195 with a 225 OHP would be strong AF, same with your 405 squat. Have you had your body fat percentage tested? There can't be much on you.
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Panda be strong like bull.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:36 pm195 with a 225 OHP would be strong AF, same with your 405 squat. Have you had your body fat percentage tested? There can't be much on you.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:36 pm195 with a 225 OHP would be strong AF, same with your 405 squat. Have you had your body fat percentage tested? There can't be much on you.
Hah, definitely lost some strength when I wasn't pushing things too hard while learning the Oly lifts. That said, I hope to be back there soon! I haven't had it checked before, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, I would venture a guess at a healthy 16-19%. I definitely carry around a bit of fat all over, primarily my abdomen.
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Send noodz and I'll give you a second unprofessional opinion.Jaxper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:58 pmDesertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:36 pm
195 with a 225 OHP would be strong AF, same with your 405 squat. Have you had your body fat percentage tested? There can't be much on you.Hah, definitely lost some strength when I wasn't pushing things too hard while learning the Oly lifts. That said, I hope to be back there soon! I haven't had it checked before, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, I would venture a guess at a healthy 16-19%. I definitely carry around a bit of fat all over, primarily my abdomen.
I wonder what mine is at. A friend measured it for me at 10% a few months ago, but I don't think he was pinching the fat all the way. My guess based on the mirror would be 12-15%
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This fat fuck is putting in gym time. I started a log book before I went to FL for a family trip so I've got a plan moving forward. Hopefully I'll be able to report some decent gains (and losses), at the moment I'm at ground zero.
So, anyone have tips for lifting routines for my gf? Probably 2-3 times per week, maybe three different days or probably ideally just hitting everything in one day. She is pretty active, does cycle classes, runs, etc. but wants to start doing some weight training and is kind of intimidated. where to start for a basic female
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Just hoping she doesn't lift more than me ol:D Griff wrote:So, anyone have tips for lifting routines for my gf? Probably 2-3 times per week, maybe three different days or probably ideally just hitting everything in one day. She is pretty active, does cycle classes, runs, etc. but wants to start doing some weight training and is kind of intimidated. where to start for a basic female
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I'd have her do a three day starting strength routine, then if the idea of going "heavy" for 3x5 or 5x5 is too intimidating you can have her do like 3x10 on the compound lifts, then like a 12-15 rep scheme on the assistance work.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 pm So, anyone have tips for lifting routines for my gf? Probably 2-3 times per week, maybe three different days or probably ideally just hitting everything in one day. She is pretty active, does cycle classes, runs, etc. but wants to start doing some weight training and is kind of intimidated. where to start for a basic female
I was thinking something like that or 5X5. She certainly isn't looking to get huge or super strong, more just general fitness /toning, but to me a basic barbell program is still best.SAWCE wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:56 pmI'd have her do a three day starting strength routine, then if the idea of going "heavy" for 3x5 or 5x5 is too intimidating you can have her do like 3x10 on the compound lifts, then like a 12-15 rep scheme on the assistance work.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 pm So, anyone have tips for lifting routines for my gf? Probably 2-3 times per week, maybe three different days or probably ideally just hitting everything in one day. She is pretty active, does cycle classes, runs, etc. but wants to start doing some weight training and is kind of intimidated. where to start for a basic female
I'd say start her on a trimmed down version of 5/3/1 (starting with an empty barbell, or even dumbbells for the main lifts) with more machine focus on the accessories (to avoid the barbell intimidation that new females tend to have). 5/3/1 hits all the basics without forcing weight increases at the beginning.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 pm So, anyone have tips for lifting routines for my gf? Probably 2-3 times per week, maybe three different days or probably ideally just hitting everything in one day. She is pretty active, does cycle classes, runs, etc. but wants to start doing some weight training and is kind of intimidated. where to start for a basic female
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Yeah that's why I was thinking the 3x10 might be better than 5x5 for her. Follow the 5x5/starting strength 3 day routine, but just change the rep schemes for her. I'd place an emphasis on legs and shoulders first, then back and arms, and chest lastly. Maybe only have her train chest once a week, and try to hit everything else 2-3 times. If she's down to do a good 45 minutes of lifting 3x a week and follow it up with 15 minutes of cardio, she could build just a bit of muscle and burn a little fat to get the toned look she wants.
SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 pmYeah that's why I was thinking the 3x10 might be better than 5x5 for her. Follow the 5x5/starting strength 3 day routine, but just change the rep schemes for her. I'd place an emphasis on legs and shoulders first, then back and arms, and chest lastly. Maybe only have her train chest once a week, and try to hit everything else 2-3 times. If she's down to do a good 45 minutes of lifting 3x a week and follow it up with 15 minutes of cardio, she could build just a bit of muscle and burn a little fat to get the toned look she wants.
This will probably be better. I think the whole AMRAP thing and math part of 531 might be a little much for her for an introduction. Hopefully we can hit the gym this weekend and get something going.
SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 pmYeah that's why I was thinking the 3x10 might be better than 5x5 for her. Follow the 5x5/starting strength 3 day routine, but just change the rep schemes for her. I'd place an emphasis on legs and shoulders first, then back and arms, and chest lastly. Maybe only have her train chest once a week, and try to hit everything else 2-3 times. If she's down to do a good 45 minutes of lifting 3x a week and follow it up with 15 minutes of cardio, she could build just a bit of muscle and burn a little fat to get the toned look she wants.
This will probably be better. I think the whole AMRAP thing and math part of 531 might be a little much for her for an introduction. Hopefully we can hit the gym this weekend and get something going.
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I'm going to start squatting every day as part of my warm up for lifting. Nothing heavy at all. The thing I was reading that was encouraging it was saying to take half of your normal 10 rep weight, and use that as your heaviest set. You do 10 sets total. First four sets are body weight, then I'd do 2x8x95, 2x5x115, and 2x3x135. I figure each month I'll add a little bit of weight, like 5-10lbs. The people that have been doing it say their squat has gotten way better just from all the light weight practice as long as they're making sure they hit those sets with the proper form and mindset that they would a heavy working set.
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Yeah dude. Start with 3 X10. I mean, if she does Squats, is she sore the next day? How sore? You don't want to get into ZOMG I can't fucking move I hate you Dan sore, but sore=progress. Find the right weight and move up slowly at first, then when her muscle groups start getting acclimated, she could try 5/3/1. That's my advice anyway. The first time I did squats I couldn't walk up stairs the next day and I thought "This is great!" The ladies are not always on board with that kind of jumping right in.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:58 pmSAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 pm
Yeah that's why I was thinking the 3x10 might be better than 5x5 for her. Follow the 5x5/starting strength 3 day routine, but just change the rep schemes for her. I'd place an emphasis on legs and shoulders first, then back and arms, and chest lastly. Maybe only have her train chest once a week, and try to hit everything else 2-3 times. If she's down to do a good 45 minutes of lifting 3x a week and follow it up with 15 minutes of cardio, she could build just a bit of muscle and burn a little fat to get the toned look she wants.
This will probably be better. I think the whole AMRAP thing and math part of 531 might be a little much for her for an introduction. Hopefully we can hit the gym this weekend and get something going.
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I'd encourage her to add some extra protein into her diet. Don't have her drink protein shakes if she's not interested in them, but when you guys cook dinner or lunch or whatever, try cooking up just a little more meat and giving her a larger portion than she's used to. It'll be especially good if you can get her to swap a little bit of carbs or fat for an equal amount of protein. The extra protein will mean being less sore, and the reduced carbs or fat will help with weightloss even though she's eating the same number of calories each day.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:15 pmYeah dude. Start with 3 X10. I mean, if she does Squats, is she sore the next day? How sore? You don't want to get into ZOMG I can't fucking move I hate you Dan sore, but sore=progress. Find the right weight and move up slowly at first, then when her muscle groups start getting acclimated, she could try 5/3/1. That's my advice anyway. The first time I did squats I couldn't walk up stairs the next day and I thought "This is great!" The ladies are not always on board with that kind of jumping right in.
