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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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FIRST :fuckyeah:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:47 pmFIRST :fuckyeah:
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:01 pm Damn, couldn't even get a tré in.
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:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
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I like cars.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
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C'mon DDY Doug pump those stonks back up
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:02 pm


C'mon DDY Doug pump those stonks back up
:wub: that thing, as I've stated before. Really hope it's legit and successful. It's past time for someone to out-Tessie Tesla.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
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I want a Toyota GR86.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:15 pm I want a Toyota GR86.
:dat:
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:15 pm I want a Toyota GR86.
:dat:
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:15 pm I want a Toyota GR86.
:dat:

GR86 for all of DFD.
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GR86 is the new GTI?

I’m hearing possibly January now as we might have found a dealership in the Boston region willing to allocation swap.

CAT/NYR’s decision not to bring in manual trans premium trims is stupid.
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coogles wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:54 am
D Griff wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:15 pm I want a Toyota GR86.
:dat:

GR86 for all of DFD.
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:23 am GR86 is the new GTI?

I’m hearing possibly January now as we might have found a dealership in the Boston region willing to allocation swap.

CAT/NYR’s decision not to bring in manual trans premium trims is stupid.
I wonder if they were only allowed to pick one transmission for premium trims for launch to keep the plant moving well? It seems Toyota batch builds a number of models, I imagine that makes the plant far more efficient.

Just sucks for the customer.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Dat GR Corolla :doe: That's where my :excited: really goes.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:58 am Dat GR Corolla :doe: That's where my :excited: really goes.
Did they show it yet?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:22 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:58 am Dat GR Corolla :doe: That's where my :excited: really goes.
Did they show it yet?
No, but I'm :excited: to see it. A rally inspired :manuel: 260hp AWD hatch would be an absolute riot where I live year round.

I've watched videos of the GR Yaris, that 3 banger is :neat: AF. I'd like a slightly bigger car anyway, so the GR Corolla could be my ideal 2nd vehicle.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:24 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:22 am

Did they show it yet?
No, but I'm :excited: to see it. A rally inspired :manuel: 260hp AWD hatch would be an absolute riot where I live year round.

I've watched videos of the GR Yaris, that 3 banger is :neat: AF. I'd like a slightly bigger car anyway, so the GR Corolla could be my ideal 2nd vehicle.
It would be legit incredible where you live. Do they still do ice driving events on lakes over there? They quit in NY about 10 years ago, but that would be so much fun.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:24 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:22 am

Did they show it yet?
No, but I'm :excited: to see it. A rally inspired :manuel: 260hp AWD hatch would be an absolute riot where I live year round.

I've watched videos of the GR Yaris, that 3 banger is :neat: AF. I'd like a slightly bigger car anyway, so the GR Corolla could be my ideal 2nd vehicle.
That has piqued my interest, as well. Especially since Subaru decided to make the new WRX look like a plastic-cladded butthole and VW decided capacitive buttons are the future.
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:31 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:24 am
No, but I'm :excited: to see it. A rally inspired :manuel: 260hp AWD hatch would be an absolute riot where I live year round.

I've watched videos of the GR Yaris, that 3 banger is :neat: AF. I'd like a slightly bigger car anyway, so the GR Corolla could be my ideal 2nd vehicle.
That has piqued my interest, as well. Especially since Subaru decided to make the new WRX look like a plastic-cladded butthole and VW decided capacitive buttons are the future.
:dat:

The new WRX and GTI/GoRf can die in a fire. Which is too bad considering it sounds like both are big improvements in the actual driving department.
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The only bit I don’t like about the WRX is the bookshelf rear bumper. Aside from that I think it looks pretty dece.

I’d never buy the MK8 due to the button fiasco. No way in hell would I want to live with that shit.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 am The only bit I don’t like about the WRX is the bookshelf rear bumper. Aside from that I think it looks pretty dece.

I’d never buy the MK8 due to the button fiasco. No way in hell would I want to live with that shit.
WRX isn't much better with the huge tablet from the Outback, doe.
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coogles wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:23 am
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 am The only bit I don’t like about the WRX is the bookshelf rear bumper. Aside from that I think it looks pretty dece.

I’d never buy the MK8 due to the button fiasco. No way in hell would I want to live with that shit.
WRX isn't much better with the huge tablet from the Outback, doe.
Not wrong but at least it’s all backlit so it’s moderately usable.

I bet they fix the bumper after 2 years with a refresh.
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coogles wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:23 am
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 am The only bit I don’t like about the WRX is the bookshelf rear bumper. Aside from that I think it looks pretty dece.

I’d never buy the MK8 due to the button fiasco. No way in hell would I want to live with that shit.
WRX isn't much better with the huge tablet from the Outback, doe.
Yea, it's weird that OEMs don't learn from other's mistakes.

Moving everything to the center screen only works if you're Tesla or some other EV startup. For the rest of the world, it's been pretty well established that no physical buttons suck, and capacitive touch "buttons" are even worse. GM learned that 10 years ago now.

Subaru needs to make a lot of progress with the UI on that center screen :notsure: if they will or not. Sucks because the "old" layout was perfectly fine and usable. Updating the infotainment a bit would have been all that was really "required".

But, it's a screen size arms race across the industry for some reason. :disgust:
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