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troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:49 pm I'm probably but the cobbles around here feel brutal to me at 70+ psi. Dropping to 60 is the only way that the 25s feel tolerable.

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:49 pm I'm probably but the cobbles around here feel brutal to me at 70+ psi. Dropping to 60 is the only way that the 25s feel tolerable.

coogles wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:31 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:23 pm

3,927 for the year so far in total miles biked, I am surprised by how much I am still putting on the Raleigh just around. I was riding to the office for a bit, but only two days/week for a month before that was shut down again.

You'll have more time eventually.

How are you liking it?

Honestly? I wish I'd have bought the hybrid. My old 26" MTB is handling the neighborhood duties and it's just incredibly slow, and I'd get a lot more use out of something like the Trek FX I almost bought than the Emonda. Getting on the Emonda for 30 minutes to do a quick loop around the 'burbs and then plop back in front of the computer is a pretty experience on top of that. I'd just as soon hop on the Peloton with some music, some motivation, and without having to constantly watch for cars. I looked into offing it to TPC already but they've stopped taking bikes. The bike overall is great, though. It's comfortable, and tubeless 28s at 80psi really help kill the road buzz.

If anybody wants it, hit me up. I can have it professionally boxed and will ship.

Johnny_P wrote:I played bikes today. Just some dirt stuff with a friend at dad pace. Felt good to get out for a bit. The All City is a champ. Most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

A friend and I are thinking of starting up a weekly Tuesday night gravel ride. Not sure. But we'd like to. There's only one gravel ride in Philly now and it apparently kind of sucks. But 30 ish miles and ending at a brewery are a possibility...

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:05 pm

Johnny_P wrote:I played bikes today. Just some dirt stuff with a friend at dad pace. Felt good to get out for a bit. The All City is a champ. Most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

A friend and I are thinking of starting up a weekly Tuesday night gravel ride. Not sure. But we'd like to. There's only one gravel ride in Philly now and it apparently kind of sucks. But 30 ish miles and ending at a brewery are a possibility...

Start at a brewery. Gotta fuel your ride.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:59 pm What size is it? 56?

coogles wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:16 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:59 pm What size is it? 56?

56, yep. Probably too small for you unfortunately.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:02 pm I played bikes today. Just some dirt stuff with a friend at dad pace. Felt good to get out for a bit. The All City is a champ. Most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

A friend and I are thinking of starting up a weekly Tuesday night gravel ride. Not sure. But we'd like to. There's only one gravel ride in Philly now and it apparently kind of sucks. But 30 ish miles and ending at a brewery are a possibility...

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:19 pm Damn 80 psi? I run 60 psi on my 25s.

D Griff wrote:

troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:19 pm Damn 80 psi? I run 60 psi on my 25s.

Tubeless? The one time I went out at sub 75 PSI, I got two pinchflats in the first three miles... I am 180 pounds , so I think a good bit more than you?

D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:44 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:02 pm I played bikes today. Just some dirt stuff with a friend at dad pace. Felt good to get out for a bit. The All City is a champ. Most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

A friend and I are thinking of starting up a weekly Tuesday night gravel ride. Not sure. But we'd like to. There's only one gravel ride in Philly now and it apparently kind of sucks. But 30 ish miles and ending at a brewery are a possibility...

This is the challenge with group riding though, 80% of them are surrounded by alcohol, if you start doing multiple weeknight group rides, next thing you know you're full status. You deserve it and could use it

Curious what a 'gravel ride' in Philly would be like. It's funny, I see people here riding gravel bikes on the road all of the time, but where they actually take them other than slowly on road. I've never seen a gravel bike on any of the hundreds of miles of MTB trails here and there are no gravel roads without driving 45+ minutes. There are some hard packed gravel greenways but a road bike on 25s does fine there and they're paving more and more of it.

I love the idea of gravel riding and am often tempted to get gravel tires on my current wheels and get some wheels for road, but just where I would actually use it living in a city. Other cities may be different

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:15 am

D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:44 am



This is the challenge with group riding though, 80% of them are surrounded by alcohol, if you start doing multiple weeknight group rides, next thing you know you're full status. You deserve it and could use it

Curious what a 'gravel ride' in Philly would be like. It's funny, I see people here riding gravel bikes on the road all of the time, but where they actually take them other than slowly on road. I've never seen a gravel bike on any of the hundreds of miles of MTB trails here and there are no gravel roads without driving 45+ minutes. There are some hard packed gravel greenways but a road bike on 25s does fine there and they're paving more and more of it.