I partially agree with this. I'd put legs, shoulders, and back in the top tier - legs for obvious reasons, back and shoulders to support dem boobies) - then arms and chest as secondary.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 pmYeah that's why I was thinking the 3x10 might be better than 5x5 for her. Follow the 5x5/starting strength 3 day routine, but just change the rep schemes for her. I'd place an emphasis on legs and shoulders first, then back and arms, and chest lastly. Maybe only have her train chest once a week, and try to hit everything else 2-3 times. If she's down to do a good 45 minutes of lifting 3x a week and follow it up with 15 minutes of cardio, she could build just a bit of muscle and burn a little fat to get the toned look she wants.
Something like this would work well for a VERY basic structure:
Day 1:
Legs (Squats)
Back (DL or a variant (like straight leg))
Shoulders (DB press)
Day 2:
Chest (Bench/incline)
Back (Rows (barbell or cable))
Arms (Curls, tricep pressdown)
Day 3:
Legs (Split squat or lunges)
Shoulders (All variants of delt flyes)
Back (hamstring curls)
Play around with the lift choices, rep schemes, and add in appropriate accessories.
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I believe Dan-O has this part covered.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:36 pmI'd encourage her to add some extra protein into her diet. Don't have her drink protein shakes if she's not interested in them, but when you guys cook dinner or lunch or whatever, try cooking up just a little more meat and giving her a larger portion than she's used to. It'll be especially good if you can get her to swap a little bit of carbs or fat for an equal amount of protein. The extra protein will mean being less sore, and the reduced carbs or fat will help with weightloss even though she's eating the same number of calories each day.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:15 pm
Yeah dude. Start with 3 X10. I mean, if she does Squats, is she sore the next day? How sore? You don't want to get into ZOMG I can't fucking move I hate you Dan sore, but sore=progress. Find the right weight and move up slowly at first, then when her muscle groups start getting acclimated, she could try 5/3/1. That's my advice anyway. The first time I did squats I couldn't walk up stairs the next day and I thought "This is great!" The ladies are not always on board with that kind of jumping right in.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:57 pmI believe Dan-O has this part covered.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:36 pm
I'd encourage her to add some extra protein into her diet. Don't have her drink protein shakes if she's not interested in them, but when you guys cook dinner or lunch or whatever, try cooking up just a little more meat and giving her a larger portion than she's used to. It'll be especially good if you can get her to swap a little bit of carbs or fat for an equal amount of protein. The extra protein will mean being less sore, and the reduced carbs or fat will help with weightloss even though she's eating the same number of calories each day.
Good advice though, gents. I think she'll like it and I know she wants to like it, so I just want to give her something approachable that she'll stick with instead of rage quitting due to excess or whatever. We'll probably begin with just the bar for squats/bench/rows... not sure if I'm going to advise her to do the dead lift, she's rather against it since I hurt my back.
As for the protein thing... well, we might have to get creative with that. I tend to go heavier on meats when cooking, for example, we make drunken noodles a lot and I normally double the chicken and halve the noodles, so it's mostly chicken and veggies, she's all for the veggies but usually ends up depositing some of the extra chicken on my plate. She's a pretty healthy eater at least though.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:57 pmI believe Dan-O has this part covered.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:36 pm
I'd encourage her to add some extra protein into her diet. Don't have her drink protein shakes if she's not interested in them, but when you guys cook dinner or lunch or whatever, try cooking up just a little more meat and giving her a larger portion than she's used to. It'll be especially good if you can get her to swap a little bit of carbs or fat for an equal amount of protein. The extra protein will mean being less sore, and the reduced carbs or fat will help with weightloss even though she's eating the same number of calories each day.
Good advice though, gents. I think she'll like it and I know she wants to like it, so I just want to give her something approachable that she'll stick with instead of rage quitting due to excess or whatever. We'll probably begin with just the bar for squats/bench/rows... not sure if I'm going to advise her to do the dead lift, she's rather against it since I hurt my back.
As for the protein thing... well, we might have to get creative with that. I tend to go heavier on meats when cooking, for example, we make drunken noodles a lot and I normally double the chicken and halve the noodles, so it's mostly chicken and veggies, she's all for the veggies but usually ends up depositing some of the extra chicken on my plate. She's a pretty healthy eater at least though.