Women's Rights... to their own bodies, income, etc.
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I'm basing it on statements from this thread.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:19 pm Dunno you guys are reading, max seems entirely reasonable in this thread...
Religious fucks have been doing their best to ruin the world for millennia. Christians are bad, muslims are worse.
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Still not even close to the numbers of Russian peasants that Stalin killed...
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Dead Russians beat the Nazis.wap wrote:Still not even close to the numbers of Russian peasants that Stalin killed...
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That shit has nothing to do with this thread. There are many reasons why me and my family left and legally immigrated into this country.
That statement and the subsequent racism and name calling was just two biggots trolling me on this forum.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:44 pmDead Russians beat the Nazis.wap wrote:
Still not even close to the numbers of Russian peasants that Stalin killed...
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Neither did bringing up Japanese war dead.
I do agree with you on the tragedy of our penal system, but that also is irrelevant to this thread.
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All I did was draw a conclusion based on your own words.
That doesn't make me a bigot, it makes me observant.
For someone who speaks multiple languages, you still need to work on English definitions.
I even gave you an out man, I don't think you're a bad dude, like I said earlier, you just have some fucked up views.
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Russia throwing soldiers at the Germans with no regard for casualties was pretty huge. Murica ain't got the stomach for that sort of thing.wap wrote:
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Really now? Once again, you have not given one god damn example as to what I said? I have no RESPECT for a religion that requires women to get covered up and be treated worse than men.Melon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:24 pmAll I did was draw a conclusion based on your own words.
That doesn't make me a bigot, it makes me observant.
For someone who speaks multiple languages, you still need to work on English definitions.
I even gave you an out man, I don't think you're a bad dude, like I said earlier, you just have some fucked up views.
What is so fucked up about that? That has plenty to do with this thread and the issue of women's rights period.
I don't fucking get what conclusions you made or whatever because right now they make absolutely no sense. [user not found] chimed in with his usual holier than thou bullshit also and proceeded to call me names insult my GF's ethnic group and hide behind a fucking keyboard.
Also thanks for insulting my english once again, you fucking troll.
Shit is getting old.
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I'm not taking anymore of your troll bait, and won't respond to the bullshit you post.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:37 pmFwiw I didn't insult your GF ethnic group, I insulted you. Just to be clear.maxtdi wrote:
Really now? Once again, you have not given one god damn example as to what I said? I have no RESPECT for a religion that requires women to get covered up and be treated worse than men.
What is so fucked up about that? That has plenty to do with this thread and the issue of women's rights period.
I don't fucking get what conclusions you made or whatever because right now they make absolutely no sense. [user not found] chimed in with his usual holier than thou bullshit also and proceeded to call me names insult my GF's ethnic group and hide behind a fucking keyboard.
Also thanks for insulting my english once again, you fucking troll.
Shit is getting old.
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Oh. Right. Of course. Stalin loved his peasant cannon fodder. This is well known. I was referring to the millions of peasants that were killed in various pogroms in Russia and the Soviet Union.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:27 pmRussia throwing soldiers at the Germans with no regard for casualties was pretty huge. Murica ain't got the stomach for that sort of thing.wap wrote:
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They could have rolled over like poland, france, etc. and ended up with fewer dead most likely, but I see your point.maxtdi wrote:Russia did it for survival it was kill or be killed.
I'm still what's so bad about Max calling a spade a spade with regard to the shitty beliefs imposed by religious people on children and women...
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Russia lost more ppl than almost anyone in the war, as well as incredible destruction almost unlike anything ever since. My entire family was affected by the war one way or another. Whether it was evacuations, being bombed etc. And my grandfather had 3 nazi sniper bullets in him at the time of his passing (well after the war thankfully).troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:41 pmThey could have rolled over like poland, france, etc. and ended up with fewer dead most likely, but I see your point.maxtdi wrote:Russia did it for survival it was kill or be killed.
I'm still what's so bad about Max calling a spade a spade with regard to the shitty beliefs imposed by religious people on children and women...
I truly hope a conflict as such won't repeat in our lifetime, choices were made that are unthinkable in todays world. I am not sure we can even judge some of them considering we live in peace and prosperity in comparison.
Much dang.
I'm gonna have to side on max and troys side in this shit. Not for their opinions, but how y'all are reacting to them and attacking them.
Tolerance, a thing you can show Muslims but not Max.
I'm gonna have to side on max and troys side in this shit. Not for their opinions, but how y'all are reacting to them and attacking them.
Tolerance, a thing you can show Muslims but not Max.
