DFD

Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:30 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:05 am
Yea, it's hard to say what the guy wants. My old man is driving the Corvette up to show it to him, and asked it he wanted a ride in it. He said "I'd rather die than pass on that, I never thought I'd see it on the road again". When asked about the ZL1 and possibly sending it down to my dad's for him to simply "put it back together", not "sell it", the guy was actually open to the thought. Apparently, the car has most of the interior in it, and all ZL1 parts like the chambered exhaust are there. The short block is apparently assembled, and the heads, intake, and all accy components are in boxes. He also has a 1969 M21 transmission, though it's not numbers matching to the car.

My old man needs the focus. He got the Corvette running in under a month and he said he's really enjoyed the planning and work of getting it going and wants another project. He may buy something, but if he can help his buddy get the ZL1 back together with the parts he has, that would be his priority. Considering the story and their history, I'm encouraging him to do what you suggested...assemble the fucker and drive it like it's meant to be driven. The dude needs the money, but won't part with anything, it's wild. But at least if it's assembled, it might be worth a tad more so if he passes my old man could help his widow sell it for decent money she needs.

Selfishly, I hope it goes through so I can wrench on it with my old man. I'd be coming down to Detroit more frequently for that, I really miss wrenching. We changed the water pump on the Vette yesterday (the bearing sounded HORRIBLE) and it was nice to spin some wrenches and bullshit for a bit. Putting together a legendary 69 Camaro ZL1 would be quite a neat thing IMO.

Would the ZL1s have come with an M21 or M22? Not that it matters. If the trans works, bolt it in.

Hopefully, you and your dad get the chance to put it back together. It seems like your dad's friend enjoys seeing his prized possessions running again.

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:05 am

Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:23 pm

I probably should have completed my thought. If he is trying to restore it to retain its value, then it's going to be a painstaking process. If he restores the car to how he wants it and for driving around, then he should go for it. Cars are meant to be driven.

I'm in the camp of making the car personal and unique. I don't have time to worry about what someone else thinks my car is worth. It isn't for sale and it's the only one out there. In the instance of the ZL1, because it has that history, I think your dad's friend would be happy to see it running and driving. Hell, if you were closer, I'd offer to help.

Yea, it's hard to say what the guy wants. My old man is driving the Corvette up to show it to him, and asked it he wanted a ride in it. He said "I'd rather die than pass on that, I never thought I'd see it on the road again". When asked about the ZL1 and possibly sending it down to my dad's for him to simply "put it back together", not "sell it", the guy was actually open to the thought. Apparently, the car has most of the interior in it, and all ZL1 parts like the chambered exhaust are there. The short block is apparently assembled, and the heads, intake, and all accy components are in boxes. He also has a 1969 M21 transmission, though it's not numbers matching to the car.

My old man needs the focus. He got the Corvette running in under a month and he said he's really enjoyed the planning and work of getting it going and wants another project. He may buy something, but if he can help his buddy get the ZL1 back together with the parts he has, that would be his priority. Considering the story and their history, I'm encouraging him to do what you suggested...assemble the fucker and drive it like it's meant to be driven. The dude needs the money, but won't part with anything, it's wild. But at least if it's assembled, it might be worth a tad more so if he passes my old man could help his widow sell it for decent money she needs.

Selfishly, I hope it goes through so I can wrench on it with my old man. I'd be coming down to Detroit more frequently for that, I really miss wrenching. We changed the water pump on the Vette yesterday (the bearing sounded HORRIBLE) and it was nice to spin some wrenches and bullshit for a bit. Putting together a legendary 69 Camaro ZL1 would be quite a neat thing IMO.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:05 am
Yea, it's hard to say what the guy wants. My old man is driving the Corvette up to show it to him, and asked it he wanted a ride in it. He said "I'd rather die than pass on that, I never thought I'd see it on the road again". When asked about the ZL1 and possibly sending it down to my dad's for him to simply "put it back together", not "sell it", the guy was actually open to the thought. Apparently, the car has most of the interior in it, and all ZL1 parts like the chambered exhaust are there. The short block is apparently assembled, and the heads, intake, and all accy components are in boxes. He also has a 1969 M21 transmission, though it's not numbers matching to the car.

My old man needs the focus. He got the Corvette running in under a month and he said he's really enjoyed the planning and work of getting it going and wants another project. He may buy something, but if he can help his buddy get the ZL1 back together with the parts he has, that would be his priority. Considering the story and their history, I'm encouraging him to do what you suggested...assemble the fucker and drive it like it's meant to be driven. The dude needs the money, but won't part with anything, it's wild. But at least if it's assembled, it might be worth a tad more so if he passes my old man could help his widow sell it for decent money she needs.

