Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

Brothers of brub and brap, this is your safe space.
User avatar
goIftdibrad
Chief Master Soft Brain
Chief Master Soft Brain
Posts: 16746
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:01 am
Drives: straight past the apex

SixSpeeder wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:38 pm So I got banned off of the Fiat forum, wasn't even really trolling :ohslap:

http://fiattech.com/forum/fiattech-grou ... y?start=60

(FiveSpeedAbarth)
wow, you didnt even go full troy.

Screw that place
brain go brrrrrr
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

Some forums go full :triggered: if you dare to dis a vendor. The gold chainz forum is like this.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45291
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

Davestr wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:09 pm https://jalopnik.com/no-one-wants-to-bu ... 1796219373

Giulia sales wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down......or were never there..........
:(
I REALLY want Alfa to success in the US this time.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

wap wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:10 pm
Davestr wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:09 pm https://jalopnik.com/no-one-wants-to-bu ... 1796219373

Giulia sales wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down......or were never there..........
:(
I REALLY want Alfa to success in the US this time.
Sounds like they're pretty shitty from a reliability standpoint...doesn't look good...
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45291
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

SixSpeeder wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:38 pm So I got banned off of the Fiat forum, wasn't even really trolling :ohslap:

http://fiattech.com/forum/fiattech-grou ... y?start=60

(FiveSpeedAbarth)
:ohdang: :hue:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45291
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:13 pm
wap wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:10 pm

:(
I REALLY want Alfa to success in the US this time.
Sounds like they're pretty shitty from a reliability standpoint...doesn't look good...
I know. :(
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 29046
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:13 pm
wap wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:10 pm

:(
I REALLY want Alfa to success in the US this time.
Sounds like they're pretty shitty from a reliability standpoint...doesn't look good...
It's too bad, they are great looking cars, IMO.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10080
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

Detroit wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:13 pm
wap wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:10 pm

:(
I REALLY want Alfa to success in the US this time.
Sounds like they're pretty shitty from a reliability standpoint...doesn't look good...
If it makes you guys feel any better, they don't do that well in Europe either. Especially when I visited Germany a year ago and Turkey (people can afford nice cars there believe it or not). As for regular cars (meaning: non sporty and reasonable priced for an average joe), there's only 2 alfa's in the line-up at this point, excluding Giulia.
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
Davestr
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 3845
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:06 pm
Drives: 17 M2 14 M235

[user not found] wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 pm
troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:10 pm How is 25k miles not long enough for a set of tarz anyway? Maybe if you're driving a bus or something, but for an "enthusiast" you should be happy to get 20k.
Agreed.

I measure tires in seasons not miles.

If I get two summers out of a set of summers, that's pretty good.
Exactly!! Same for me!
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42765
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

[user not found] wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 pm
troyguitar wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:10 pm How is 25k miles not long enough for a set of tarz anyway? Maybe if you're driving a bus or something, but for an "enthusiast" you should be happy to get 20k.
Agreed.

I measure tires in seasons not miles.

If I get two summers out of a set of summers, that's pretty good.
Do you own a car long enough fo dat ?
User avatar
4zilch
First Sirloin
First Sirloin
Posts: 6241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:42 am
Drives: Ford Party ST
Location: God’s Country

In Company news: Cummins takes aim at Tesla.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/06/19/cumm ... trics-evs/
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
User avatar
4zilch
First Sirloin
First Sirloin
Posts: 6241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:42 am
Drives: Ford Party ST
Location: God’s Country

[user not found] wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:20 am
4zilch wrote:In Company news: Cummins takes aim at Tesla.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/06/19/cumm ... trics-evs/
Interesting. Very interesting.
What's even more interesting is that marketing had been pushing the well-to-wheel advantage of natural gas powered buses, but apparently we were still losing ground to the battery powered offerings.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
User avatar
4zilch
First Sirloin
First Sirloin
Posts: 6241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:42 am
Drives: Ford Party ST
Location: God’s Country

[user not found] wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:36 am
4zilch wrote:
What's even more interesting is that marketing had been pushing the well-to-wheel advantage of natural gas powered buses, but apparently we were still losing ground to the battery powered offerings.
Because #environmemt
:dat:

#environmentfeelings = :fax:
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

Hybrid makes sense kind of. Full EV? :notsure:
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
4zilch
First Sirloin
First Sirloin
Posts: 6241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:42 am
Drives: Ford Party ST
Location: God’s Country

Detroit wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:53 am Hybrid makes sense kind of. Full EV? :notsure:
EV makes sense in certain applications if you can get to the required range. In a municipal application, equipment returns back home each night and can be charged then.

