IX-Lemon Life.

[wap]

Any of the Lincoln offerings pass muster with you?

[max225]

Any of the Lincoln offerings pass muster with you?

Negative ghostrider.
Absolute nos as a brand:
Lincoln
Cadillac
Buick
Infiniti
Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Dodge
Jaguar

[max225]

See I place a -$10,000 premium on something from Korea over Germany or the US. The GV is out from day 1.

Is this your car or BAEZN's

I’d probably drive it 50% of the time. Anytime we go somewhere I’m driving. So clearly it has to be somewhat more acceptable than a pink Barbie jeep

[max225]

I’m thinking the ID4 makes the most sense … but man it’s just such a boring toaster

[wap]

Any of the Lincoln offerings pass muster with you?

Negative ghostrider.
Absolute nos as a brand:
Lincoln
Cadillac
Buick
Infiniti
Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Dodge
Jaguar

Not the F-Pace either?

[Gberg2119]

I’m thinking the ID4 makes the most sense … but man it’s just such a boring toaster

ID4's are horrific.

[max225]

Negative ghostrider.
Absolute nos as a brand:
Lincoln
Cadillac
Buick
Infiniti
Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Dodge
Jaguar

Not the F-Pace either?

and much rather RR sport Same car

[max225]

I’m thinking the ID4 makes the most sense … but man it’s just such a boring toaster

ID4's are horrific.

Exactly

[CaleDeRoo]

ID4 is about the lamest car IMO.

The owner of the place I work at has an Etron Sport back S, in gray with yellow calipers and it honestly looks really hot.

When they switch the name to Q8 e-tron this year the range is going from 215mi in the current one to 350mi+. Could be a contender if you can wait a few months.

[Gberg2119]

Nissan Leaf

[max225]

ID4 is about the lamest car IMO.

The owner of the place I work at has an Etron Sport back S, in gray with yellow calipers and it honestly looks really hot.

When they switch the name to Q8 e-tron this year the range is going from 215mi in the current one to 350mi+. Could be a contender if you can wait a few months.

350+? That seems like a huge bump in range. There isn't a single VAG product with over 300 miles so that would be interesting to see. Also Q8 based EV must be cresting 100k?

And yes the ID4 is "lame" but it does seem to have high 200s in range and goes 0-60 in sub 6 seconds so it's not like terrible... but clearly not the pick of the litter as far as looks.

[CaleDeRoo]

ID4 is about the lamest car IMO.

The owner of the place I work at has an Etron Sport back S, in gray with yellow calipers and it honestly looks really hot.

When they switch the name to Q8 e-tron this year the range is going from 215mi in the current one to 350mi+. Could be a contender if you can wait a few months.

350+? That seems like a huge bump in range. There isn't a single VAG product with over 300 miles so that would be interesting to see. Also Q8 based EV must be cresting 100k?

And yes the ID4 is "lame" but it does seem to have high 200s in range and goes 0-60 in sub 6 seconds so it's not like terrible... but clearly not the pick of the litter as far as looks.

The current Etron is Q8 based as well and starts at $70k

https://www.motor1.com/news/620739/audi ... debut/amp/

I asked my friend when they are hitting dealers and he just said next year, but nothing specific.

[CaleDeRoo]

ID4 is about the lamest car IMO.

The owner of the place I work at has an Etron Sport back S, in gray with yellow calipers and it honestly looks really hot.

When they switch the name to Q8 e-tron this year the range is going from 215mi in the current one to 350mi+. Could be a contender if you can wait a few months.

350+? That seems like a huge bump in range. There isn't a single VAG product with over 300 miles so that would be interesting to see. Also Q8 based EV must be cresting 100k?

And yes the ID4 is "lame" but it does seem to have high 200s in range and goes 0-60 in sub 6 seconds so it's not like terrible... but clearly not the pick of the litter as far as looks.

The Q4 Etron is on the same platform as the ID4, but has physical buttons and the same virtual cockpit as other Audi models instead of the small tacked on thing the ID4 gets.

