Thanks dude. She beat it once, let's see what she's got in her this time around.
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I got Michelle a espresso maker for Christmas. Need to find a cool looking grinder for her now.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:55 pmBasically that. An aero press or a pour over setup will make the best coffee. Or just get a reliable consistent drip coffee maker. My black and decker one is poverty but consistent and I can make a half decent cup with it.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 pm An "all in one machine" won't do anything well and will break in a year.
If you want latte and cappuccino... none of these do it all machines will make anything worth putting into your mouth. IMO. You’d need a good espresso machine.
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A scale is preferable as well. And you’ll need a tamper if it didn’t include one. The manual grinder I have is a Hario. It works well. Overnighted it from Japan.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:06 pmI got Michelle a espresso maker for Christmas. Need to find a cool looking grinder for her now.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:55 pm
Basically that. An aero press or a pour over setup will make the best coffee. Or just get a reliable consistent drip coffee maker. My black and decker one is poverty but consistent and I can make a half decent cup with it.
If you want latte and cappuccino... none of these do it all machines will make anything worth putting into your mouth. IMO. You’d need a good espresso machine.
If you have a nice coffee shop around you they may have small grinders for sale. Many shops around here do.
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thanks dude. Wonder if any of the shops sell espresso grounds.. or is it better to buy whole beans and grind them yourself? I imagine they stay more fresh that way?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:11 pmA scale is preferable as well. And you’ll need a tamper if it didn’t include one. The manual grinder I have is a Hario. It works well. Overnighted it from Japan.
If you have a nice coffee shop around you they may have small grinders for sale. Many shops around here do.
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Whole bean orSAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:13 pmthanks dude. Wonder if any of the shops sell espresso grounds.. or is it better to buy whole beans and grind them yourself? I imagine they stay more fresh that way?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:11 pm
A scale is preferable as well. And you’ll need a tamper if it didn’t include one. The manual grinder I have is a Hario. It works well. Overnighted it from Japan.
If you have a nice coffee shop around you they may have small grinders for sale. Many shops around here do.
I use a poverty electric grinder
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Grind your own for maximum flavor and hipster points.SAWCE wrote:thanks dude. Wonder if any of the shops sell espresso grounds.. or is it better to buy whole beans and grind them yourself? I imagine they stay more fresh that way?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:11 pm A scale is preferable as well. And you’ll need a tamper if it didn’t include one. The manual grinder I have is a Hario. It works well. Overnighted it from Japan.
If you have a nice coffee shop around you they may have small grinders for sale. Many shops around here do.
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I'd be fine with an electric grinder. I don't really drink coffee, although maybe I will once we have this. She's all about aesthetics though, so it'll have to look cool and she'll probably like how manual ones look better than electric ones.
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Yeah I have an aeropress and this thing:
https://www.amazon.com/KRUPS-Electric-G ... ce+grinder
Plus good beans == coffee every day for pricing. Been using both pretty much daily for a few years now.
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Sweet. Thanks man.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:21 pmYeah I have an aeropress and this thing:
https://www.amazon.com/KRUPS-Electric-G ... ce+grinder
Plus good beans == coffee every day for pricing. Been using both pretty much daily for a few years now.
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Aeropress gives you fewer grinds in the bottom of your cup and is easier/faster to clean, but only makes one cup at a time.[user not found] wrote:Is there an advantage of an aeropress over a French Press or is it just a different method of getting to the same destination?troyguitar wrote: Yeah I have an aeropress and this thing:
https://www.amazon.com/KRUPS-Electric-G ... ce+grinder
Plus good beans == coffee every day for pricing. Been using both pretty much daily for a few years now.
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[user not found] wrote:Ahhh, got it.troyguitar wrote:Aeropress gives you fewer grinds in the bottom of your cup and is easier/faster to clean, but only makes one cup at a time.
Since I usually drink office "adequate" coffee during the week, then slam an entire press in an hour by myself, I guess for me the press still makes sense.
I make mine really strong, closer to an espresso than regular coffee, so a single aeropress cup is the best I can get short of buying a espresso machine.
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I only have about 6-7 oz of liquid and 15g of coffee, then switch to water.
Well, duh. She dates you.