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maxtdi wrote:Russia lost more ppl than almost anyone in the war, as well as incredible destruction almost unlike anything ever since. My entire family was affected by the war one way or another. Whether it was evacuations, being bombed etc. And my grandfather had 3 nazi sniper bullets in him at the time of his passing (well after the war thankfully).troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:41 pm They could have rolled over like poland, france, etc. and ended up with fewer dead most likely, but I see your point.
I'm still what's so bad about Max calling a spade a spade with regard to the shitty beliefs imposed by religious people on children and women...
I truly hope a conflict as such won't repeat in our lifetime, choices were made that are unthinkable in todays world. I am not sure we can even judge some of them considering we live in peace and prosperity in comparison.
That's why I said that Russia could likely have come out ahead by surrendering quickly, but hindsight and all that...
I like to think/hope that we're at least smart enough to not repeat that shit again (though WW2 was a total repeat of WW1 just 20 years later... which amazes me beyond comprehension).
The recent resurgence of nationalism across the globe is scary to me for that reason.
Xenophobic. That's the word that was out of grasp.Melon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:09 pmOkmaxtdi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:03 pm BTW lets get one thing straight... You guys ganged up on an "immigrant" and are calling out the country's atrocities where I was born because that is all fine and dandy.
Yet at the same time you guys are just a bunch of pathetic hypocrites that get when there is an opinion that doesn't line up with your own and decide to take cheap shots in an attempt to "win" some kind of argument.
My whole point in this thread was to point out the hypocracy of religion when it comes to reproductive rights, where "we the ppl" want all the womenz rights and at the same time allow and celebrate a religion that basically punishes women as 2nd rate citizens.
What the actual fuck does my heritage have to do with the argument at hand? I'd really like to know.
Including Benders asinine insult in this thread just perpetuates this entire mentality of you guys being completely unable to accept an opinion other than your own, while preaching about acceptance. In total fashion. Just pathetic.
[user not found] makes this thread about women's rights.
You post in here with your Racist? (It's a religious group, not a race, so for lack of a better word) racist views on Muslims. Which are also expressed in your other thread.
I brought up your Russian heritage to make the point that yes, some Russian people did bad things, but not all Russians are bad.
Same point I've brought up about Muslims, yes some Muslim people have done bad things, but not all Muslims are bad.
I accept that your opinion exists, and this is the US, you're free to express it, but I'm also free to retort.
There, I think that answers all your questions.
Also, Trux rule.
I can go head to head. You take the aintcare road. You bash max for focusing on a single group. The end game, go statistically. You want fax and other bullshit but both sides of you fail to come to a apples to apples.
You only draw bullshit parallels.
Muslims. Russians.
Americans. Japanese.
Break it down to a tangible comparison based in events truth and statistics. Have a discussion. Give credit were its due and debunk bullshit fear with hard fact. Not the DFD feels train.
And stop personally attacking one and not their opinion.
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Acknowledging facts ain't xenophobic.
Most religions, practiced strictly, are incompatible with a free society.
Most religions, practiced strictly, are incompatible with a free society.
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So what would you call Max's position that a large group of people, this country, should outlaw and declare inferior another large group of people, muslims, because their beliefs are different?troyguitar wrote:maxtdi wrote: Russia lost more ppl than almost anyone in the war, as well as incredible destruction almost unlike anything ever since. My entire family was affected by the war one way or another. Whether it was evacuations, being bombed etc. And my grandfather had 3 nazi sniper bullets in him at the time of his passing (well after the war thankfully).
I truly hope a conflict as such won't repeat in our lifetime, choices were made that are unthinkable in todays world. I am not sure we can even judge some of them considering we live in peace and prosperity in comparison.
That's why I said that Russia could likely have come out ahead by surrendering quickly, but hindsight and all that...
I like to think/hope that we're at least smart enough to not repeat that shit again (though WW2 was a total repeat of WW1 just 20 years later... which amazes me beyond comprehension).
The recent resurgence of nationalism across the globe is scary to me for that reason.
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1 fact point awarded to Troy.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:02 pm Acknowledging facts ain't xenophobic.
Most religions, practiced strictly, are incompatible with a free society.
Next. Separation of church and state
Here is your fact
You have to pick and choose "just the good parts" of any religion. If you believe and follow sharia law, you simply can not separate church from state.
That's the Muslim line. Once side is tolerant. The other side is batshit.
You cant ignore saudis gross human rights violations under the guise of xenophobia, or worse, incorrect pull of the race card.