I love the idea of gravel riding and am often tempted to get gravel tires on my current wheels and get some wheels for road, but just where I would actually use it living in a city. Other cities may be different

I don’t think we’d get much participation in the gravel jawn. Maybe 10 people? Probably for the better anyway.

There are lots of trails in Philly that are suitable for a gravel bike, you just need to be willing to ride some kind of shitty sections to get to more fun / fast stuff. There are a couple ways to make a 30 ish mile ride mostly off pavement.

D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:15 am

I don’t think we’d get much participation in the gravel jawn. Maybe 10 people? Probably for the better anyway.

There are lots of trails in Philly that are suitable for a gravel bike, you just need to be willing to ride some kind of shitty sections to get to more fun / fast stuff. There are a couple ways to make a 30 ish mile ride mostly off pavement.

8-12 is the perfect group size anyway, IMO.

You should

If I'm ever in town, I will

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:11 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am

8-12 is the perfect group size anyway, IMO.

You should

If I'm ever in town, I will

We can put on spandex and get lost in the woods together and maybe get drunk

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:56 pm Shit, if you bought a 58…

coogles wrote:

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:56 pm Shit, if you bought a 58…

Being a short bastard makes selling bikes significantly more difficult, I've found.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:50 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:02 pm I played bikes today. Just some dirt stuff with a friend at dad pace. Felt good to get out for a bit. The All City is a champ. Most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

A friend and I are thinking of starting up a weekly Tuesday night gravel ride. Not sure. But we'd like to. There's only one gravel ride in Philly now and it apparently kind of sucks. But 30 ish miles and ending at a brewery are a possibility...

Keep it fun. Set some routes up, change them up weekly, hit some iconic segments, drink beer when done, only rule is don't be a dick. Recipe for success.

You'll also need to get a feel for what others expect out of a gravel ride. Not everyone's down with diving into singletrack on drop bars.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:45 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:44 am



This is the challenge with group riding though, 80% of them are surrounded by alcohol, if you start doing multiple weeknight group rides, next thing you know you're full status. You deserve it and could use it

Curious what a 'gravel ride' in Philly would be like. It's funny, I see people here riding gravel bikes on the road all of the time, but where they actually take them other than slowly on road. I've never seen a gravel bike on any of the hundreds of miles of MTB trails here and there are no gravel roads without driving 45+ minutes. There are some hard packed gravel greenways but a road bike on 25s does fine there and they're paving more and more of it.

I love the idea of gravel riding and am often tempted to get gravel tires on my current wheels and get some wheels for road, but just where I would actually use it living in a city. Other cities may be different

80% are alcohol-based?

...what group rides are you doing?

There's only one group ride I do from time to time that ends at a brewery.

Griff, you'll likely need to travel a bit for quality gravel. How big a tire can you fit on your Sprite Can?

[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:25 pm

D Griff wrote:
most of the rides do seem centralized around drinking during and/or after the ride... hence why I don't do all that many and have just found some good people to ride with from time to time. I'm OK with on most of my rides, it makes me faster when I do find myself in a group setting. There is a ride I just found out about Monday nights that looks to be pretty full send

I'm not sure on the exact tire clearance, but I think plenty at a cursory glance. I just don't see myself sitting in the car for 90 minutes to go ride all that much, I have limited time and I'd rather be spinning than sitting on the freeway.

That said, I think it may be worth it for some bigger events, I would LOVE to do some of the big gravel epics. The one you posted above looks incredible! (other than the :snek: )

Yeah, I’ve been staying closer to home this year aside from a few events here and there.

You’ve got the Endurance frame? Looks like clearance up to 32mm which isn’t all that much for chunkier gravel/singletrack. But you could do some 32 file treads and have fun still.

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troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:35 pm Pfft. Most people are your size, you'll be fine. Only DFD is full of exceptions.

Seems every carbon disc road bike I find for sale is a 54 or 56.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:30 am It’s official we are going to

Should be a 30 miler with some beers at the end. Linking some of the mild trails in Belmont with other fun bonus gravel and cobblestones. I’m gonna lead it apparently Hope they don’t mind dad pace.