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coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:55 pm

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:52 pm

The CT5 got a wider screen for 2025 as part of the update. The CT4 remains the same. It's a poor seller and will probably be killed off, sadly.

Way too much screen, but at least the ct5 has some physical hvac controls.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:59 pm Very. Super intuitive and you can drag the most used things to your liking and order. There are also short cuts for commonly used stuff like garage opener

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:15 pm I don't really understand the whole "screen is too big argument." Once you have made the jump to a digital screen, I don't care how big it is. I think the Ipad look is cheapo, but once we've gone digital, let it rip.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:17 pm I actually think it’s too small in the VISTIQ because it tapers down towards the edges.

Gm is prob doing what bmw did same screen across all cars … and in a 2 series it’s big but in a 7 it’s small … kind of like here

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:17 pm

It's all in how well its integrated. A flat gloss black thing with a few small screens looks cheap as fuck. One continuous screen with varying information/infotainment.

The new Lincoln Nautilus Blackwood does the panoramic screen really well.

coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:35 pm

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:17 pm

It's all in how well its integrated. A flat gloss black thing with a few small screens looks cheap as fuck. One continuous screen with varying information/infotainment.

The new Lincoln Nautilus Blackwood does the panoramic screen really well.

Sorry but that's fucking horrific.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:45 pm

MrH42 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:53 pm

I think 20 hours is fine for a 200 kWh battery. You're not doing 400 mile trips every day and require an entire recharge overnight. That would be a wild use case.

I was curious so I asked CoPilot about the breakdown. 50-60% of homes have 200 amp main panels. Only 20-30% are on 100 amp panels. You can get the Ford charger for $600-$700 on eBay. It's not nearly as expensive to get a 20 kW setup as you think.

I was just quoting hypotheticals because it’s a fair comparison vs doing random math on what it takes to charge 30% due to all the other variables.

My buddy is averaging 1.3 miles per kWh in his Hummer, I did 1.9 on the Silverado. That’s roughly 13 and 19miles per hour charged… unless you go big. They are too inefficient to have a sub 10kwh charger. Again my opinion. I know someone people that permanently trickle charge out of a regular outlet and claim it’s “fine”.

My commute is 110 miles … in a Chevy I’d need 55kw… so yes it would happen overnight but I now have two evs… no way around either a second charger or permanent charging or both.

But my point was mainly around the big batteries an inefficient evs. They are better served by a separate 100 amp circuit and yes they are becoming more common now that the cars are.

D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:42 pm

coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:35 pm

Sorry but that's fucking horrific.

I'll get on your team here, this is not for me.

coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:35 pm

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:17 pm

It's all in how well its integrated. A flat gloss black thing with a few small screens looks cheap as fuck. One continuous screen with varying information/infotainment.

The new Lincoln Nautilus Blackwood does the panoramic screen really well.

Sorry but that's fucking horrific.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:25 pm The ford screens look like absolute ass and have so much wasted space. Like who needs 20” of weather on the dash

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:27 pm I saw ford demonstrate how to use the screens and it was sad. You have to use the small center screen and choose 1 of 4 things and put them into the giant 70" wrap around screen and your options are like...
Weather 10"
Clock 20"
speedometer 20"
map 20"

so that's it... its nothing but wasted space... and the UI is horrendous.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:37 pm

coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:17 pm Here's one I can get behind. 2026 Palisade

MrH42 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:37 pm Call me crazy, but I love the Lucid Gravity screen situation. I like the Air also.

More cars need to play with the idea of putting the gauges above the steering wheel.

MrH42 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:37 pm Call me crazy, but I love the Lucid Gravity screen situation. I like the Air also.

More cars need to play with the idea of putting the gauges above the steering wheel.

coogles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:17 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:42 pm

I'll get on your team here, this is not for me.

Thanks. I realize I'm about this.

Here's one I can get behind. 2026 Palisade