passed 10k miles?
Image
I literally imagined those wheel setups on cars when I was a little kid :lol:
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
goIftdibrad
Chief Master Soft Brain
Chief Master Soft Brain
Posts: 16746
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:01 am
Drives: straight past the apex

i submit, Miata is always the answer.
brain go brrrrrr
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:40 am i submit, Miata is always the answer.
I want juan
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

Big Brain Bradley wrote:i submit, Miata is always the answer.
Miata-priced poorsche.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

@max225 I saw one of those orangey-red M3's on the road today. With silver wheels. Hot dammit did that look good :jimp: Should totally be your next car, brah.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:58 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote:i submit, Miata is always the answer.
Miata-priced poorsche.
I want juan of those too
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

Mehata.

Would Boxster.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:09 pm Mehata.

Would Boxster.
Have you driven both? I drove a Cayman S once... my reference point is probably ruined by that. The new Miatas look like they're quick enough because of how light they are, but that incredibly sonorous and fun midship flat 6 would be hard to turn down.
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:09 pm Mehata.

Would Boxster.
If you're actually going to trackdaybro then the M96 porsche stuff is not a good idea, sustained high lateral g loads == bad news for the oiling system much like regular LS2/LS3 cars. Avoid 986 and 996 except turbro/gt2/gt3 for trackdaybro unless you want to do supporting mods.
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

Johnny_P wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:14 pm
Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:09 pm Mehata.

Would Boxster.
Have you driven both? I drove a Cayman S once... my reference point is probably ruined by that. The new Miatas look like they're quick enough because of how light they are, but that incredibly sonorous and fun midship flat 6 would be hard to turn down.
I've driven Mehatas, only barely because I don't fit in them. They're ok, under powered (which I know is "the point" or whatever), shitty interior, basic amenities that usually function, etc.

I actually fit comfortably in Boxster and find them a bit more special to drive. I really prefer the mid-engine layout as well. If I were buying a $10k fun car, a Boxster would be at the top of the list.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10053
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Johnny_P wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:33 am I liked my BFG Gforce Comp 2s. They were cheap and very grippy in the dry. Seemed to work fine in the wet too. Best tires I put on the GTI at least.
I jumped off the Michelin cool aid. Especially for some reason, my as3's only lasted like 25k miles :wtf: Now I'm rocking General G-Max As3, cost just as half as the As3, more gripper but not significantly. Only problem is it might have softer sidewalls than michelins as I noticed when I corner a 25 mph at 50-60 mph, which michelins had no problem with.
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:16 pm
Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:09 pm Mehata.

Would Boxster.
If you're actually going to trackdaybro then the M96 porsche stuff is not a good idea, sustained high lateral g loads == bad news for the oiling system much like regular LS2/LS3 cars. Avoid 986 and 996 except turbro/gt2/gt3 for trackdaybro unless you want to do supporting mods.
Nobody here is going to TRACKDAYBRO as much as they think they are, let's be real.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:21 pm
troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:16 pm

If you're actually going to trackdaybro then the M96 porsche stuff is not a good idea, sustained high lateral g loads == bad news for the oiling system much like regular LS2/LS3 cars. Avoid 986 and 996 except turbro/gt2/gt3 for trackdaybro unless you want to do supporting mods.
Nobody here is going to TRACKDAYBRO as much as they think they are, let's be real.
I wouldn't risk tracking these cars for even a single lap, but that's just me. Maybe on crappy tires and on a small/flat track with no banked sweepers, like Waterford...
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

MexicanYarisTK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:20 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:33 am I liked my BFG Gforce Comp 2s. They were cheap and very grippy in the dry. Seemed to work fine in the wet too. Best tires I put on the GTI at least.
I jumped off the Michelin cool aid. Especially for some reason, my as3's only lasted like 25k miles :wtf: Now I'm rocking General G-Max As3, cost just as half as the As3, more gripper but not significantly. Only problem is it might have softer sidewalls than michelins as I noticed when I corner a 25 mph at 50-60 mph, which michelins had no problem with.
Those will last longer at least. The sidewalls are definitely soft though. A friend of mine had those on his Mazda 3S. Was a lot more comfortable than the Falken Azenis he had on there prior, but didn't handle nearly as well.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40520
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:21 pm
troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:16 pm

If you're actually going to trackdaybro then the M96 porsche stuff is not a good idea, sustained high lateral g loads == bad news for the oiling system much like regular LS2/LS3 cars. Avoid 986 and 996 except turbro/gt2/gt3 for trackdaybro unless you want to do supporting mods.
Nobody here is going to TRACKDAYBRO as much as they think they are, let's be real.
:dat:

I still want to TRACKDAYBRO the STI at NJMP doe. I think it would be fun for a few laps.
Locked