Well said, IMO. Sadly I don't think Alan is coming back anytime soon. Shame as he is a good friend of mine and also I feel delivers quality content with the builds - from the C5 to the E30 to the M3 and all things between.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 1:49 pmI'm happy to pitch in. I'm not really sure that the appropriate response to watching the divide in society is to perpetuate that divide. This place helps me stay on top of things that I would otherwise be ignorant of due to hanging out with a bunch of all the time, people are smart on here and while losing Zach sucks it pretty hard, the guy was a content king and a nice fella to boot, I think just folding seems kind of weaksauce.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:30 pm Followed up with them - they did indeed remove their presence, evidently due to the political shit on here
I think they also edited Brad's settings to semi-ban him, all of this unbeknownst to me...
I am sort of what to do here, we have like 10 members. The crowd funding from 2020 is long gone and I haven't really had time to look at it that much. Are people interested in me keeping it going and willing to kick a few bucks my way to keep the doors open here? I am kind of discouraged by these recent events.
We could also start a Discord server for free and keep in touch that way.
I'm sad because I have really valued this friendship and community over the past 10+ years ( ). That said, it seems to be rather toxic for some individuals who can't check politics at the door or various other things. It seems many of us have different views but can get along just fine, others can't play nice.
I'm kind of sick of the divide in our society and watching this place fall apart just sort of rubs salt in the wound.
I'm not about to pull the plug or anything, but just given the fact that there are errors and whatnot constantly, I'm spending a couple hunnit a year, I feel some stupid responsibility for the place, etc. it's just not feeling great to me. [user not found] largely handled software updates and shit and to be honest I have minimal time or inclination to learn about that side of things and I don't think anyone else here seems to either.
I DO THINK, that some of the entertainment on this forum came from the of conflict, but the whole rule of "don't be a dick" has been critically ignored and led to division and decay. To that end, the use of this forum as some kind of cradle of free speech should have its limits, like when it rubs up agains the Dick Rule.
Brad should have gotten tossed when Zach offered up that both of them needed to STFU and Brad replied that nope, only Z NEEDED TO STFU. And that whole aftermath thing with calls to hang Fauci, gimme a fucking break like 30 straight posts with like one chime in by Mario who probably DOES have some gripes against .gov overreach.
Troy FREQUENTLY violated the Dick Rule was was always given some kind of special dispensation, probably because he had redeeming qualities and probably because people liked the But he should have been tossed for expressing desire that the VID kill off Max's family, like Max should have gotten tossed for telling TROY to off himself.
I don't think we need to tolerate any of this stuff. If we could get Alan back here and would offer up that Dan and Alan should be the new ban police, and when you threaten what's left of forum cohesiveness because what you have to say is just so TERRIBLY important...........you get shown to the door. Dan and Alan, have, over 10 years, IMHO shown themselves to be reasonable, empathetic, and intelligent, WITHOUT FAIL and WITHOUT EXCEPTION. Most of the rest of us can't say that.
But, like, that's just my opinion man.
I will probably create the Discord Server for DFD and invite people while simultaneously keeping this going. We can see if people are open to shooting the shit on that platform as well. I agree with Max that taking 'ownershit' out of it would be nice. I really have no interest in owning this, I just want to partake in what I find to be enjoyable conversation about topics I enjoy (mainly cars but I've learned a lot here from many of the members about all sorts of things - cycling, finance, travel, food, real estate, Pinshit/house shit, etc.). At the time I 'took over' it seemed like the only way forward as I have an offline relationship with Zack and Paul and also had fairly good standing with both sides of the politics fence.