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Buy whole bean. It’ll taste a lot better. Espresso is like a science project though. You’re going to make a lot of awful shots before you make a good one. Go into it thinking that. Write down what works and what didn’t. Change things like duration of pull and amount (weight) of grinds per shot and such. Even grind size makes a huge difference if you grind it yourself. Make shots and taste and then dump and re try. Drinking an assload of espresso is a good way to get heart failure lol.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:13 pmthanks dude. Wonder if any of the shops sell espresso grounds.. or is it better to buy whole beans and grind them yourself? I imagine they stay more fresh that way?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:11 pm
A scale is preferable as well. And you’ll need a tamper if it didn’t include one. The manual grinder I have is a Hario. It works well. Overnighted it from Japan.
If you have a nice coffee shop around you they may have small grinders for sale. Many shops around here do.
Baratza electrics are really good and durable and consistent but expensive.
But. Any shop will grind for you if you want. That way you can go a bit less fullretard on buying stuff at once if she never uses it.
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I have a Jura thing in the Bang Bus and it makes pretty good espresso. It'sJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:19 pmBuy whole bean. It’ll taste a lot better. Espresso is like a science project though. You’re going to make a lot of awful shots before you make a good one. Go into it thinking that. Write down what works and what didn’t. Change things like duration of pull and amount (weight) of grinds per shot and such. Even grind size makes a huge difference if you grind it yourself. Make shots and taste and then dump and re try. Drinking an assload of espresso is a good way to get heart failure lol.
Baratza electrics are really good and durable and consistent but expensive.
But. Any shop will grind for you if you want. That way you can go a bit less fullretard on buying stuff at once if she never uses it.
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Also sawce since this is a lot to take in. Wherever you get beans from ask what they recommend as a starting point for grind size, weight, and shot pull duration. They will likely be willing to talk if you explain you’re doing it at home with your lady friend.
Or if it’s a local roaster just call them up.
Or if it’s a local roaster just call them up.
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D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:24 pmI have a Jura thing in the Bang Bus and it makes pretty good espresso. It'sJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:19 pm
Buy whole bean. It’ll taste a lot better. Espresso is like a science project though. You’re going to make a lot of awful shots before you make a good one. Go into it thinking that. Write down what works and what didn’t. Change things like duration of pull and amount (weight) of grinds per shot and such. Even grind size makes a huge difference if you grind it yourself. Make shots and taste and then dump and re try. Drinking an assload of espresso is a good way to get heart failure lol.
Baratza electrics are really good and durable and consistent but expensive.
But. Any shop will grind for you if you want. That way you can go a bit less fullretard on buying stuff at once if she never uses it.
GF’s espresso machine for her shop was $7k. Used. And needed $1500 reconditioning.
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Yeah this is why I started with the cheapest possible grinder and aeropress. Unlike every other "hobby" I've ever had, though, I've been really happy with the results using entry level crap and have had no desire to "upgrade" for years now. The only thing I'd like is an automatic grinder at some point so that the grinds would turn out more consistent. Good espresso machines cost way too much, so I'm happy enough with the aeropress for life.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:19 pmBuy whole bean. It’ll taste a lot better. Espresso is like a science project though. You’re going to make a lot of awful shots before you make a good one. Go into it thinking that. Write down what works and what didn’t. Change things like duration of pull and amount (weight) of grinds per shot and such. Even grind size makes a huge difference if you grind it yourself. Make shots and taste and then dump and re try. Drinking an assload of espresso is a good way to get heart failure lol.
Baratza electrics are really good and durable and consistent but expensive.
But. Any shop will grind for you if you want. That way you can go a bit less fullretard on buying stuff at once if she never uses it.
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A better grinder should help. I can ask Lisa what is good anymore in the home grinder category if you want. But aeropress is good since it lets you control the whole brew.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:27 pmYeah this is why I started with the cheapest possible grinder and aeropress. Unlike every other "hobby" I've ever had, though, I've been really happy with the results using entry level crap and have had no desire to "upgrade" for years now. The only thing I'd like is an automatic grinder at some point so that the grinds would turn out more consistent. Good espresso machines cost way too much, so I'm happy enough with the aeropress for life.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:19 pm
Buy whole bean. It’ll taste a lot better. Espresso is like a science project though. You’re going to make a lot of awful shots before you make a good one. Go into it thinking that. Write down what works and what didn’t. Change things like duration of pull and amount (weight) of grinds per shot and such. Even grind size makes a huge difference if you grind it yourself. Make shots and taste and then dump and re try. Drinking an assload of espresso is a good way to get heart failure lol.
Baratza electrics are really good and durable and consistent but expensive.
But. Any shop will grind for you if you want. That way you can go a bit less fullretard on buying stuff at once if she never uses it.