Selfishly, I hope it goes through so I can wrench on it with my old man. I'd be coming down to Detroit more frequently for that, I really miss wrenching. We changed the water pump on the Vette yesterday (the bearing sounded HORRIBLE) and it was nice to spin some wrenches and bullshit for a bit. Putting together a legendary 69 Camaro ZL1 would be quite a neat thing IMO.

Wow. That was supposed to be loud AF

wap wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:53 pm ^ BAD ASS

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:10 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Wow. That was supposed to be loud AF

Old man claims it's the only car that has even given him chills listening to it idle. Supposedly the entire thing is really quite the experience, and I don't doubt it. That engine is nuts. and the car looks so unassuming. Just wild:

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:10 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Wow. That was supposed to be loud AF

Old man claims it's the only car that has even given him chills listening to it idle. Supposedly the entire thing is really quite the experience, and I don't doubt it. That engine is nuts. and the car looks so unassuming. Just wild:

SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:07 am I love everything except the wheels :flamesuit:

SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:07 am I love everything except the wheels :flamesuit:

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:21 pm A ZL1 SS/RS would be cool, but I'm pretty sure that was not possible

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:19 pm

SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:07 am I love everything except the wheels :flamesuit:

It's a total base car for drag racing. Dog dish hubcaps yo! Chris does the car even have a heater?

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:42 pm My dad had L88 heads on his C3 for a while. Not the same thing but these old cars with big power are a fucking experience.

Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:23 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:42 pm My dad had L88 heads on his C3 for a while. Not the same thing but these old cars with big power are a fucking experience.

I don't get big power in a C3 after driving it for a bit. The thing is SKETCHY feeling overall (it was engineered in the 60's anyway) and I feel like a ton more power would make it borderline shitty. My C5 was too fast, I learned my lesson on that. The C3 can go WOT and bang shift all the way to third without breaking the law, but it still feels fast enough to be exciting. It's an incredibly approachable sports car stock. I'm honestly not sure I get the hate for them. Yea, the numbers suck, yea the interior sucks (no worse than any other Murican 70's car), but it looks cool and will put a smile on your face driving it. What more could you want? I'd almost go as far as saying late C3's might be the best classic performance bang for the buck these days. MINT super low mile ones are under $20k no problem. It does suck that ones are so rare because that's a big part of what makes it so fun. Doesn't seem to impact the price, just searching for a needle in a haystack.

My only beef with the thing is how quiet it is...you can barely hear the engine. Even at WOT, you hear the secondaries more than the exhaust. I could see swapping to a true dual exhaust setup just for added brubs. Maybe if I get it one day I'll play with it a tad. Probably not Just drive it ZFG.

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:39 pm I don’t see how a huge power 60s Camaro is any less sketchy than a huge power C3 both are awesome and stupid.

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:51 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:39 pm I don’t see how a huge power 60s Camaro is any less sketchy than a huge power C3 both are awesome and stupid.

The sensation from the seating position and the view out is quite different. It makes a Camaro feel mundane. I've only driven a DZ Z28 though to compare.

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:02 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:51 pm

The sensation from the seating position and the view out is quite different. It makes a Camaro feel mundane. I've only driven a DZ Z28 though to compare.

The only pre 1990 cars I’ve driven are the aforementioned C3, 1968 Citroen DS, and an MGB; I don’t have much to go on. The idea of huge power in any of them sounds scary though. I’d most likely take it in the Citroen, that thing was soooo advanced in braking/handing/chassis compared to the Corvette.

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:39 pm I don’t see how a huge power 60s Camaro is any less sketchy than a huge power C3 both are awesome and stupid.

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:51 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:39 pm I don’t see how a huge power 60s Camaro is any less sketchy than a huge power C3 both are awesome and stupid.

The sensation from the seating position and the view out is quite different. It makes a Camaro feel mundane. I've only driven a DZ Z28 though to compare.

D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:02 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:51 pm

The sensation from the seating position and the view out is quite different. It makes a Camaro feel mundane. I've only driven a DZ Z28 though to compare.

The only pre 1990 cars I’ve driven are the aforementioned C3, 1968 Citroen DS, and an MGB; I don’t have much to go on. The idea of huge power in any of them sounds scary though. I’d most likely take it in the Citroen, that thing was soooo advanced in braking/handing/chassis compared to the Corvette.