max225 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:31 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:18 am
Probably not and that's why I doubt a C8 is really that much fun as a street car. Like I mentioned, on a track or true high performance driving scenario, an auto that actually listens to inputs from the paddles, holds gears, and shifts quickly would be just as fun. Street driving is boring so the
makes it entertaining. I think stuff like C8 Corvettes are just too fast and capable to get anywhere near the threshold of fun on normal roads most people have access to. Hell, even on canyon roads, it's
I could certainly see killing myself on something like Tail of the Dragon much more quickly in a car with that kind of power. I would love to give a C8 a go around VIR or something, but outside of that I'm not all that interested. It's an amazing car but pretty pointless for me.
I like driving and 95% of what I do is just putzing around where drama/involvement/engagement far trumps performance to make things entertaining.
Driving a sports car opens up a different can of worms at least around here. You have to be mindful of roads/potholes/steep inclines at all times. It keeps things quite “entertaining” I’d say. My buddy just popped his 5th tire in 2 years, that’s what driving like a
does here.
I don’t think having a manual is beneficial in a modern sports car at all if they can be equipped with a great auto, matter of fact I think it makes it more dangerous.
If you can’t handle a cars limit and decide “kill yourself” on public streets you’re way more likely to do it in a manual. Imo
I'm not arguing the safety of one versus the other, I don't really think either one could be proven on any kind of factual basis.
I'm just stating that FOR ME, a car that is literally unusable at more than 50% of it's capabilities in a safe manner (whether that be safe from personal injury or the law) is that fun. To me, approaching the limits, being involved mechanically, and improving skills are the entertaining parts of driving, so a manual plays into that as does the type of car where a manual makes sense (let's call it sub 400 HP).
'Fun' is a totally subjective thing for each individual and that's why this thread (and topic in general) can and will be debated endlessly with no real agreeance. I will be the first to admit that in 9/10 modern cars, the manual is objectively worse in every way and yet you won't find me driving an auto until I have to, it's just something I enjoy.
Mechanical watches like Valerie stated, music on vinyl, paper books versus e-readers - there are countless analogous dumb old things people enjoy because they're cool and tactile while they are objectively far worse.
Don't you own a Rolex? I'm assuming all of them are mechanical (admittedly I don't know much about watches), so it's objectively worse at keeping time than a Citizen, but almost everyone would rather have it because it's fun and cool to them.