A lot of compressed natural gas customers already do the same thing. They install their own slow fill pumps in using municipal natural gas lines. Hook up trucks to the pumps at the end of shift, and they're full the next morning.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

SixSpeeder wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:38 pm So I got banned off of the Fiat forum, wasn't even really trolling :ohslap:

http://fiattech.com/forum/fiattech-grou ... y?start=60

(FiveSpeedAbarth)
Funny. Your points were valid. All he had to do was say that yeah it's a development piece but I hope we get XXXXX out of it. Because that's what it is.

I remember the Focus forums, people would go HAM and get the equal length "shorty" headers. They'd lose HP, destroy their catalytic converters, and the headers would crack after about 2 years due to the stresses that were never accounted for because these parts are hardly ever actually designed for durability.

Fuck that. Especially on a part that requires bumper removal to install.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42765
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

Modding parts inferior to oem 9/10 times ?!

:mindblown:
User avatar
ChrisoftheNorth
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 47112
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am
Drives: 4R

max225 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:37 am Modding parts inferior to oem 9/10 times ?!

:mindblown:
OEM engineers are morans, doe. Haven't you heard?
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

IIRC hood paint would start to fade if you got the shorty headers too, because they did away with OEM heat shielding despite putting the runners physically closer to the hood because GOTTA SEE DEM HEADERS DOE. ON YOUR FOCUS. :rolleyes:
User avatar
Apex
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 29815
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:36 pm
Drives: Abominable
Location: NJ

Johnny_P wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:58 am IIRC hood paint would start to fade if you got the shorty headers too, because they did away with OEM heat shielding despite putting the runners physically closer to the hood because GOTTA SEE DEM HEADERS DOE. ON YOUR FOCUS. :rolleyes:
:lolgasm:
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Apex wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:59 am
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:58 am IIRC hood paint would start to fade if you got the shorty headers too, because they did away with OEM heat shielding despite putting the runners physically closer to the hood because GOTTA SEE DEM HEADERS DOE. ON YOUR FOCUS. :rolleyes:
:lolgasm:
That forum was full fucking retard.
User avatar
MexicanYarisTK
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 10080
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am
Drives: An Okinowa Cruiseship
Location: 6 miles north of Sleepy Joes House & 5 miles from Bosphorus Channel

[user not found] wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:32 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:01 pm

That forum was full fucking retard.
Focus Fanatics?

Can confirm...
:lolol: I remember they used to sell those magazines back then. My :plac: uncle had a first gen focus hatch (lot of suspension mods) to replace his totaled Peugeot 106 GTI, I believe it was a base model (black door handles and shiz, but atleast it has a crankable sunroof), at the time we recently moved to the US, every time he visited us, or when we visit Turkey, he always wanted a focus fanatic mag. :lol:
Nephew of a :plac: a few first gen immigrant on DFD, resident turk, and ex nazi egg lover now driving a middle class mom mobile.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

[user not found] wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:32 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:01 pm

That forum was full fucking retard.
Focus Fanatics?

Can confirm...
That was one of them. Focaljet was the other. Which was also retarded.
User avatar
goIftdibrad
Chief Master Soft Brain
Chief Master Soft Brain
Posts: 16746
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:01 am
Drives: straight past the apex

i can confirm, the focus boards are STUPPIIDDDDDDDD
brain go brrrrrr
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

[user not found] wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:41 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:53 pm i can confirm, the focus boards are STUPPIIDDDDDDDD
Image

Case in point. :disgust:
I see nothing has changed in 12 years.
Locked