[max225]

350+? That seems like a huge bump in range. There isn't a single VAG product with over 300 miles so that would be interesting to see. Also Q8 based EV must be cresting 100k?

And yes the ID4 is "lame" but it does seem to have high 200s in range and goes 0-60 in sub 6 seconds so it's not like terrible... but clearly not the pick of the litter as far as looks.

The Q4 Etron is on the same platform as the ID4, but has physical buttons and the same virtual cockpit as other Audi models instead of the small tacked on thing the ID4 gets.

Yea the Q4 is a huge no from me as it’s just slapping an Audi badge on vw product, really not a fan of that. There is 0 performance benefit also.

[max225]

350+? That seems like a huge bump in range. There isn't a single VAG product with over 300 miles so that would be interesting to see. Also Q8 based EV must be cresting 100k?

And yes the ID4 is "lame" but it does seem to have high 200s in range and goes 0-60 in sub 6 seconds so it's not like terrible... but clearly not the pick of the litter as far as looks.

The current Etron is Q8 based as well and starts at $70k

https://www.motor1.com/news/620739/audi ... debut/amp/

I asked my friend when they are hitting dealers and he just said next year, but nothing specific.

This is quite interesting and a huge 104kw battery also… this is going to be

[MexicanYarisTK]

Have you looked at the Volvo C40, The XC90 also has electric version, but the "price" says reserve yours

[max225]

Have you looked at the Volvo C40, The XC90 also has electric version, but the "price" says reserve yours

Vulva XC90 is 80-100 for the ev.

Apparently 50 is the new 100. woman just about quit when I suggested a Vulva. First question was how much and then it was all said and done

[CaleDeRoo]

Neighbor across the street has the ugly XC40 coupe body style EV

[golftdibrad1]

The woman and I talk about this at least once a week but can't seem to come to a conclusion.

Bro, its her car. She needs to pick it. If your married you get right of refusal on like 1 critical issue (cost, reliability issues, milage).

Everything else is a recipe for disaster.

[max225]

The woman and I talk about this at least once a week but can't seem to come to a conclusion.

Bro, its her car. She needs to pick it. If your married you get right of refusal on like 1 critical issue (cost, reliability issues, milage).

Everything else is a recipe for disaster.

We have a communist marriage. We pick it

[D Griff]

One of my dealers has 114 new ID4s in stock.

Maybe it's a typo?
A friend of mine ordered one in early summer and he's still waiting for it.

My neighbor had an order in and they called him a couple of months back and were like 'we don't have your order but have five on the lot' so he went in and bought one. ID4s are around.

[D Griff]

Any of the Lincoln offerings pass muster with you?

Negative ghostrider.
Absolute nos as a brand:
Lincoln
Cadillac
Buick
Infiniti
Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Dodge
Jaguar

The new Cadi seems like the way to go IMO. That is not much more money than the ID4 and way better.

[max225]

Negative ghostrider.
Absolute nos as a brand:
Lincoln
Cadillac
Buick
Infiniti
Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Dodge
Jaguar

The new Cadi seems like the way to go IMO. That is not much more money than the ID4 and way better.

Yea... it's not bad but its also not available ... also GM has a pretty shitty battery record also. I guess it doesn't matter anyways since there is a warranty for all this.

[max225]

Maybe it's a typo?
A friend of mine ordered one in early summer and he's still waiting for it.

My neighbor had an order in and they called him a couple of months back and were like 'we don't have your order but have five on the lot' so he went in and bought one. ID4s are around.

Seems like the factory in TN is running full steam ahead. They do seem to be heavily favoring the top tier trims around 53k vs the entry level 37k trim... but I'd be looking at the top tier trim either way.

[Desertbreh]

My neighbor had an order in and they called him a couple of months back and were like 'we don't have your order but have five on the lot' so he went in and bought one. ID4s are around.

Seems like the factory in TN is running full steam ahead. They do seem to be heavily favoring the top tier trims around 53k vs the entry level 37k trim... but I'd be looking at the top tier trim either way.

What about the part where looking at an ID4 makes you want to kill yourself?