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wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:04 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:54 pm

That would be a total waste of money.

Probably, but friends took their then 20 month old to Greece. He was a good traveler overall, but it was challenging.

If you don't have another option that's fine but your kid really isn't going to get much out of it until they are.....12? Under 2 years means sit on the lap/no airfare/infuriate on his way to Paris with your crotchfruit.

Pressurizing some infants ears who doesn't understand anything is no good for the infant nor your fellow cabinmates. Travel by car or stay home when your child is very young IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:29 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:04 pm

Probably, but friends took their then 20 month old to Greece. He was a good traveler overall, but it was challenging.

If you don't have another option that's fine but your kid really isn't going to get much out of it until they are.....12? Under 2 years means sit on the lap/no airfare/infuriate on his way to Paris with your crotchfruit.

Pressurizing some infants ears who doesn't understand anything is no good for the infant nor your fellow cabinmates. Travel by car or stay home when your child is very young IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

Agreed in general however I'd say a child under 12 can successfully do Europe. I first went when I was 9 and still remember a LOT. My nephew and niece were 4 and 6 when they Europed the first time 8 years ago and they still remember much. I'd say 5-7 is probably an optimal starting age, but of course it would depend on the , too.

Just booked the Wynn for my gf and I's trip to Las Vegas next month .

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:02 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:04 pm

Probably, but friends took their then 20 month old to Greece. He was a good traveler overall, but it was challenging.

He would be fine, but certainly more fun without him for another few years.

For sure.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:03 pm

Then the 2 of you
Where would you want to go?

South of France perhaps?

Nice! Never been myself, 5/7 want to,

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:03 pm

Then the 2 of you
Where would you want to go?

South of France perhaps?

This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:20 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 pm

This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

Interesting. I'd just love to be down around the Mediterranean.

Yeah I'd choose Greece or something personally, would be

Croatia would also be

D Griff wrote:

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm South of France perhaps?

This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

Wife and i did Paris-Cannes-Nice-Monaco when we were dating. It was 5/7, I recommend it

Tarspin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:27 pm

D Griff wrote:
This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

Wife and i did Paris-Cannes-Nice-Monaco when we were dating. It was 5/7, I recommend it

I think we're actually going to end up in Paris on our Europe trip this year.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:27 pm

D Griff wrote:
This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

Wife and i did Paris-Cannes-Nice-Monaco when we were dating. It was 5/7, I recommend it

Which place did you in the most?

D Griff wrote:

Tarspin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:27 pm Wife and i did Paris-Cannes-Nice-Monaco when we were dating. It was 5/7, I recommend it

Which place did you in the most?

Paris had ancient rooms and was a bit stressful at times. Getting away from it was awesome. Stopped along the way and stayed at vineyard b&b's/hotels which offered a nice combo of tranquility and which turned into

The South was also 5/7 as we hopped trains from city to city and stayed a few days in each place to sight see and eat, swim and just chill.

Everywhere had food and people but Menton was best for both in my experience. If i needed to pick one place in France to live that would be it.

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 pm

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm

South of France perhaps?

This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:20 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 pm

This is purely anecdotal, but we met this French family in Hawaii and they said the South of France blows in comparison and never to go

Interesting. I'd just love to be down around the Mediterranean.

Well it entirely depends on what you're looking for. You don't go the Southern Europe for a tropical experience. You go for culture, food, beaches, history, wine, a non-Murican experience.

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:17 pm

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:20 pm

Interesting. I'd just love to be down around the Mediterranean.

Yeah I'd choose Greece or something personally, would be

You'd dig it.

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:53 pm

Tarspin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:27 pm Wife and i did Paris-Cannes-Nice-Monaco when we were dating. It was 5/7, I recommend it

I think we're actually going to end up in Paris on our Europe trip this year.

Paris is 5/7 awesome.

Davestr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 am

Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:50 am On an extended vacation in Qatar. 6 1/2 months living in this country. That will push me to a total of 13 months here in the last 2.5 years

Be safe man!!

Not even worried. its just a crappy vacation.

Barnes93cb wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:20 am

Davestr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 am

Be safe man!!

Not even worried. its just a crappy vacation.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:03 pm

Then the 2 of you
Where would you want to go?

South of France perhaps?

Go to Romania (maybe not the whole trip, but a quick shot there). Bran Castle (Count Dracula), the Transfagarasean road, etc.

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:45 pm

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:54 pm In Turkey, a dinner of 7 in an upscale restaurant is still cheaper than dinner of 3 at tgi fridays and the like in dollars.

And probably 50 times better.

Sounds like Greece actually.

Absolutely, lot cleaner, healthier, less of the corn syrup bullshit. Even the mcdonalds in Turkey and Europe tastes much cleaner too.

razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:03 am

[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:03 pm

South of France perhaps?

Go to Romania (maybe not the whole trip, but a quick shot there). Bran Castle (Count Dracula), the Transfagarasean road, etc.

If I get my own car in Turkey, like a Seat Leon FR or other GTI competitors, I might consider driving up to that road. About a 10 hour drive from Istanbul. Probably venture parts of Bulgaria too.

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:59 pm

wap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:45 pm

And probably 50 times better.

Sounds like Greece actually.

Absolutely, lot cleaner, healthier, less of the corn syrup bullshit. Even the mcdonalds in Turkey and Europe tastes much cleaner too.

No doubt.

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:02 pm

razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:03 am

Go to Romania (maybe not the whole trip, but a quick shot there). Bran Castle (Count Dracula), the Transfagarasean road, etc.

If I get my own car in Turkey, like a Seat Leon FR or other GTI competitors, I might consider driving up to that road. About a 10 hour drive from Istanbul. Probably venture parts of Bulgaria too.

wap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:05 pm

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:02 pm

If I get my own car in Turkey, like a Seat Leon FR or other GTI competitors, I might consider driving up to that road. About a 10 hour drive from Istanbul. Probably venture parts of Bulgaria too.

in a car like this too, 150 hp is enough for east euro roads.
https://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/vasita- ... 5838/detay

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:09 pm

wap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:05 pm

in a car like this too, 150 hp is enough for east euro roads.
https://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/vasita- ... 5838/detay

I like Leons.